Israel invades Lebanon

Ok.

I'm surprised it needs explaining to you too.

I saw an interview with a man who had had to pull relatives' bodies out of the rubble of one of the bombed buildings in Beirut. He said he had never supported Hezbollah and the rocket attacks on Israel but now he does. It's radicalising a whole new generation.

@Lalaloveya, have you seen the 7/10 film?

Have you seen the brutality from Hamas?

Yes, it's wrong to invade a sovereign country and ignore international law. It's wrong to commit war crimes and kill tens of thousands of people. I'm surprised this needs explaining.

"Then the Middle East can have peace."

Oh, please. You haven't a fucking clue.

Do you think that Israel's actions are wrong?

Do you think Israel should sit back and shrug it's shoulders?

OK!

Good job that's not a thing.

It'll be a bit hard for them to just 'get on with their lives' when their vital infrastructure, homes, schools, work, places of worship, medical centres are all rubble. It's easy to say war is over time to get on with your life when your life isn't destroyed.

Please let's not go down the route of criticising someone's religion. It's really unhelpful and unfair.

Israel has every right to defend its land and people. As always in war, there will be innocents killed. Terrorists need to be destroyed, so that peace loving people can get on with their lives.

What alternative does Israel have when more than 8000 rockets have been fired by Hezbollah into Israel since October 7. There are more than 60000 families displaced within Israel from the North who are unable to return to their homes. Do they also not deserve the right to live in peace and safety. What about the Druze children who were murdered by a Hezbollah rocket from Lebanon running to the bomb shelter whilst innocently playing football.

Why do they not the right to defend themselves against a terrorist organisation who have hundreds of kilometres of tunnels extending into Israeli territory.

I feel very sorry for all the innocents caught up in this war but there needs to be balance. Hezbollah are not Lebanese. They do not represent the Lebanese people. They should not be in Lebanon.

No.

That's not right.

It is a religious war.

It is.

I see you're doubling down on your anti-Semitism. Interesting strategy.

Did you know the al-Aqsa mosque is built on the site of two former Jewish temples? The implication being that Jews are, in fact, indigenous to the area and therefore not colonisers. Did you know there is a synagogue in Gaza that is a few hundred years old? Because Jewish people are indigenous to the area.

Please stop with your racist rhetoric, it's very much not helping to further your cause.

Just to be clear - I'm not suggesting Jewish people should reclaim Gaza. I'm just pointing out the obvious flaws in this person's thinking.

I don't think any Jewish Israelis are white.

They're Levantine.

They're as white as any Arab from the Middle-East.

Then if they have a casus belli Israel should make a formal declaration of War on the Lebanese State, and then proceed with that under internationally agreed law.

Lebanon has been pummelling Israel with bombs and missiles for months. What do you fucking expect them to do?

Surely you can see that they're implying all Jewish Israelis are white? That's racism, in this case anti-Semitism as those being targeted by the racist comment are Jewish.

It's not antisemitism, it's just ignorance. The conflict is about power, land and resources, just like most others in the world. Judaism and Islam have been dragged into it because those are the faiths of the protagonists.

Yes. Maybe.

Ugh.

You're probably right though.

I don't think it's anti semitism, very much a lot of chronically online people who just consume what's fed to them with little understanding of what's going on though.

No. Have you seen the 7/10 documentary?

The Hamas terrorists that performed such atrocities don't care about their civilians. They don't care about people.

They just want to kill Israelis.

And they use their own 'people' as collateral damage.

So Israel can't step back because there is no 'stepping back' for Hamas or Hezbollah.

https://nypost.com/2024/05/06/world-news/hamas-changed-ceasefire-deal-to-count-dead-hostages-report/

This is not where I saw it originally, and this is not a publication I normally read, but it was to do with the proposed ceasefire back in May as indicated in this article. I originally saw it on Times of Israel I think, but don't know how to find old articles without scrolling through every single one! I'm not the kind of person who saves these kinds of links for future use. It was also shared on at least one of the many, many threads on this board at the time but again couldn't tell you which one. Maybe someone else reading this will remember what I'm talking about and be able to share a more appropriate link than NY Post.