Has enough been done to tackle incitement to genocide?

That’s all you got out of my post? Expand your tunnel vision.

Re what Israel did in Gaza is not “carpet bombing”

One of ways of attacking which has supplanted that is by drone, so as to make it safer for soldiers.

This is a 2013 article about Col. Wilkerson USA questioning their use and questioning its legality.
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/may/04/drone-death-us-moral-compass

The drone operators have ‘information’ (AI very often) that some (?) or one terrorists are in a building, so bomb that area and its vicinity regardless of the number of civilians there. It is very destructive and disproportionate as we have seen.

This article is about Israel bombing immediately following the Hamas Oct 7 attack. You get a picture of the extraordinary intensity of the attacks.

These pilots have hardly slept for five weeks. They speak of the most powerful and wide-ranging strikes in Gaza they’ve ever made. This was from Nov 23
https://mishpacha.com/drone-strike/
Mispacha is an Israeli magazine and fully supportive of Israel’s approach. This is a description of how the drone operators did not sleep for days as they had to bomb so constantly using what appears to be an AI system within the drones to detect terrorists ( there have been some other reports about the faults with AI on this).

Appriciate your post.

Indeed, Gaza is a mass genocidal grave.

Just want to point to something with regards to this "Netanyahu, to his own peril, had established trust in Hamas.".

I'm not sure that's a fair assessment. Netanyahu actively propped up Hamas, in order to destablise the Palestinian Authority, and therefore ensure a two-state solution could never happen. That's been widely reported, but this from 8/20/23 is a fair assessment:

www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

For years, the various governments led by Benjamin Netanyahu took an approach that divided power between the Gaza Strip and the West Bank — bringing Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to his knees while making moves that propped up the Hamas terror group.

The idea was to prevent Abbas — or anyone else in the Palestinian Authority’s West Bank government — from advancing toward the establishment of a Palestinian state.

Thus, amid this bid to impair Abbas, Hamas was upgraded from a mere terror group to an organization with which Israel held indirect negotiations via Egypt, and one that was allowed to receive infusions of cash from abroad.

What Bibi defenders?

I hope those defenders of Bibi don’t seriously think that people like me- staunch defenders of the Palestinian people in Gaza and the West Bank, who are presently and undeniably under untenable, existential assault- are Hamas supporters or apologists and deniers of Israel’s trauma.

I would never wipe the October 7th tragedy from Israel’s collective conscience or my own. On the contrary, I hold space for tragedy on both sides, like the majority of people.

I completely understand that the protection of living in a Jewish state, created by a vital need for protection from historical and present day global persecution, has been shaken and violated innumerable times. October 7th is, yet again, one of those terrible days. That said, one of my two shared primary thoughts on October 7th was for the Palestinian people in Gaza; that Hamas’ assault on Israeli people would surely render the Palestinians ‘fish in a barrel.’ Israel’s retaliation was sure to be fierce. I felt very, very frightened for the Palestinian people as much as I did for the Israeli people. But I knew that the Palestinian people of Gaza would be made a collective example of by Israel. Terrible and unforgivable and unforgettable on Bibi’s part. Criminal. Who he is and what he does is criminal. But it doesn’t start and end with Bibi.

Netanyahu, to his own peril, had established trust in Hamas. Security was lax. He had been lulled into a false sense of security by Hamas. Israel’s retaliation was, I suppose, always going to be disproportionate and extreme. He’d been foolish and been made a fool of by Hamas, Netanyahu.

The price has been paid by ordinary people going about their lives on both sides. And isn’t that the fucking tragedy of it all? Who gets nailed to the cross? We do. The average person, just fucking around for a few years here on earth, trying to be happy with the time and place we were airdropped into by the Human Distribution System. We’re at the mercy of these psychopathic fuckos running things. They divide us. They conquer us. It takes courage to rise above the rhetoric, the division, and the hate. If any of you get to that enlightened place, please, screenshot and share that map. Spoiler alert: This and a two state solution will never happen.
It’s our tragedy. This is everyone’s tragedy.

