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This is the reality of what Israel is doing (part 4)

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Eyesopenwideawake · 09/07/2024 18:08

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/07/09/israel-gaza-hamas-hospitals/

I see the old thread is sadly almost full. I wonder how many of these I will start? 😢

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ScrollingLeaves · 21/07/2024 17:19

Even in what David Collier says he has uncovered as being the real context for the BBC story, that

  • this was a family of terrorists,

-who couldn’t care less about Muhammad he implies, given there are no photos of him on Facebook or elsewhere(? ? We can see them)

-and he has a family member who despises disabled people, including Muhammed no doubt, given his mocking remark about the disabled appearance of an IDF soldier,

and that,

-as the story was reported by one of his brothers who is an Islamic Jihad propoganda reporter, it will be a lie,

-and the interview with his old mother will be a lie too as she is the widow of a Hamas terrorist

nowhere, do we learn that the man was not autistic, not born with Down’s Syndrome, not attacked by an IDF combat dog, the dog not called off until after it had mauled the man to the point of fatally injuring him. Or learn that the IDF sent for an ambulance for this man, or left his elderly (unarmed) mother with him to comfort him.

The family has called for an enquiry.

David Collier’s reasoning would seem to suggest that propaganda is only propaganda if it is Palestinian. He is just writing the truth on behalf of Israel. That if Ben-Givr or Netanyahu ( terrorists from a Palestinian point of view) had an autistic Downs Syndrome son killed by a Palestinian attack dog, that would be only to be expected; and that if had been one of these men’s wives reporting their son killed in this way, they could be dismissed as liars given who their husbands are.

ScrollingLeaves · 21/07/2024 16:52

Scirocco · 21/07/2024 16:21

How does a canine 'detect terrorists'?

I was wondering that!

Dulra · 21/07/2024 16:44

Scirocco · 21/07/2024 16:19

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fergal_Keane

Is this the journalist being described as an 'amateur hack'?

Fergal Keane the renowned war correspondent who has reported from numerous war zones to the point he struggles with mental health issues brought on by PTSD. Yeah amateur hack alright 🙄

AhNowTed · 21/07/2024 16:29

@Scirocco

Oh that guy.

His bio "fighting the truth" and a load of flags after his name.

Stop it 😂

Scirocco · 21/07/2024 16:22

AhNowTed · 21/07/2024 16:21

Who the fuck said that?

The guy writing on x/Twitter (in the threadreader link).

Scirocco · 21/07/2024 16:21

How does a canine 'detect terrorists'?

AhNowTed · 21/07/2024 16:21

Scirocco · 21/07/2024 16:19

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fergal_Keane

Is this the journalist being described as an 'amateur hack'?

Who the fuck said that?

Scirocco · 21/07/2024 16:19

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fergal_Keane

Is this the journalist being described as an 'amateur hack'?

Fergal Keane - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fergal_Keane

Dulra · 21/07/2024 14:57

BelleHathor · 21/07/2024 14:55

The BBC has not updated their story, the Tweeter, described in his bio as an investigate journalist, has apparently researched the situation around the incident and with a lot of conjecture accuses the BBC of being biased and the deceased boys family as being Hamas (or for accuracy PIJ).
Unroll here: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1814930617080881243.html

Edited

Thanks I did another Google and there is no updated story. All news publications reporting same as bbc.

This publication has input from IDF on it

https://www.thenationalnews.com/news/mena/2024/07/19/israeli-military-admits-abandoning-injured-palestinian-found-dead-days-later/

Mohammed Bahar was found dead days after being attacked by an Israeli army dog. Photo: supplied

Israeli military admits abandoning injured Palestinian found dead days later | The National

Mohammed Bahar, who had Down syndrome, was mauled in his home by an army dog

https://www.thenationalnews.com/news/mena/2024/07/19/israeli-military-admits-abandoning-injured-palestinian-found-dead-days-later

BelleHathor · 21/07/2024 14:55

The BBC has not updated their story, the Tweeter, described in his bio as an investigate journalist, has apparently researched the situation around the incident and with a lot of conjecture accuses the BBC of being biased and the deceased boys family as being Hamas (or for accuracy PIJ).
Unroll here: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1814930617080881243.html

Thread by @mishtal on Thread Reader App

@mishtal: Exclusive: @bbcnews deliberately held back truth about dog attack story - whitewashing a family of terrorists and then butchering an IDF statement to make sure YOU never got to hear about it. Why is this al...…

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1814930617080881243.html

Dulra · 21/07/2024 14:51

ScrollingLeaves · 21/07/2024 13:50

Do You know what happened to the Downs Syndrome young man?

I don’t have Twitter, so could not read the thread. Please would you post the un-roll?

Yes same not on twitter so can't read update.

@LordPercyPercy could you post a link to the updated story?

ScrollingLeaves · 21/07/2024 13:50

LordPercyPercy · 21/07/2024 11:41

There's been a bit of an update on the dog attack story, seems it wasn't quite as straightforward as initially portrayed:

https://x.com/mishtal/status/1814930617080881243

Do You know what happened to the Downs Syndrome young man?

I don’t have Twitter, so could not read the thread. Please would you post the un-roll?

LordPercyPercy · 21/07/2024 11:41

There's been a bit of an update on the dog attack story, seems it wasn't quite as straightforward as initially portrayed:

https://x.com/mishtal/status/1814930617080881243

x.com

https://x.com/mishtal/status/1814930617080881243

AhNowTed · 21/07/2024 10:57

Barbaric.

5 masked settlers armed with clubs attack a family at their home, hospitalising 2 - accompanied by the IDF who threatens the poor innocent family. The soldier says he is "protecting Israeli citizens".

