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This is the reality of what Israel is doing (part 4)

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Eyesopenwideawake · 09/07/2024 18:08

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/07/09/israel-gaza-hamas-hospitals/

I see the old thread is sadly almost full. I wonder how many of these I will start? 😢

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ConnieCounter · 23/09/2024 21:06

ToBeDetermined · 23/09/2024 20:41

I wonder why “useful idiot” isn’t banned then? Have seen that going the rounds on MN. “Idiot” is also offensive and ableist.

It's often used about other posters too, rather than genuinely awful people in news reports.

ToBeDetermined · 23/09/2024 20:41

I wonder why “useful idiot” isn’t banned then? Have seen that going the rounds on MN. “Idiot” is also offensive and ableist.

ScrollingLeaves · 23/09/2024 20:28

EasterIssland · 23/09/2024 16:46

Funny when I got a reply to a report I did today and the reply said “It's also important that users feel they can express their feelings without fear”

so why cant you express how you feel if you feel that a country is ethnic cleansing ?

also, the word cretin was a poster or a politician? I’m sure worse things than cretin have been said in mn about politicians

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It may be that ‘cretin’ used disparagingly is not seen as wrong because of the feelings of the person who is being called that, but because it is now really an outlawed word as it used to be used as an insult based on a cruel reference severely mentally disabled people.
(Clearly you did not intend any ill will towards such people though.)

Limesodaagain · 23/09/2024 19:24

Dulra · 23/09/2024 18:59

Whether you meant it to or not the need to make this statement Both sides are guilty of disturbing, ugly behaviour. It’s very sad but there are extremists on both sides .
Makes this statement That is extremely disturbing and ugly behaviour.
Sound hollow and insincere

Well I can’t help what a random person on mumsnet thinks about my sincerity.
What ever your assumptions my statement is still true. And instead of acknowledging the point I made you chose to imply I’m insincere.

Dulra · 23/09/2024 18:59

Limesodaagain · 23/09/2024 17:17

That is extremely disturbing and ugly behaviour. Both sides are guilty of disturbing, ugly behaviour. It’s very sad but there are extremists on both sides .

Whether you meant it to or not the need to make this statement Both sides are guilty of disturbing, ugly behaviour. It’s very sad but there are extremists on both sides .
Makes this statement That is extremely disturbing and ugly behaviour.
Sound hollow and insincere

Limesodaagain · 23/09/2024 17:17

AhNowTed · 22/09/2024 17:41

@ScrollingLeaves

She's one of the original settlers.

Numerous interviews and videos online. Promotes ethnic cleansing.

"“No Arab, I’m speaking about more than two million Arabs. They will not stay there,” Weiss said. “We Jews will be in Gaza.”

x.com/orlaguerin/status/1772314001319276580?s=46&t=tm415yZZZz0e-dE263leqA

amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/03/20/middleeast/israel-gaza-settlers-daniella-weiss

That is extremely disturbing and ugly behaviour. Both sides are guilty of disturbing, ugly behaviour. It’s very sad but there are extremists on both sides .

Scirocco · 23/09/2024 17:17

Can we refer to them as having a morality impairment?

AhNowTed · 23/09/2024 17:01

I'm not sure either @ConnieCounter given the leaders of the boat tour say so themselves publicly and without shame.

ConnieCounter · 23/09/2024 16:54

EasterIssland · 23/09/2024 16:46

Funny when I got a reply to a report I did today and the reply said “It's also important that users feel they can express their feelings without fear”

so why cant you express how you feel if you feel that a country is ethnic cleansing ?

also, the word cretin was a poster or a politician? I’m sure worse things than cretin have been said in mn about politicians

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I used that word referring to the people taking the boat tour to watch Gaza being bombed whilst talking about taking the land for Israel. It's ableist apparently. I won't use it again.

I'm more disturbed about the term ethnic cleansing being banned. I didn't see that coming. I mean I was referring to people who were on a boat trip looking at Gaza being bombed and talking about how they planned to take over Gaza and live there. I'm not sure how else to describe that.

EasterIssland · 23/09/2024 16:46

ConnieCounter · 23/09/2024 16:36

I asked and apparently the words "cretin" and "ethnic cleansing" are not allowed.

Good to know 🤔

Funny when I got a reply to a report I did today and the reply said “It's also important that users feel they can express their feelings without fear”

so why cant you express how you feel if you feel that a country is ethnic cleansing ?

also, the word cretin was a poster or a politician? I’m sure worse things than cretin have been said in mn about politicians

Scirocco · 23/09/2024 16:41

ConnieCounter · 23/09/2024 16:36

I asked and apparently the words "cretin" and "ethnic cleansing" are not allowed.

Good to know 🤔

We're not allowed to say ethnic cleansing anymore? That's ridiculous.