Gaza has become a mass grave.
There is nothing, not one element in any language, that can truthfully describe, support, or justify what is happening to the Palestinian people in Gaza and the West Bank. We are at the nadir of humanity.
Now what?

Its not at that scale of deaths as yeman and dafur but still awful

This is not true. The conflict in Yemen is truly awful but to say its not at the same scale is incorrect. It's actually much much worse. If you look at the percentage of deaths over such a short time in Gaza, compared to the other conflicts you mentioned, The scaled of deaths is alot worse. This type of Israeli bombing campaign has been unseen since WWII.
And that's not even taking the siege and withholding of essential life saving equipment into account.

@let ........

People have work to do and not hours on here competing with who cares the most. Maybe write your MP, online petition, likely to do more use that criticism of people on a chatting site.

There are no words that are adequate to describe the extent of the bombing. I can't believe it's being described as 'hyperbole'. These people really have no idea, or worse, they do but still deny it.

This thread has disappeared from my app - anyone else experience this?

Its an awful conflict, all conflicts are awful. Yeman was awful. Dafur was awful. Its not at that scale of deaths as yeman and dafur but still awful and far too many innocents have died.. What are we supposed to say. Nothing much makes hamas release hostages and lay down their arms. Sinwar probably sleeps well at night, he doesn't care, if he did, he'd tell hamas to surrender. Usually the losing side in a conflict considers its people and surrenders rather than continue.

It needs an urgent ceasefire and hostage release but threads on here won't make that happen. Around and around and around

And sadly some have lost their lives to it.

Shakes my head in disgust. ^
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Honestly as you said people who support Israel will be wilfully blind to it. They will only see what they want to see. They can ignore and deny it all they want but the facts are there for the world to see.

Even the released hostages talk about their fears of being killed by the 'endless bombing'

It's always minimise, minimise, minimise. Except those with even the tiniest of knowledge on the extent of the bombing, would be horrified.

So we can just play around with semantics as some phrases describing the bombing makes some users feel uncomfortable.

Sorry, you think 80,000 tons of bombs, on an area 1/4 the size of London, is not carpet bombing?

www.newsweek.com/gaza-strip-size-compared-world-cities-maps-1835267

"Some military strategists characterize “carpet bombing” as an emotional term that does not describe any actual military strategy."

For those in doubt. Plenty of information available but those who continue to defend Israel's war crimes will be blind to it.

By late April 2024 it was estimated that Israel had dropped over 70,000 tons of bombs over Gaza, surpassing the bombing of Dresden, Hamburg, and London combined during World War II.[4][5]

I think it's you that needs to look it up.

I agree. Hamas do what they want and sit back after f ing over their own people deliberately.

This.
To those with an ounce of sense I recommend looking up what carpet bombing is. This sort of hyperbole is so silly.

No you can't do this. Population density is no excuse for hiding out in hospitals & schools. The tunnels are a deliberate strategy and a choice. You say you are not defending Hamas, but this is not acceptable.

I'm saying no such thing.

Where we differ is when you say "reasonably".

Carpet bombing Gaza with 80,000 tons of bombs, on an occupied civilian population with nowhere to go, might seem "reasonable" to you, but not to me.

The differences:
a) The IRA did not send a large group of terrorists into England to (rape and) murder over 1200 people in the space of a few hours
b) The IRA did not abduct over 250 people, including children and the very elderly
c) The IRA did not form the government of Ireland.

But of course if you don’t think what I said is true, that means you think that Hamas could commit their acts of rape, mass murder and abduction with impunity, in the belief that Israel could not reasonably respond militarily because civilians would necessarily be involved. How contemptible would that make Hamas?

You think?

Then you might think that the British Government would have been justified in carpet bombing West Belfast, Derry, and most of Down, Tyrone and Fermanagh.

After all the IRA was "hiding", sorry living in those areas.

And the Americans would have stood by and watched. And sold the British the bombs to do the job.

I doubt it.