These people are monsters.

Full video:

x.com/alhaq_org/status/1814720851880587265?s=46&t=tm415yZZZz0e-dE263leqA

ScrollingLeaves · 20/07/2024 18:38

From Haaretz 19July Gideon Levy.

Perhaps look up “I shoot because I am bored” someone posted a couple of weeks ago.

^A Palestinian Boy Was on His Way Home From Soccer Practice When He Was Shot Dead by Israeli Troops
Soldiers shot and wounded a 12-year-old boy from Ramallah, then prevented a Palestinian ambulance from evacuating him for 20 minutes. Eight days after he was abandoned by the roadside bleeding, he died,^

The memorial corner, in the entrance hall of the small apartment: a goalkeeper's gloves; a pair of black cleats; a Real Madrid shirt emblazoned with the name of the adored Turkish player Arda Güler and his number, 24; a model of a passenger plane; and a photo of the dead boy who owned all these objects. At the age of 12, his dreams revolved around soccer and becoming a dentist. But they will never materialize. He was shot by an Israel Defense Forces soldier as he tried to return home from a nearby soccer field.

ScrollingLeaves · 20/07/2024 18:27

SummerFeverVenice · 19/07/2024 10:10

The Philistines were refugees that settled along the coast of Palestine due to the Bronze Age collapse. Within a few generations, they had intermixed with the indigenous Canaanites such that their DNA signatures were absorbed.

Today’s Palestinians are descended from the Canaanites, which includes the addition of the Philistines. But Palestinian presence in the region long predates the Philistines.

Sort of like today’s white British are descended from the Britons, which includes the addition of the Romans, the Saxons, the Danes and the Normans- whose DNA has been largely absorbed. White British presence in the British Isles long predates the presence of the English (Angle or Anglii tribe of Saxons that invaded in the 5th century, settling along the East coast of Great Britain) even though many refer to UK citizens as “the English” it’s just an overlay over a much more ancient ancestry linked to the region.

Palestinian/Philistine is analogous to British/English.

Thanks so much for explaining that history, and giving that comparison to Britain.

SummerFeverVenice · 19/07/2024 10:10

The Philistines were refugees that settled along the coast of Palestine due to the Bronze Age collapse. Within a few generations, they had intermixed with the indigenous Canaanites such that their DNA signatures were absorbed.

Today’s Palestinians are descended from the Canaanites, which includes the addition of the Philistines. But Palestinian presence in the region long predates the Philistines.

Sort of like today’s white British are descended from the Britons, which includes the addition of the Romans, the Saxons, the Danes and the Normans- whose DNA has been largely absorbed. White British presence in the British Isles long predates the presence of the English (Angle or Anglii tribe of Saxons that invaded in the 5th century, settling along the East coast of Great Britain) even though many refer to UK citizens as “the English” it’s just an overlay over a much more ancient ancestry linked to the region.

Palestinian/Philistine is analogous to British/English.

ScrollingLeaves · 18/07/2024 23:37

Phillistine still is the Turkish and Greek word for Palestinian.

ScrollingLeaves · 18/07/2024 23:35

ConnieCounter · 18/07/2024 20:29

It certainly is. That man is evil.

As for this
Israel’s finance minister Smotrich: “A Palestinian state cannot established since there is no such thing as a Palestinian people!

The Israelis themselves have a military code phrase referring to the Palestinians’ ancient Biblical name, the Phillistines. They have been around as long as the Jews one way or another.

This is from Haaretz July 7 writing about Oct 7
At 6:43 A.M., at which time rocket barrages were launched at Israel and thousands of Hamas operatives were attacking army strongholds and the division's observation and communications capabilities, the division's commander Brog. Gen. Avi. Rosenfeld declared that "the Philistines have invaded."

This is the procedure when an enemy invades Israeli territory, upon which a division commander can assume extraordinary authority, including the employment of heavy fire inside Israeli territory, in order to block an enemy raid.

This man is like Putin trying to say there are no such people as Ukrainians.

ConnieCounter · 18/07/2024 23:28

anotherlevel · 18/07/2024 22:31

It really tears me into pieces when I see babies being killed. I just can't.

www.instagram.com/reel/C9lCA4AqCNQ/?igsh=MTNhbW1qbXZjdndvcg==

My God. That poor baby. They are impossibly tiny. There are no words left to say.

ScrollingLeaves · 18/07/2024 23:22

ConnieCounter · 18/07/2024 15:21

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9kD5q8o3So/?igsh=MWRrMGttZGg0bmNwbA==

Is the woman disrupting drunk or just a dickhead? Both maybe?

It is very good that the Knesset member, the woman with white curly hair, is calling for Palestine to be recognised as a state.

The other woman is not drunk, I don’t think, just unpleasant, cocky, and making fun of her.

anotherlevel · 18/07/2024 22:31

It really tears me into pieces when I see babies being killed. I just can't.

www.instagram.com/reel/C9lCA4AqCNQ/?igsh=MTNhbW1qbXZjdndvcg==

PeasfullPerson · 18/07/2024 14:14

ScrollingLeaves · 18/07/2024 11:29

NB Although that July 7 article from Haaretz I posted yesterday said further investigations into Oct 7 would reveal more,
those investigations it seems are not going to happen.

Haaretz yesterday evening:

ISRAEL: The Knesset rejected on Wednesday a bill to establish a state commission of inquiry into the events of October 7. Some 53 coalition MKs opposed the proposal submitted separately by Orit Farkash (National Unity) and Meir Cohen (Yesh Atid), while 51 supported it.

I’m sure that in time there will be an investigation.

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