For all those with friends and family and Israel...hope your safe

Carry on.

I feel I should tell you, as a recent lurker, that you are damaging any cause you believe you are 'fighting' for on this thread.

I have had a quick look, there are many active threads you could go and rant in (though it looks like only the same few people are listening/responding over and over again anyway).

That you chose this one, titled very clearly, and choose to be disrespectful and derail it speaks volumes.

The optics are... unpleasant.

I always find when someone is trying to defend the indefensible, they resort to snide, personal attacks, which is what's happening here. Trying to drag up my posting history too...all a bit too desperate, guys....

But keep defending Israel here on mn, and ignore any criticism....how you can sleep at night is beyond me.

Hear hear.

Hundreds of threads saying pretty much the same thing. Got fed up and thought you come and upset people on a thread concerning worries for Israelis did you.

@SallyWD that terrorist attack was symbolic. Similar to the attacking of the kibbutzim on Oct 7. They attacked unarmed civilians including that mum and baby in an area of high Jewish/ Arab coexistence. Jaffa is the highest in that area I believe.

They are attempting to kill all possibilities of peaceful coexistence and all potential of peace. This was orchestrated by the Islamic Republic and even though Israel is invested in protecting its citizens this sort of psychological warfare and genocidal terrorism cannot continue.

We all want peace. But this thread was to be solace for those of us with family and friends in Israel.

No, it doesn't offend me that someone posted it. It deeply upsets me, as I'm sure it does all of us.

No, I won't post examples of other atrocities. It's not appropriate and what would it achieve? It will just cause more upset, more hate and more division.

I just want peace.

@ssd that's not what they said and you know it.
Perhaps you could take that thought to one of the numerous threads you start and maintain specifically addressing that? Rather than derail this one as so many of you are.
What made you read and post here in the first place? Is it a siren call?

Seriously, you are asking for examples of Israeli brutality? How long have you got?

@SallyWD Why continue to "both sides" on a thread about Israel and Israelis?

It's what gets so many people riled and drives people off threads

What is the point of this post?

It’s on a thread entitled ‘For all those with friends and family in Israel, hope you’re safe’ regarding Israel being under attack. This was another terrorist attack on Israelis….,,, Does it offend you that someone has posted that an Israeli mother was shoot dead in Israel by Palestinians while shielding her baby?

Yes, please provide examples of Israeli terrorists going on a shooting rampage in a city like Ramallah, shooting a mother shielding her baby dead and 5 other civilians?

Lots of people appear to make countless excuses for terrorists but shooting a mum shielding her baby in a terrorist attack is sick. Its not resistance.

This is awful and utterly heartbreaking but what is the point of this post? Atrocities like this have happened on both sides. I can show you examples of similar things that have happened to Palestinians - but I won't. It serves no purpose. We can only hope for peace in the future.

So much hate on this thread. What hope does the world have if people can't see past their differences and stop taking orders from the people in power that are telling you who to hate. No one is born hating, it's taught. A life is a life and all life is precious, I hope everyone stays safe on all sides and I know it must be a worrying time for so many people with friends and family in all the affected countries.

Could it possibly be that they can't afford it because terrorists are stealing a whole lot of their money and spending it on weapons instead?

Plus, bomb shelters wouldn't be against any resolutions. But Hezbollah would rather start a war and then complain that Israel is deigning to fight back.

@Silence1 no bunkers either or safe rooms? Israel being prepared has saved thousands of lives. Seems you have chosen to ignore the countless other ways countries can protect their civilians and prioritise them?

I don't think picking over 1701 when the crux of it is that ' no armed militias are supposed to operate in the whole of Lebanon' has hardly been stuck to, is going to do any good?

Really? I have seen pro-Israel posters spell it incorrectly too. It’s an unusual word and not everybody is good at spelling. People are more than able to write ‘anti-Israel’ comments without resorting to intentional spelling mistakes.

Lebanon couldn't afford the air defence system Israel has regardless of what Hezbollah is or isn't up to.

Plus I am fairly sure Lebanon is not allowed an air defence system like Israel has and I think it is linked to the UN resolution 1701 which Israel is supposed to adhere to "Any crossing into Lebanon is in violation of Lebanese sovereignty and territorial integrity, and a violation of resolution 1701."

I have a dear friend in Israel with her three girls. It is so scary. Her and her girls are incredibly brave. I don't think I'd be as brave as she is.

@HelenHen one minute it's policing the thread then it's what about, what about, what about.

If you have something else you wish to discuss you can always start your own thread rather than dominate this one whose thread title is quite explicit.

I mean it's a spelling I see often on these boards and I generally assume that it's done as a passive aggressive statement to suggest Israel should not be a recognised country....

But I appreciate your explanation and apology

Pretty sure I did intifada wrong too but these things happen.

I would love nothing more than peace on this thread (and elsewhere ofc).

Ah ok, it happens to everyone don't worry.