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This is the reality of what Israel is doing (part 4)

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Eyesopenwideawake · 09/07/2024 18:08

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/07/09/israel-gaza-hamas-hospitals/

I see the old thread is sadly almost full. I wonder how many of these I will start? 😢

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Scirocco · 20/09/2024 14:40

Mercurial123 · 20/09/2024 13:44

Dehumanising people is part of genocide. Just like the Rwanda genocide when the Tutsis were referred to as "cockroaches".

Indeed. Dehumanising language helps create a mindset in which abhorrent acts can be carried out. Afterwards, people say how it should never again be allowed, but how quickly people forget...

Mercurial123 · 20/09/2024 13:44

Mellowdramadrama · 20/09/2024 11:02

The only explanation I can think of is the IDF see the Palestinians as sub-human. Otherwise why would someone even kick a dead dog so callously off the top of a high building, let alone a human!

Dehumanising people is part of genocide. Just like the Rwanda genocide when the Tutsis were referred to as "cockroaches".

PeasfullPerson · 20/09/2024 11:39

LoremIpsumCici · 20/09/2024 11:29

Yes, I agree people have stopped seeing Arabs, Palestinians and Muslims as human. This includes the minority of Arabs and Palestinians that are Christian or Zoroastrian as well.

There was a really good opinion piece in Haaretz that stated
”Just like the glorious assassinations which never contributed anything, so are the pager heroics, nothing but a cinematic gimmick. Other than the drool shed in TV studios by people who salivate over every dead or wounded Arab, Israel's situation on the day after is worse than it was on the day before this heroic operation, even if people gave out sweets in Israel.”

and
”War in the north moved closer the other day, at an alarming speed. It will bethe most preventable war in the country's history. It could be its biggest bloodbath as well. When Hezbollah explicitly states that it will stop shooting as soon as a cease-fire deal is signed with Hamas, and Israel is unwilling to stop the war in Gaza under any circumstances, it is inviting Hezbollah to attack it. That's what a war of choice looks like.”

for full opinion piece
https://apple.news/AM82cSWUHR0qVeucVraTKtA

It’s tragic.

LoremIpsumCici · 20/09/2024 11:29

Yes, I agree people have stopped seeing Arabs, Palestinians and Muslims as human. This includes the minority of Arabs and Palestinians that are Christian or Zoroastrian as well.

There was a really good opinion piece in Haaretz that stated
”Just like the glorious assassinations which never contributed anything, so are the pager heroics, nothing but a cinematic gimmick. Other than the drool shed in TV studios by people who salivate over every dead or wounded Arab, Israel's situation on the day after is worse than it was on the day before this heroic operation, even if people gave out sweets in Israel.”

and
”War in the north moved closer the other day, at an alarming speed. It will bethe most preventable war in the country's history. It could be its biggest bloodbath as well. When Hezbollah explicitly states that it will stop shooting as soon as a cease-fire deal is signed with Hamas, and Israel is unwilling to stop the war in Gaza under any circumstances, it is inviting Hezbollah to attack it. That's what a war of choice looks like.”

for full opinion piece
https://apple.news/AM82cSWUHR0qVeucVraTKtA

Opinion | 'Hollywood' pager attack sent a clear message: Israel wants another redundant war — Haaretz

We now also have it in writing, in a thousand exploding copies: Israel wants a war, a big one.

https://apple.news/AM82cSWUHR0qVeucVraTKtA

LoremIpsumCici · 20/09/2024 11:23

anotherlevel · 20/09/2024 11:02

@EasterIssland Same here - also when you share instagram links it sometimes gives away your identity when someone opens the link.

Oh, I did not know that. Thank you.

Scirocco · 20/09/2024 11:06

Mellowdramadrama · 20/09/2024 11:00

That is barbaric! Pushing bodies of Palestinians you have killed off the top of buildings!
What the hell is wrong with them

Many, many things. When radicalised people get given weapons and approval from their bosses and elements of society to do what they want, to a population that they don't see as human, horrible things become the 'done thing'. People are actively filming themselves and their mates doing increasingly vile things, putting it on social media and getting likes and validation for it.

People have stopped seeing Palestinians, Arabs and Muslims as human. Suffering inflicted upon people in these groups or people who try to stand up for these groups is now something it's considered ok to joke about and celebrate. It's disgusting.

anotherlevel · 20/09/2024 11:02

@EasterIssland Same here - also when you share instagram links it sometimes gives away your identity when someone opens the link.

Mellowdramadrama · 20/09/2024 11:02

The only explanation I can think of is the IDF see the Palestinians as sub-human. Otherwise why would someone even kick a dead dog so callously off the top of a high building, let alone a human!

Mellowdramadrama · 20/09/2024 11:00

LoremIpsumCici · 20/09/2024 10:50

New footage from Associated Press of IDF kicking, pushing shot Palestinians off roof tops in Qabatiya, the West Bank. Not known if all were dead or alive & unconscious. IDF has said they will investigate. Even if they were all dead, under international law, soldiers are supposed to ensure dead bodies, including those of enemy combatants, are treated decently.
https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-soldiers-qabatiya-west-bank-ae65d70f7da5db4603ba1b7c77f2ccd3

footage:
https://x.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1836836606558318638

Edited

That is barbaric! Pushing bodies of Palestinians you have killed off the top of buildings!
What the hell is wrong with them

LoremIpsumCici · 20/09/2024 10:58

EasterIssland · 20/09/2024 10:57

Glad this has been picked up by media. I saw it yesterday but I didn’t want to link it as it was in twitter and I knew the source was going to be questioned.

