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This is the reality of what Israel is doing (part 4)

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Eyesopenwideawake · 09/07/2024 18:08

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/07/09/israel-gaza-hamas-hospitals/

I see the old thread is sadly almost full. I wonder how many of these I will start? 😢

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PeasfullPerson · 23/08/2024 22:21

There is more about it here @ScrollingLeaves

I haven’t seen the whole letter either, but I imagine he at least means both of them.

With specific reference to Ben-Gvir…..

‘The Shin Bet director also referred to the “spectacle” of Ben-Gvir’s visit last month to the compound of al-Aqsa mosque and Dome of the Rock, Islam’s holiest site in Jerusalem. The esplanade is also holy to Jews who know it as the Temple Mount, but the status quo for decades has been that while Jews could visit, only Muslims could pray there. During his 18 July visit, Ben-Gvir led prayers in front of the cameras and vowed to change the status quo permanently.’

More generally ……

‘The nationalist leadership, Bar concluded, was “willing to jeopardise the state’s security and its very existence” in the name of their ideology.’

AND

‘Bar warned the hilltop youth had gone “from evading the security forces to attacking the security forces, from cutting themselves off from the establishment to receiving legitimacy from certain officials in the establishment”.’

Perhaps they should listen to him! Thank god in our own country, we now have a government that isn’t in danger of legitimising and weaponising such divisive hatred.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/23/israeli-security-chief-ronen-bar-hilltop-youth-west-bank

Israeli security chief condemns ‘terrorism’ of militant settlers

Ronen Bar sparks row with letter to Netanyahu about actions of ‘hilltop youth’ being a ‘large stain on Judaism’

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/23/israeli-security-chief-ronen-bar-hilltop-youth-west-bank

stormy4319trevor · 23/08/2024 20:16

There must surely be a minimu of a pause to allow polio vaccinations. How terrible to see a resurgence of an illness so easily preventable by vaccination.

ScrollingLeaves · 23/08/2024 18:39

Haaretz
Shin Bet Chief Warns PM and Ministers: Jewish Terror Is Jeopardizing Israel's Existence
'
The Jewish terror leaders want to make the system lose control, the damage to Israel is indescribable,' Ronen Bar warned in a letter. Police incompetence and public legitimacy led to the expansion of Jewish terrorism, he says

Jewish terrorism is endangering Israel's existence, warned Ronen Bar, the head of the Shin Bet security service.

Without the whole article, I am not sure if it means Smotrich and Ben-Givr?

TheOnlyCherryOnMyTree · 23/08/2024 16:38

A 10-month-old girl paralysed by polio in Gaza has become the first confirmed case of the deadly disease to be detected in the war-ravaged enclave in 25 years.

Shame on Israel for facilitating this.

news.un.org/en/story/2024/08/1153486#:~:text=A%2010%2Dmonth%2Dold%20girl,ravaged%20enclave%20in%2025%20years.

BelleHathor · 23/08/2024 14:30

anotherlevel · 23/08/2024 13:57

Just came across this about how the media misled people into thinking that Noa was beaten by Hamas.

The following screenshots were taken from her Instagram account.

"Despite media reporting that she was beaten by Hamas, Argamani went to social media on Friday to say that her words had been taken out of context. She said she was not beaten and her hair was not cut.

"I said, I had cuts all over my head and I was hurt all over my body." Argamani emphasized that her wounds came from the collapse of a building after it was bombed by the IAF."

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-815947

And no, I am not saying Hamas must be good if they didn't beat Noa, incase my words are taken out of context. Just sharing to highlight how media can mislead people.

I appreciate Noa clarifying the statements that were deliberately taken out of context by the media, it's extremely brave. I can't imagine how using her story for propaganda is meant to help her mental health or the other hostages being held.

I saw prominent pro Israeli accounts amplifying the out of context video. It's like despite saying that they care about hostages they're willing to do anything regardless on how those actions impact innocent people.

Scirocco · 23/08/2024 14:30

Thanks for sharing, @anotherlevel

"As a victim of October 7, I will not allow myself to be victimized once again by the media."

What Noa and the other victims of October 7th went through is horrendous enough; it doesn't need to be misrepresented by people in the media or politicians for their own agendas, and doing so, I feel, is very disrespectful to the people who suffered most on that terrible day.

anotherlevel · 23/08/2024 13:57

Just came across this about how the media misled people into thinking that Noa was beaten by Hamas.

The following screenshots were taken from her Instagram account.

"Despite media reporting that she was beaten by Hamas, Argamani went to social media on Friday to say that her words had been taken out of context. She said she was not beaten and her hair was not cut.

"I said, I had cuts all over my head and I was hurt all over my body." Argamani emphasized that her wounds came from the collapse of a building after it was bombed by the IAF."

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-815947

And no, I am not saying Hamas must be good if they didn't beat Noa, incase my words are taken out of context. Just sharing to highlight how media can mislead people.

