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Bunnyasmyname · 26/07/2024 14:07

ScrollingLeaves · 26/07/2024 13:27

Haaretz (Israeli newspaper)
Feb 2024

High Stakes: Moroccan Hashish Dealers Reportedly Boycott Israel, Cite Palestinian Suffering

Although exporting Hashish to Israel was incredibly lucrative to dealers in Morocco, they are no longer willing to sell to Israeli dealers: 'Why Should Israelis be able to make a living selling Moroccan hashish when our Palestinian brothers are suffering from hunger?'

Hashish dealers in Morocco have said they will stop supplying to Israel in light of the war in Gaza, as reported by Israeli news site Mako on Friday.

Lol! OK then. If the drug dealers said it in Ha aretz, it must be true!

Perhaps you should spread the word to drug dealers worldwide? Surely better than boycotting Israeli fruit and veg.

SeeSeeRider · 26/07/2024 13:59

Maybe they should also hack Hamas and ask them to stop murdering babies and raping teenagers?

Finallyloggedin · 26/07/2024 13:57

ScrollingLeaves · 26/07/2024 13:53

I don’t really know. It could be that RoastSquash believes a peace keeping UN force mentioned a few posts ago would be like an invasion of Israel, taking it by force, and stopping it from existing?

It would be easier if they quoted what they are responding to though.

Thank you @ScrollingLeaves . I saw a post about UN peacekeepers but it seemed to be suggesting that that that would be a bad thing for Israel, so I assumed whatever point that poster was making, it was in support of Israel.

for what it’s worth, I do believe that UN Peacekeepers should be going into Gaza to keep the peace there.

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ScrollingLeaves · 26/07/2024 13:53

Finallyloggedin · 26/07/2024 13:39

What are you even on about?

I don’t really know. It could be that RoastSquash believes a peace keeping UN force mentioned a few posts ago would be like an invasion of Israel, taking it by force, and stopping it from existing?

It would be easier if they quoted what they are responding to though.

ForMellowHam · 26/07/2024 13:42

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RoastSquash · 26/07/2024 13:41

Are you even reading your own thread? It's only a few posts back.

Finallyloggedin · 26/07/2024 13:39

RoastSquash · 26/07/2024 13:31

Honestly, that someone just threw that out there like it's a totally reasonable proposition is absolutely batshit. Don't like Israel? Would prefer it didn't exist? Well then, why not just invade them and take the country by force because historically that's always gone so well? Oh, wait...

What are you even on about?

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RoastSquash · 26/07/2024 13:31

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Honestly, that someone just threw that out there like it's a totally reasonable proposition is absolutely batshit. Don't like Israel? Would prefer it didn't exist? Well then, why not just invade them and take the country by force because historically that's always gone so well? Oh, wait...

ScrollingLeaves · 26/07/2024 13:27

Bunnyasmyname · 26/07/2024 12:53

You seriously believe the Moroccan drug dealers are doing this because they care about Palestinians?

I've read an awful lot of made up shite on this forum, but I can't fathom how even as you typed that, you believed it wasn't complete rubbish??

Haaretz (Israeli newspaper)
Feb 2024

High Stakes: Moroccan Hashish Dealers Reportedly Boycott Israel, Cite Palestinian Suffering

Although exporting Hashish to Israel was incredibly lucrative to dealers in Morocco, they are no longer willing to sell to Israeli dealers: 'Why Should Israelis be able to make a living selling Moroccan hashish when our Palestinian brothers are suffering from hunger?'

Hashish dealers in Morocco have said they will stop supplying to Israel in light of the war in Gaza, as reported by Israeli news site Mako on Friday.

crabsforceltigar · 26/07/2024 13:11

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Bunnyasmyname · 26/07/2024 12:53

ScrollingLeaves · 25/07/2024 13:12

Wasn’t the point that even evil Moroccan drug smugglers, who normally care for nothing but money, balked at carrying out their normal trade with Israeli drug dealers because they wanted to show solidarity with the Palestinians?

It is not that drug dealing per se is a good thing.

You seriously believe the Moroccan drug dealers are doing this because they care about Palestinians?

I've read an awful lot of made up shite on this forum, but I can't fathom how even as you typed that, you believed it wasn't complete rubbish??

RoastSquash · 26/07/2024 12:48

SpiritAdder · 26/07/2024 10:42

As things go, it’s a nonviolent pressure and better than a UN peacekeeping force invading Israel and killing alot of IDF to do it.

Are there any other countries currently at war/in conflict that you think the UN peacekeepers should invade and kill their military personnel in large numbers? Do you think this is a viable option?

Dulra · 26/07/2024 10:49

SharonEllis · 26/07/2024 10:25

They made a substantive point, as did I, which you are choosing to ignore!

You tagged who your substantive point was directed at so I assume they will respond to you.

I was referring to
Well, they tell us they are equally concerned about all the other human rights abuses in the world and not in any way obsessed with Israel, but yes, very clued up about everywhere else.

Who is they? The passive aggressive tone and lumping all posters in to one just gets peoples backs up. Tag what posters you are referring to, we are all individuals here not one en masse group

Finallyloggedin · 26/07/2024 10:46

SharonEllis · 26/07/2024 09:45

Well, they tell us they are equally concerned about all the other human rights abuses in the world and not in any way obsessed with Israel, but yes, very clued up about everywhere else. But then @Finallyloggedin questions whether Syria is a failed state, when its been fairly regularly discussed over many years that it fits the definition pretty well A state that murders its own citizens, that allows over 600,000 of its citizens to be killed, an ongoing humanitarian crisis and thousands and thousands to leave as refugees, including unaccompanied children. I think that meets the threshold of a state that is failing to meet the economic, social & political needs of its citizens.

