Has enough been done to tackle incitement to genocide?

Support for occupation appears a mainstream viewpoint
I think some people are in denial with how mainstream the viewpoint is and who are currently most at risk of genocide

I didn't misunderstand you at all. I was pointing out that several parties in this conflict have genocidal intent, a point which is repeatedly overlooked.

Yes, of course a cessefire is essential. Both sides need to agree to one. Hamas has to release the hostages as the murders of 7 October & taking of the hostages precipitated this particular cycle of violence.

I have already said both sides need to do more.

People vote, not buildings. Surely Palestinians have some say in their government now?

You asked a question you got an answer. My answer was reasonable pointing out how countries are supporting Israel to help combat Hamas genocidal rhetoric.

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Maybe next time list the posters you want to respond to your questions to prevent any further unsolicited responses 🙄

I will once again ask you to point out where I said it was unfair Israel were receiving funding and arms for defence against Hamas?

Are you really "lame enough", then, to think that Hamas and Hezbollah are just joking when they talk openly and repeatedly of their aim to annihilate Israel completely?
How about the approx 800,000 Jews expelled from Arab countries? The ones whose homes and possessions were confiscated? Or do their wrongs not count? Look up the number of Jews there used to be in Arab countries such as Iraq, Jews whose families had lived there for centuries. Then look up how many live there now, compared to the 20% of Israeli citizens who are Arabs. Then you might understand why allegations of Israeli "apartheid" are so ridiculous.

History is jam-packed with people who have sadly been defeated or uprooted in wars and had to start afresh elsewhere (like all the homeless, stateless refugees after WW2). Only the Palestinians, the vast majority of whom have never lived in what is now Israel, are determined to be perpetual victims and "refugees".

I asked a question, not for unsolicited opinions.

All of that is both terrifying and depressing.

Answer: No.

Your answer: But Israel get funding and arms.

Also this isn't an exam there is no right or wrong answers there's opinions.

The Palestinians that were ethnically cleansed in 1948 and their property stolen have still not been compensated to date. Lebanon won a case against Israel and were awarded £850 million, still not paid
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-30559670
As you said Israel currently occupies the sovereign territory of other countries.
So I fully agree that the likelihood of this occurring is minimal.

Why ask the question if you already have your answer?
My response was to point out that Israel are being supported to defend against Hamas and Hamas are not being funded by any western democratic nation so in other words are doing something to tackle the genocide being preached by Hamas. Without the intervention and support by democratic Western nations the preaching could become doing.

I have no idea why you take such an issue with that response and I ask again could you point out where I said it was unfair Israel were receiving funding and arms for defence against Hamas? You are assuming things that aren't there to paint me in a negative light.

Are there any other countries that are in repeated, serious breach of International law, who use their weapons to allow them to breach International law and who have as you have admitted extremists with genocidal intent against the people who according to the ICJ they have been systematically discriminating against, stealing from and denying their basic human rights to for decades that you think the West should arm or is it just Israel?

@SharonEllis What do I think would happen if Israel stopped being defended? I guess the Israeli government would have to reconcile with their neighbours, give back the land they've taken from the Syrians and the Lebanese, and have a serious stab at making right all the wrongs they've done to the Palestinians. But I'm not lame enough to think that will happen.

I asked: Has enough been done by anyone at all to tackle the incitement to genocide constantly preached by Hamas who've dragged the Palestinians and Israelis into this nightmare?

Answer: No.

Your answer: But Israel get funding and arms.

You've misunderstood what I meant. The ICC is currently investigating Israel for genocide. Of course providing aid would alleviate the suffering of Palestinians, that's what the thread is about. What would alleviate it more is a ceasefire.

Do you think Israel has done enough to mitigate genocidal intent and if not, what do you think they should be doing?

I agree that Palestine needs elections and a new government. That's obviously a long way off because most of Gaza is rubble.

There is clear official genocidal intent on the part of Hamas & appeared to be widespread support for their genocidal mission on 7 October. The only thing stopping them is that Iran isnt helping them to perpetrate a genocide, and is being relatively restrained. So to keep it that way and prevent genocide the West must support Israel. There is clearly genocidal intent among some extremists in Israel but no evidence for that being widespread in Israel. A new government in Israel would help. Hamas must release the hostages and its allies in the ME rein them in and facilitate a transfer of power to a more reasonable less genocidal government. Its often said on these threads that the Palestinian people are not supporters of Hamas - the international community needs to help them vote for a non-genocidal government. Its obviously essential that aid, food medicine gets in to gaza to relieve the terrible suffering of the Palestinian civilians. Those things would be a good start, no?

Not every single member of a population has to be dead for it to be a genocide. Look it up.

Ffs you are completely twisting my initial response to you to make an argument where there's none to be had.

You asked
Has enough been done by anyone at all to tackle the incitement to genocide constantly preached by Hamas who've dragged the Palestinians and Israelis into this nightmare?
I responded with what the international community are doing to support Israel and how they are in absolutely no way supporting Hamas.

rather than a pointless segue into how unfair it is that Israel receive funding and arms for defence against a proscribed terrorist organisation who frequently reiterate their commitment to Israel and its people's annihilation, no matter what the cost to their own.
Could you point out where I said it was unfair Israel were receiving funding and arms for defence against Hamas? You are literally making stuff up now

What's your solution? How can we stop the genocide?

I'm not being facetious, all deaths are awful but I don't really understand why this is called a genocide, Surely if this was a genocide, Gaza and its population would be wiped out? Israel have the ability to do it.

What do you think would happen if Israel stopped being defended? Do you think Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas would say, hey you know what, we won't bother doing the thing that has been our central mission for decades?! Assuming you don't want Israelis murdered by them, where would the Israelis go?

If you know of any Western governments acting to pressure certain regimes to cease funding and arming Hamas, maybe you could've pointed that out and answered my first question, rather than a pointless segue into how unfair it is that Israel receive funding and arms for defence against a proscribed terrorist organisation who frequently reiterate their commitment to Israel and its people's annihilation, no matter what the cost to their own.

No, it's in the article that the genocide is by Israel.

Maybe if the western powers that fund and arm the Israelis would stop and if independent media and journalists were allowed to go into Gaza and document what has happened, maybe that would be enough to stop the incitement of genocide. But I doubt any of that will happen.

It's disingenuous to pretend that you care about anyone thriving when Israel are 'thriving' off of the back of the suffering they are inflicting on others, the systematic descrimination, the denying other people the right to self determination, the stealing and profiting from other people's resources. When Israel start 'thriving' in a legal manner then that will be a great day for everyone but no country can be described as thriving when they are imposing such suffering and discrimination by breaking international law for decades.