Pagers and walkie talkies .....audacious and successful strike against terrorists

Dr. Mark Perlmutter, an orthopedic surgeon from North Carolina, volunteered in Gaza for several weeks and said the level of "carnage" he saw against civilians, particularly children, was worse than anything he had seen in his 40 mission trips and 30 years of experience. He described seeing "more incinerated children" and "more shredded children" than he had ever seen in his life. He said children were being shot by snipers, with "dead-center shots" to the chest and head, which he said could not have been accidental.
Other American doctors who volunteered in Gaza corroborated Dr. Perlmutter's accounts, describing the situation as a "catastrophe", a "nightmare", and a "hell on Earth". They reported seeing many children with gunshot wounds, including single gunshot wounds to the head on a daily basis. One American doctor said he "didn't believe that this many children could be admitted to a single hospital with gunshot wounds to the head", but confirmed the injuries after reviewing CT scans. Dr. Perlmutter also described the lack of access to food and medical care in Gaza, saying "all" of the children are in danger of starvation.
Here is Dr Perlmutter being interviewed

So tired of this denial of the obvious, over and over

The "we" in the first statement says a lot, too.

Just a bit of an oopsie. Alternatively, "of course that didn't happen, no reasonable person would do that (cough, don't talk about the survivors or the video footage, cough)."

How kind of them to send them to a designated safe zone

"Oh no. Our highly trained snipers and soldiers accidentally shot children in the head again. How embarrassing. I'm sure it's saved lives somehow though. Now, let's not talk about it or mention it anymore."

And her friend

Remember the little girl a few months back calling for an ambulance trapped in a car with her whole family killed by the ODF while trying to flee to safety? Was she saved? No she was not. IDF killed both her and the ambulance coming to save her…..

Herd the population into a safe zone, and then drop a 2,000lb bomb on it.

Nothing to see here apparently.

You’re not saving Palestinian children’s lives. According to UN more children have been killed in Gaza than adults.

they are not deliberately. They’re by mistake killing them. Loads of mistakes and lots of “we are sorry we killed x or threw them down the roofs”

Shooting children in the head, bombing them, leaving them permanently disabled, burying them under rubble, etc is clearly all for their own good.

As for not deliberately targeting civilians, the only way anyone could genuinely believe that at this point must be if they're on some impressive drugs.

"Israel aren't delberately targeting civilians"

Dozens of American and British doctors on return from Gaza have publicly said Israel is deliberately shooting babies and toddlers. Not just directly to the chest, but also to the temple for good measure.

45 US doctors wrote to congress about it.

www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/07/19/gaza-hospitals-surgeons-00167697

Of course they don't care, no more than Israel care. Yet 2 are designated terrorist organisations that no one on this thread is supporting but some how some people on this thread aren't ashamed to support a country who are acting in the very same reckless manner as designated terrorist organisations. Instead they call it 'audacious and successful'.

You know that you wouldn't be OK with 1000s of tiny bombs going off in Israel causing widespread terror against Israelis. You know wouldn't be OK with posters on this thread calling an attack against IDF members that killed Israeli children and terrified Israeli mothers 'audacious and successful'.

You are transparent in your 'Israel above all else' thinking. You won't change your mind, no matter how many children are slain by Israel or the method used to slay them so long as Israel say they are justified.

@TheOliveGoose that already happens through suicide bombings and rocket fire. It's horrendous.

Someone asked what I wanted? I know I come across as hawkish but I want peace. Same as everyone. I want a two state solution, recognition of Israel's right to exist, I want new leadership for all (because they're all shit men with little cocks and big guns) and all children to be safe and not raised among a cycle of fear and violence. I just don't know how to get there.

If people think it's unpleasant enough to have to see these images with all the trigger warnings and pixelation in place to protect from the worst of it, spare a thought for those of us who see these things first-hand, and who know that there are people out there who want that for us and our loved ones.

As if the bus wasn't enough, here's the latest school.

More toddlers and children.

x.com/doubledownnews/status/1837474688680825188?s=46&t=tm415yZZZz0e-dE263leqA

Warning: horrific.

And how would you feel if the PA blew up IDF devices and killed Israeli children, caused terror in supermarkets and on buses across Israel. Would you say 'How have we got to the place where striking against an occupying army who enforce apartheid is somehow described as terrorism' or would you be baying for the blood of those responsible for killing Israeli children?

Israel had no idea where the pagers were when they decided to detonate them. Setting off 1000s of small bombs across a country when you have no idea of their location is reckless in the extreme. You would agree if it were 1000s of small bombs being set off around Israel, you know that you would. You don't believe that is ok to detonate 1000s of bombs in unknown locations, you just believe it ok to 'protect' Israel at any cost.

yes, that is ALSO terrorism

Oh, and not everyone holding a pager was a Hezbollah fighter. Not everyone next to one was. Nor was everyone who was affected by the resulting car crashes, fires, etc.

When the pagers detonated, people were going about their daily lives, and they didn't just all fall down by themselves without causing any ill effects around them.

The problem with booby traps like this is that there's no actual control over where they detonate and who is hurt. It's possible to predict some likely scenarios, but not sufficiently to mean it isn't a breach of international law to use this sort of attack. This was terrorism.

Horrific 💔

Please, watch the video in the link above. Please, tell me which of those dead children were terrorists.

Those children are loved. Just like mine. Just like yours.

Why do those children, and mine, matter less? Is it the colour of their skin, the faith they've been born into, their nationality? What?

What is it about those children that means they can be killed in violations of international law with no consequences for the people responsible?

Op I agree with you in the main - this was very smart thinking - taking out most of your enemies without the terrible loss of innocent life as in Gaza and yes Israel too. And instilling the fear of what’s next in the terrorists heads. My sympathies lie with all the civilians in all countries in this conflict. I lay the blame and reserve my anger for the patriarchal dick waving male leaders on all sides of the conflict.

it does worry me slightly though that now this idea is out in the open people like Putin and other dictators/billionaires etc may get power crazed idea

The same kind of reporting is engaged by Hamas who never identify his many Hamas fighters are killed when there is an Israeli strike only civilian deaths. All those deaths can't be civilian as we know there are thousands of Hamas fighters operating in Gaza.

So if the Israeli government feel this is the case why don't they let any independent observers and reporters in?
Think I know the answer to that though