Yes me too. It’s good to wait a bit for the media to do preliminary verification.

EasterIssland · 20/09/2024 10:57

LoremIpsumCici · 20/09/2024 10:50

New footage from Associated Press of IDF kicking, pushing shot Palestinians off roof tops in Qabatiya, the West Bank. Not known if all were dead or alive & unconscious. IDF has said they will investigate. Even if they were all dead, under international law, soldiers are supposed to ensure dead bodies, including those of enemy combatants, are treated decently.
https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-soldiers-qabatiya-west-bank-ae65d70f7da5db4603ba1b7c77f2ccd3

footage:
https://x.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1836836606558318638

Edited

Glad this has been picked up by media. I saw it yesterday but I didn’t want to link it as it was in twitter and I knew the source was going to be questioned.

LoremIpsumCici · 20/09/2024 10:57

Makes the allegation that they deliberately ran over a pregnant woman in labour trying to get to hospital and waving a white flag with a bulldozer in Gaza in the early months of the war more credible. There was footage of her body, and an eyewitness recounting it but not of the alleged event.

anotherlevel · 20/09/2024 10:53

I saw footage of this yesterday too. It's absolutely awful and the way they just walked away so casually after kicking a dead Palestinian off the roof was so chilling.

LoremIpsumCici · 20/09/2024 10:50

New footage from Associated Press of IDF kicking, pushing shot Palestinians off roof tops in Qabatiya, the West Bank. Not known if all were dead or alive & unconscious. IDF has said they will investigate. Even if they were all dead, under international law, soldiers are supposed to ensure dead bodies, including those of enemy combatants, are treated decently.
https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-soldiers-qabatiya-west-bank-ae65d70f7da5db4603ba1b7c77f2ccd3

footage:
https://x.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1836836606558318638

YoYoYoYo12345 · 19/09/2024 13:12

@BelleHathor

I think many people dislike terrorists and seeing them caught out with their method of communication with other terrorists might have felt like a triumph over terrorists.

BelleHathor · 19/09/2024 11:53

Absolutely, social media over the last 48 hours can only be described is a dumpster fire of ignorance, lies, propaganda, racism (with the Irish catching strays) and inhumane (may I say evil) justifications of actions in "defence" aka collateral damage is a.ok.

It's quite sickening to witness. It seems to have a made quite a few people comfortable to show their true colours in a celebratory manner.
There was even a politician in America who asked protesters if they were carrying a pager, the lack of self awareness is astounding and has opened a lot of neutral peoples eyes.
https://x.com/medeabenjamin/status/1836504963029033313

x.com

https://x.com/medeabenjamin/status/1836504963029033313

EasterIssland · 19/09/2024 10:03

anotherlevel · 19/09/2024 08:38

"Unfortunately, West Bank and Lebanese children will be worlds most moral army’s victims (or they already are)"

To Israel they are indispensable in this genocide because to them, they are all "terrorists". 😤

And to some posters unfortunately they’re side effects of a war. Wonder whether killed Israeli kids are as well side effects of a war

ToBeDetermined · 19/09/2024 10:01

anotherlevel · 19/09/2024 08:38

"Unfortunately, West Bank and Lebanese children will be worlds most moral army’s victims (or they already are)"

To Israel they are indispensable in this genocide because to them, they are all "terrorists". 😤

It’s not just the Israeli government. This kind of genocidal ‘kill them all’ sentiment is being expressed on MN.

A poster on another thread said they think Israel should annihilate all combatants and potential combatants. They were taking about potential combatants being Lebanese people referring specifically to the 2 children and the doctors killed by the pager explosions, but it was said generally enough to be applicable to every human living in the lands that Israel is currently attacking- Palestinians, Syrians and Iranians.

anotherlevel · 19/09/2024 08:38

"Unfortunately, West Bank and Lebanese children will be worlds most moral army’s victims (or they already are)"

To Israel they are indispensable in this genocide because to them, they are all "terrorists". 😤

anotherlevel · 19/09/2024 08:34

EasterIssland · 18/09/2024 21:29

Save the children :

710 Palestinian newborn babies have been killed by Israeli forces during the ongoing war in Gaza.

😢😢💔💔

An artist has created a memorial to the children of Gaza using 15,000 teddy bears each symbolising a child killed since 7/10. 😢😢💔💔

EasterIssland · 18/09/2024 22:22

PeasfullPerson · 18/09/2024 21:53

‘Worlds most moral army’

Unfortunately, West Bank and Lebanese children will be worlds most moral army’s victims (or they already are)

ScrollingLeaves · 18/09/2024 21:59

PeasfullPerson · 18/09/2024 21:53

‘Worlds most moral army’

I saw one tonight in Channel 4 news, not absolutely new born, but a baby in arms, being carried to a hospital covered in blood by a neighbour after the baby’s family had all been killed.

PeasfullPerson · 18/09/2024 21:53

EasterIssland · 18/09/2024 21:29

Save the children :

710 Palestinian newborn babies have been killed by Israeli forces during the ongoing war in Gaza.

‘Worlds most moral army’

EasterIssland · 18/09/2024 21:29

Save the children :

710 Palestinian newborn babies have been killed by Israeli forces during the ongoing war in Gaza.

This is the reality of what Israel is doing (part 4)