I wasn’t questioning whether it was a failed state, I was asking what the poster believed caused it to be one. As in, what events led up to it becoming a failed state? And which other countries were involved in these events?

and there is no need for you to be so rude, either. It is unnecessary and cheapens any argument you have.

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SpiritAdder · 26/07/2024 10:42

As things go, it’s a nonviolent pressure and better than a UN peacekeeping force invading Israel and killing alot of IDF to do it.

PeasfullPerson · 26/07/2024 10:38

People still wheeling out the argument that being against the Israeli offensive in Gaza, is proof of antisemitism, unless you also demonstrably (on mumsnet) focus as much on all other human rights abuses.

Without managing to factor in ….

  • this was enabled and supported by the Conservative government, and that members of the public don’t like being told to ignore, and condone, the suffering of innocent children.
  • that the number of children being killed, and the speed at which this happened, is horrific. In November 23 UNICEF said Gaza was the most dangerous place to be a child.

Nobody should have to defend themselves against such slanderous claims, for simply wanting an end to the cruelty and destruction in Gaza. The spotlight needs to stay on those committing these crimes.

SharonEllis · 26/07/2024 10:25

Dulra · 26/07/2024 10:24

Interesting that some posters are just opting for slagging off and attempting to belittle posters now

They made a substantive point, as did I, which you are choosing to ignore!

Dulra · 26/07/2024 10:24

Interesting that some posters are just opting for slagging off and attempting to belittle posters now

Dulra · 26/07/2024 10:22

HowIrresponsible · 26/07/2024 09:07

Well exactly and what if all of the nobody mners get what they want and all those ranting from the river to the sea ...you get the complete annihilation of the Israeli state and Hamas at the helm of a nation that never existed in the first place. Then what?

There won't be a group of fluffy kind people starting a democracy, there will be another Arab failed state like Syria.

Are any of you protesting any of the other oppressions of people on a global scale or is it just this one?

Well exactly and what if all of the nobody mners get what they want

Please enlighten us on what you think the "nobody" mumsnetters want?

Dulra · 26/07/2024 10:21

SharonEllis · 26/07/2024 09:45

Well, they tell us they are equally concerned about all the other human rights abuses in the world and not in any way obsessed with Israel, but yes, very clued up about everywhere else. But then @Finallyloggedin questions whether Syria is a failed state, when its been fairly regularly discussed over many years that it fits the definition pretty well A state that murders its own citizens, that allows over 600,000 of its citizens to be killed, an ongoing humanitarian crisis and thousands and thousands to leave as refugees, including unaccompanied children. I think that meets the threshold of a state that is failing to meet the economic, social & political needs of its citizens.

Well, they tell us

Whose they?

SharonEllis · 26/07/2024 09:45

HowIrresponsible · 26/07/2024 09:07

Well exactly and what if all of the nobody mners get what they want and all those ranting from the river to the sea ...you get the complete annihilation of the Israeli state and Hamas at the helm of a nation that never existed in the first place. Then what?

There won't be a group of fluffy kind people starting a democracy, there will be another Arab failed state like Syria.

Are any of you protesting any of the other oppressions of people on a global scale or is it just this one?

Well, they tell us they are equally concerned about all the other human rights abuses in the world and not in any way obsessed with Israel, but yes, very clued up about everywhere else. But then @Finallyloggedin questions whether Syria is a failed state, when its been fairly regularly discussed over many years that it fits the definition pretty well A state that murders its own citizens, that allows over 600,000 of its citizens to be killed, an ongoing humanitarian crisis and thousands and thousands to leave as refugees, including unaccompanied children. I think that meets the threshold of a state that is failing to meet the economic, social & political needs of its citizens.

Finallyloggedin · 26/07/2024 09:27

@HowIrresponsible there is no need to be so rude!

Genuine question - what (and who) do you think were the causes of syria becoming a failed state? (I’m not sure of the definition of ‘failed state’ but I’m just going by you describing it in that way).

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HowIrresponsible · 26/07/2024 09:07

SharonEllis · 23/07/2024 20:26

Let me get this straight - you think its a good thing that an 'Anonymous', that is accountable to noone and completely non transparent is blackmailing a sovereign democratic country? How will Anonymous manage the requisite peace process - what are the terms that they will be forcing on Israel to end the war? will they be blackmailing Hamas with to get them to agree to end the war? Will they be forcing them to release the hostages? What do you think 'ending the war' looks like?

Well exactly and what if all of the nobody mners get what they want and all those ranting from the river to the sea ...you get the complete annihilation of the Israeli state and Hamas at the helm of a nation that never existed in the first place. Then what?

There won't be a group of fluffy kind people starting a democracy, there will be another Arab failed state like Syria.

Are any of you protesting any of the other oppressions of people on a global scale or is it just this one?

Moglet4 · 26/07/2024 09:02

poshsnobtwit · 24/07/2024 17:46

Hamas are to blame for everything that happens in Gaza

Really @blackcherryconserve ? The blockades, the calorific rationing, the destroying of fisher boats, purposeful destruction of salination systems, the prevention of access of life saving medicines...in what way is any of these Israeli policies that have been in place for years the blame of Hamas? Can we please just take a few seconds to acknowledge the sheer harm that has resulted at the hands of Israel? We'll not even mention the WB at this point.

Quite. It’s a disgusting, vile comment but you’re not going to get someone that entrenched to change their view.

Finallyloggedin · 25/07/2024 19:57

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