Has enough been done to tackle incitement to genocide?

Israel is surrounded by Iranian funded terrorists- Hezbollah and Hamas.They face existential threat from utterly ruthless opponents. @Limesodaagain

Whilst you may have a case for defending some of Israel's actions, you do not strengthen your argument by perpetuating the falsehood that Israel's existence is under threat. Take a look at the materiel and manpower that Hamas and Hezbollah can call upon and then compare that with the armoury of Israel. The former two, whilst being able to bring destruction and death to Israel, are totally incapable and far short of being able to wipe it out. Hamas and Hezbollah may claim they wish to, but that it simply bluff,and rhetoric for local consumption. And I'm pretty sure that if there were a real threat from Iran,then nuclear USA and nuclear Israel could see them off pretty quick.
So no, militarily there is no existential threat to Israel and you are grossly exaggerating the danger that there is.

I'm not even talking about their actions in the current conflict, investigations and rulings will happen on that in tine. Israel have been choosing to break international law for decades. The landmark ruling of 19 July 2024 declared that Israel’s occupation of the Gaza strip and the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, is unlawful, along with the associated settlement regime, annexation and use of natural resources. The Court added that Israel's legislation and measures violate the international prohibition on racial segregation and apartheid. The ICJ mandated Israel to end its occupation, dismantle its settlements, provide full reparations to Palestinian victims and facilitate the return of displaced people.

More here: https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/07/experts-hail-icj-declaration-illegality-israels-presence-occupied

Iran break international law and so do Israel. We don't need to wait for answers, we have answers. It is clear that Israel are responsible for some of the suffering of Palestinians. Ignoring one because the other is 'breaking international law worse' is absurd.

@SharonEllis you said you respect the ICJ and the ICC, so you know exactly what Israel are choosing to do, that you choose to downplay it is imo 'sick' as you would say. Hold Israel to account and condemn them for their measures that violate international prohibition on racial segregation and apartheid. International law is international law.

They also called on the international community to challenge Israel’s deliberate efforts to rewrite the rules of international humanitarian law, using it as “humanitarian camouflage” to legitimise potentially genocidal violence against all Palestinians.

This paragraph should not be ignored. Don't be part of Israels camouflage.

What about Israeli snipers shooting young Palestinian children in the head which has reported by international doctors? Just as a start.

OnlyCherry has not lost anything

You have lost it Im afraid.

Israel is surrounded by Iranian funded terrorists- Hezbollah and Hamas.They face existential threat from utterly ruthless opponents.

Of course Israel must obey international law and they have questions to answer. ( Little Hind / the aid workers )

I do want answers to those questions when the conflict is over and Hamas is defeated.

But Hamas and Iran should be held accountable for the suffering of the Palestinians.

The US used Israel and Iran as a proxies to counter the USSR’s Middle East proxies in the 1970s. Then the USSR collapsed and now the US is using Israel as a proxy against Iran.

Times change.

Here is a 2019 blog from London School of Economics with a bit of the history of the US and it’s proxies in the Middle East
https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lseih/2019/09/03/u-s-proxy-warfare-patterns-in-middle-eastern-conflicts/

They meet the definition in all respects. Everything you list is irrelevant in the context of determining if an entity is a proxy or not for a larger power.
Goodies and baddies and everyone in between can and has used proxies.

I really don't understand the but they are breaking international law worse argument. International law is supposed to be the line you don't cross. When you cross you lose the support of law abiding countries or else they become accessories in those crimes,or at least that is how it is supposed to work. Both Israel and Iran share one awful truth, they don't respect International law and as a result innocent people suffer. Oh but they do it worse shouldn't be some kind of excuse to sweep one countries crimes under the rug. Both need to be condemned for the crimes that they choose to commit.

@Lalaloveya if you had spent any time with Iranian exiles, as I have you would be thoroughly ashamed.

Do you know ANYTHING about Iran?
I think you’ve been lost in an echo chamber for far too long

Sorry are you suggesting Israel is any sort of equivalent to Iran? Apologies if I have misunderstood - please do clarify.

@ToBeDetermined just because it is in the US's very obvious strategic interests to support Israel does not mean Israel is a proxy. The US snd the UK & other Western democratic governments support Israel because it would br a catastrophe to allow Iran and others to destroy Israel and kill half the world's Jewish people. Israel is a thriving successful country and an important trading partner.

Me too 🙏

It is an act of humanity though. A concession to the families of the hostages and Palestinian children- both groups are innocents in all this. That gives me hope for an eventual ceasfire.

Wow. I can't believe this post 😂

Why do you think the US funds Israel's war/genocide machine?

And supporting Israel whilst complaining about other countries being apartheid states and terrorising people. Unbelievable.

Israel is fighting Iran’s proxy as a proxy for the USA.

It’s not hard to understand why the USA has armed and funded Israel to the tune of $bns every year.

Let’s not pretend that the USA has never been an aggressor in the Middle East.

They certainly used Saudi Arabia as a proxy against Iraq in the past.

There is a long history of proxies. Russia and China have proxies too. It’s a geopolitical reality.

”Proxy war” is a universal strategy it’s not limited to only baddies using them.

The Times of Israel agrees:
”In a letter to the directors of the WHO and UNICEF, Dr. Hagai Levine noted that two young brothers, Kfir Bibas, 1, and Ariel Bibas, 5, are among the hostages. He also says many of the adult hostages are overdue for booster shots.
“Given their vulnerable position and the lack of essential vaccinations, the hostages are at severe risk,” Levine, who also serves as head of the health division for the Hostage Families Forum umbrella group, wrote in the letter.”
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-agrees-to-pinpoint-humanitarian-pauses-in-gaza-for-polio-vaccinations-who-says/

This is a disgusting post. In what way is Israel a proxy for the US? What wars is Isrsel fighting on behalf of the US? Iran runs a brutal dictatorship which terrorises its people and practices religious and sex-based apartheid and sponsors terrorism in tbe region particularly against Israel but its pernicious i fluence is felt by ordinary people everywhere it operates - including the ordinary Palestimians which you profess to care about.

Thanks
I said this earlier “The vaccination programme is obviously in Israel’s interest.It doesn’t make them any better or worse.

“There isn’t equity in scale or intention or morality”
Agreed ( that was sort of my point- perhaps I wasn’t clear )

Why do we vaccinate our hens against salmonella?
Hint: It’s not for the hens benefit alone.

There isn’t equity in scale or intention or morality, but their roles of arming and using another to fight a proxy war are not dissimilar.

Hamas is proxy for Iran
Israel is proxy for the USA

Dulra has a point there.

God OK. I'll explain it like you're 5.

The post is suggesting that Israel couldn't possibly be genocidal because they're allowing Palestinians to be vaccinated. Which is exactly what I said in my post.

The vaccination programme is obviously in Israel’s interest.It doesn’t make them any better or worse.

The screen shot doesn’t really support your claim though? It’s asking why a genocidal regime would vaccinate the “enemy “?