This is the reality of what Israel is doing (part 4)
This is the reality of what Israel is doing (part 4)
Scirocco · 22/08/2024 08:28

ConnieCounter · 21/08/2024 21:31

I just saw it, unfortunately. In the context of evil pricks saying it's a hoax.

What do these morons think happens to tiny child bodies when you bomb them? They die nice and peacefully and their bodies remain unscathed?

It's beyond horrific. Anyone defending this, or Israel's actions or those of their allies must be brainwashed beyond belief or just have zero empathy for human beings outside of their own religion or race or social group. Sick.

People prefer not to think about the reality of death. For many people, death is a nicely sanitised thing with white sheets, preservatives, caskets and perfumes. They don't think about the other side of death, where people have to pick up bits of meat from the ground and try to work out whose body it might be.

Scirocco · 22/08/2024 08:22

Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un

ConnieCounter · 21/08/2024 21:31

I just saw it, unfortunately. In the context of evil pricks saying it's a hoax.

What do these morons think happens to tiny child bodies when you bomb them? They die nice and peacefully and their bodies remain unscathed?

It's beyond horrific. Anyone defending this, or Israel's actions or those of their allies must be brainwashed beyond belief or just have zero empathy for human beings outside of their own religion or race or social group. Sick.

BelleHathor · 21/08/2024 21:23

lionlass · 21/08/2024 21:05

I opened twitter and it was the first thing I seen. I dropped my phone. These people will pay for what they have done. If not in this life then in the next.

Hugs same here, please take care of yourself ❤️. And yes, it's in a higher powers hands right now, as humans have failed.

lionlass · 21/08/2024 21:05

BelleHathor · 21/08/2024 20:19

Be careful, there's a terrible picture of a child with their head hanging off due to the IDF actions today, it's one of the most sickening images ever seen, may that baby rest in peace.

P.s. some evil people are claiming that it's AI generated or staged "pallywood" propaganda. There are no words for them.

I opened twitter and it was the first thing I seen. I dropped my phone. These people will pay for what they have done. If not in this life then in the next.

Scirocco · 21/08/2024 21:03

BelleHathor · 21/08/2024 20:52

Exactly, I can't say what I would call those types of people.
A Palestinian said that they learned the hard way to record everything that happens to them, as without video evidence too many people deny the atrocities.

Even with video evidence, eyewitness accounts and admissions of "yes, this happened", people still choose to deny things.

BelleHathor · 21/08/2024 20:52

Mellowdramadrama · 21/08/2024 20:35

It's sickening and I think evil doesn't cut it for those sick people who continue to deny what the Palestinians are being brutally subjected to

Exactly, I can't say what I would call those types of people.
A Palestinian said that they learned the hard way to record everything that happens to them, as without video evidence too many people deny the atrocities.

Mellowdramadrama · 21/08/2024 20:35

BelleHathor · 21/08/2024 20:19

Be careful, there's a terrible picture of a child with their head hanging off due to the IDF actions today, it's one of the most sickening images ever seen, may that baby rest in peace.

P.s. some evil people are claiming that it's AI generated or staged "pallywood" propaganda. There are no words for them.

It's sickening and I think evil doesn't cut it for those sick people who continue to deny what the Palestinians are being brutally subjected to

ConnieCounter · 21/08/2024 20:25

BelleHathor · 21/08/2024 20:19

Be careful, there's a terrible picture of a child with their head hanging off due to the IDF actions today, it's one of the most sickening images ever seen, may that baby rest in peace.

P.s. some evil people are claiming that it's AI generated or staged "pallywood" propaganda. There are no words for them.

Oh my God. Such horrors. Every day.

BelleHathor · 21/08/2024 20:19

Be careful, there's a terrible picture of a child with their head hanging off due to the IDF actions today, it's one of the most sickening images ever seen, may that baby rest in peace.

P.s. some evil people are claiming that it's AI generated or staged "pallywood" propaganda. There are no words for them.

TheOnlyCherryOnMyTree · 21/08/2024 20:14

ConnieCounter · 21/08/2024 20:10

I see they've bombed another school. UNWRA saying children were burned to death.

And RTÉ news reported today that 50 people have been killed in the last 24 hours, presumably figures from the Palestinian authorities.

I héard that earlier, Unwra said the school was also being used as a medical facility. We all know at this stage how Israel feels about medical care in Gaza.

ConnieCounter · 21/08/2024 20:10

I see they've bombed another school. UNWRA saying children were burned to death.

And RTÉ news reported today that 50 people have been killed in the last 24 hours, presumably figures from the Palestinian authorities.

Scirocco · 21/08/2024 14:21

EasterIssland · 21/08/2024 14:18

It's so sad to see any government behaving like this - the hostages and their families need to be a priority, but seem to have been reduced to an afterthought in the eyes of the very government that should be pulling out all the stops to get them home.