Israel invades Lebanon

We've all seen what happens after the IDF claims there to be a "command and control centre" in hospitals in Gaza and now it seems history is repeating itself in Lebanon.

https://news.sky.com/video/inside-beirut-hospital-at-the-centre-of-allegations-13238957

@EasterIssland it's so predictable isn't it. Recycle the same excuses to carry out abhorrent war crimes of targeting ambulances, hospitals and medical staff.

I’ve seen this threat before. They’re preparing themselves to kill innocent civilians that are working. I’m sure once a few innocent doctors have been killed they’ll start looking at “how could that have happened”

bbc

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) has reiterated claims that Hezbollah is using ambulances to move fighters and weapons in southern Lebanon, in a warning to medical teams in the area.
An Israeli military spokesman says the army will continue to target any vehicle believed to be transporting Hezbollah members "regardless of its type".
"We call on medical teams to avoid dealing with Hezbollah members and not to co-operate with them," IDF spokesperson Avichay Adraee says in a post on X.
Since escalating its offensive against Hezbollah last month, the Israeli military has been hitting search-and-rescue teams, medical centres and hospitals across Lebanon, resulting in the deaths and injuries of dozens of medics and emergency workers.

Yes looking into it and nothing further is ever heard about it

"We're looking into it" is their stock answer when they know damn well that what they chose to do (and yes it's a choice), looks like another big fuck up. I think it was very much deliberate.

BBC

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) says it is looking into a strike in northern Lebanon yesterday that killed at least 21 people, according to the Lebanese health ministry.
The strike hit a residential building in Aitou, a predominantly Christian village far from the areas where the Israeli military has carried out thousands of strikes targeting the armed Shia Islamist group Hezbollah.
In response to the incident, the IDF says that the target belonged to Hezbollah.
"The claim that Lebanese civilians were killed as a result of the strike is under review. The incident is being examined," IDF adds.

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opps we did it again, mistake number 1234556789

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/14/israeli-airstrike-kills-christian-town-northern-lebanon-gaza

This is not self-defence.

Have any of you pro Hamas been to Israel?
Who are the pro Hamas posters you're directing this question to?

And burning people alive, patients who were still on IV drips.

protecting their citizens in which ever way is needed.

commiting war crimes and breaking international law

And what about the innocent civilians that are being burnt alive as we speak in Gaza? Do they not matter?

One day in October is the reason Israel are standing up for themselves, protecting their citizens in which ever way is needed.

Yes it expect Israel will use starvation as a tactic like they are in Gaza. A war crime obviously but hey ho international law doesn't seem to apply to Israel.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/13/lebanon-hunger-starvation-malnutrition-israel-attacks

Honestly I can't believe what I am reading: napalm the Irish peacekeepers, inadequate warnings for civilians etc It is unreal to add to that we have already witnessed.

The other thing that stands out are the Israeli surveillance drones. The various newscasters mention them at bomb sites and I heard someone say don't strike them you 'll become a target. ( I know they are in Gaza too just being made more aware by the Lebanon reporting)
Imagine being a totally innocent civilian - your house and belongings blown to bits by some Israeli who is safe high in the sky. Then whilst you might be rescuing or retrieving body parts of your loved ones, some spotty Israeli tech nerd is watching you.
It's sick and I don't think drone operators will be remembered as "soldiers". They must have a special kind of mentality.

I imagine if you wish to defeat a terrorist organisation then you need to hit hard. They don't learn that if they attack Israel then Israel will hit them back hard.

Perhaps they could concentrate on improving the conditions in Lebanon rather than starting a war against another country. But then they do what the paymaster Iran tells them to do, like good little terrorist proxies.

Doesn't look proportionate to me

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/11/un-peacekeepers-in-lebanon-report-blasts-at-hq-for-second-day-running

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/10/lebanon-israels-evacuation-warnings-for-civilians-misleading-and-inadequate/

Haaretz:

ISRAEL-LEBANON: Lebanese caretaker PM Najib Mikati said that Hezbollah agrees to implement UN Security Council Resolution 1701, which mandates the withdrawal of its forces from southern Lebanon. Mikati added that Lebanon will ask the UN Security Council for a resolution calling for a cease-fire with Israel, and that he has discussed efforts for a truce with U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken.

It would be void if this could take effect. I am ignorant regarding general respect for Mikati - will this be listened to?

Indeed it's awful.

It's perfectly feasible and so it's quite reasonable to suppose that Hezbollah were in the stages of planning for a large scale terror attack.

It's perfectly feasible and also quite reasonable to suppose that The Israelis are putting about a false story to further justify their actions.

Until I get more evidence, I'm probably 50/50 on this.

What's also interesting is the shelling of a UNIFIL site.

The following is from Euronews.

"The UNIFIL headquarters and two Italian bases were struck "repeatedly" and "deliberately" by the Israeli army on Thursday morning."

Crosetto also specified that there were no injuries amongst the Italian peacekeepers, but that what happened in Lebanon was "totally unacceptable."
He went on to say that "There is no justification for saying that the Israeli armed forced had warned UNIFIL that some of the bases had to be left."

From that, I surmise the story is this.

1 - Israel asks for the bases to be vacated.
2 - Unifil Italians say "No, thank you"
3- Israel says "Go or we fire."
4 - Unifil Italians say "No"
5 - Israel fires a couple of warning shots to show they are being serious.
6 - ?

Anyone want to have a go at predicting 6, 7,and 8 ?