Pagers and walkie talkies .....audacious and successful strike against terrorists

Ronen Bergman, an Israeli investigative journalist with the New York Times. He makes the claim that a young intelligence operative thought it was a good idea so believes they did it.

You don't know that, it could very well be in motion well before October the 7th. A sophisticated supply chain terror attack like that wouldn't have been planned and executed in such a short time.

Thanks for the link. Interesting with lots of speculation which occurs when they really aren't sure. Apparently the capability has always been there but not used.

This is in your link as you mentioned above about 2018

In 2018, Bergman says, a young intelligence officer found out that Hezbollah had started using pagers and came up with the idea of Mossad infiltrating their supply chain. Some 4,500 booby-trapped devices were then supplied to Hezbollah, Bergman adds.

What a goady post. Another Israeli apologist. Both side are terrorists.

I’m puzzled as well. It was “the briefing bbc ” by David Aaronovitch 23 hours ago- the page was still open on my phone or I wouldn’t have found it, again. It seems to rely on the Economist’s defence editor’s sources.
Algorithms are so strange
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y8gv1d8j8o

Interestingly, I've googled your claim both with and without BBC included and cannot find any suggestion anywhere that these attacks were planned before 7th October.

That's a pretty strong claim to make. Care to share the link or where you think you saw this?

Ah thanks. The other pp shared a claim without link and your link came straight afterwards, also the BBC.

Hopefully other poster will share link for that claim then

I don't know if the PP might have a different source or report - I was just sharing a different link for information.

The BBC story says nothing of the sort.

It has attempted to track where the pagers and walkie talkies came from and speculates on what might have happened.

They also suggest "Citing US officials, the New York Times said that the pagers received messages that appeared to be coming from Hezbollah's leadership before detonating. The messages instead appeared to trigger the devices, the outlet reported." So the person owning the pagers thought a message from hezbollah leadership was coming through 🤔 then looked at the message detonating the device.

It doesn't say that in the BBC story? So where does it say pager attacks were planned from 2018?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0e1wpr0q44o

Do you have a link?

So now we see from the BBC that these pager attacks were planned from 2018, long before the 7/10 attacks were carried out.
The BBC says that family members would often not be aware that the person with the pager was in Hezbolleh. Visitors to those injured were tracked to guide the strikes that followed

in this instance Israel were not the aggressors

seriously? How can you ignore the daily attacks on Palestinian civilians in their homes by settlers? How can you ignore the stealing of their land to put yet more setters on? You cannot pretend the Israeli Government had the population living peacefully until the festival attack?
One life is not more important than another here.

Terrorists set out to purposely kill, as at the kibbutz or festival

Or by attacking a playground, school, maternity hospital or general hospital. Or shooting people when they rush to get to the aid trucks. Or denying the people essential clean water, food, medical aid or vaccines. Or shunting people into ghettoes having expelled them from their homes and then bombing the area. That is terrorism. Mass murder. Indiscriminate slaying.
Never can this be justified. Never.

Yeah that’s really difficult to understand.
I grew up in leafy Surrey which is quite near France so have quiet a good understanding about neighbourly conflicts, but I try to get on with the French and si do eat French cheese sometimes too.

I wonder how long it will take them to get around to 'investigating' it? Given that 69% of Palestinian children placed in military detention by Israel report being the victims of sexual violence and abuse I'd imagine they have quite the back log of 'mistakes' to get through.

It's a good job that Israel has such a peace loving ideology or who knows what might happen to children in their care, perhaps children might be kept in cages like animals, oh wait that happened already. Maybe most Palestinian children in their care would report appalling physical and emotional abuse, with 86% being physically beaten, oh wait...it's probably all just a big mistake though, definitely not a systemic problem arising from years of brutal occupation and dehumanisation.

On a wholly unrelated note why do we think Palestinian children grow up disliking Israel?

Coco1379 Israel is not a terrorist state. It is a democracy unlike most other middle eastern countries. HTH.

It’s a mistake that shouldn’t have happened and that we will investigate.

by those that make loads of mistakes also known as IDF.

It’s not a rape. It’s an accidental rape I believe😏

Yes that's why they drew up the rules in the aftermath of ww2 to try and prevent it happening again.

@mids2019
I don't think Israel actually wishes to occupy anywhere, they do wish it's people do be secure though.

You are right. They don't want to occupy it, they want to drive Palestinians out and claim it as their own, that's what the ever increasing settlements are all about. I'm not sure that ethnic cleansing is better than occupation though?

I’m glad both have been asked to stop (not that it’ll matter) rather than encouraging them to cause destruction and kill innocent civilians

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gd393llg7o

"It cannot be overstated enough: there is NO military solution that will make either side safer," she posted on Sunday.

@StoneofDestiny

"and Israeli soldiers reported doing the same"

Indeed. Those same soldiers praised and supported by actual Knesset ministers no less, and caused a riot when police dared to arrest them.

Here's the masked rapist allegedly being blessed by a rabbi. Hebrew speakers are welcome to counter this or translate.

x.com/suppressednws/status/1832464903979876627?s=46&t=tm415yZZZz0e-dE263leqA