ConnieCounter · 23/09/2024 16:36

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I asked and apparently the words "cretin" and "ethnic cleansing" are not allowed.

Good to know 🤔

EasterIssland · 23/09/2024 16:08

We have to tell the residents of north Gaza that they have one week to evacuate the territory, which then becomes a military zone; [a zone] in which every figure is a target and, most importantly, no supplies enter this territory. A siege is not only an effective military tactic; it is also compliant with international law. What matters to Sinwar is land and dignity, and with this maneuver, you take away both land and dignity,” Eiland explained at the time.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/netanyahu-tells-lawmakers-hes-considering-generals-plan-to-lay-siege-to-northern-gaza/

——
inst this what they had already done in the past ? Say this is a no safe zone and ask everyone to leave? Moreover , hadn’t they already been there and killed Hamas? Why do they want to do it again? They’re proving that they can’t destroy hamas one year after

Auvergne63 · 23/09/2024 12:26

Freedom of the press is the cornerstone of any democracy.
If I lived in Israel, I would be worried.

EasterIssland · 23/09/2024 11:59

ScrollingLeaves · 23/09/2024 11:45

This from + 972 Magazine Sept 17 2024 seemed too far fetched and hypothetical, but perhaps it isn’t.

A plan to liquidate northern Gaza is gaining steam
As Israeli ministers, generals, and academics bay for a decisive new phase in the war, this is what Operation Starvation and Extermination would look like.

Excerpt ( without links)

Other prominent Israelis, in recent months, have also called on the military to carry out mass extermination in northern Gaza. “Remove the entire civilian population from the north, and whoever remains there will be lawfully sentenced as a terrorist and subjected to a process of starvation or extermination,” Prof. Uzi Rabi, a senior researcher at Tel Aviv University, elaborated in a radio interview on Sept. 15. And in August, according to a report in Ynet, government ministers had already started pressuring Netanyahu to “cleanse” northern Gaza of its inhabitants.

https://www.972mag.com/northern-gaza-liquidation-scenario-eiland-rabi/

There is an article today in haaretz about how the closure of aljazeera in West Bank is a warning to Israeli journalists that they could be next. I think haaretz and +972 are risking loads tho I’m glad they’re not siding with the government and its actions

ScrollingLeaves · 23/09/2024 11:45

This from + 972 Magazine Sept 17 2024 seemed too far fetched and hypothetical, but perhaps it isn’t.

A plan to liquidate northern Gaza is gaining steam
As Israeli ministers, generals, and academics bay for a decisive new phase in the war, this is what Operation Starvation and Extermination would look like.

Excerpt ( without links)

Other prominent Israelis, in recent months, have also called on the military to carry out mass extermination in northern Gaza. “Remove the entire civilian population from the north, and whoever remains there will be lawfully sentenced as a terrorist and subjected to a process of starvation or extermination,” Prof. Uzi Rabi, a senior researcher at Tel Aviv University, elaborated in a radio interview on Sept. 15. And in August, according to a report in Ynet, government ministers had already started pressuring Netanyahu to “cleanse” northern Gaza of its inhabitants.

https://www.972mag.com/northern-gaza-liquidation-scenario-eiland-rabi/

A plan to liquidate northern Gaza is gaining steam

As Israeli ministers, generals, and academics bay for a new phase in the war, this is how Operation Starvation and Extermination would look.

https://www.972mag.com/northern-gaza-liquidation-scenario-eiland-rabi

ScrollingLeaves · 22/09/2024 23:01

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I do not know why either.

AhNowTed · 22/09/2024 22:41

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Mellowdramadrama · 22/09/2024 22:39

AhNowTed · 22/09/2024 07:31

I can barely believe this one.

Boat tours off the coast of Gaza to watch it being bombed.

Young Israeli children and families on the boat, including Limor Son Har-Melech, a member of the Knesset.

Kids taking photos...

Video below.

x.com/suppressednws/status/1837517314033328584?s=46&t=tm415yZZZz0e-dE263leqA

What is wrong with them! When you think you have seen it all.. this is absolutely vile behaviour

ConnieCounter · 22/09/2024 22:31

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ConnieCounter · 22/09/2024 17:44

ScrollingLeaves · 22/09/2024 17:31

That Daniela Weiss, whom we see on the Genocide sight-seeing boat tour, will be telling the children it is all part of God’s plan for them.

There's a word for her but it's probably not allowed on Mumsnet.

AhNowTed · 22/09/2024 17:41

@ScrollingLeaves

She's one of the original settlers.

Numerous interviews and videos online. Promotes ethnic cleansing.

"“No Arab, I’m speaking about more than two million Arabs. They will not stay there,” Weiss said. “We Jews will be in Gaza.”

x.com/orlaguerin/status/1772314001319276580?s=46&t=tm415yZZZz0e-dE263leqA

amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/03/20/middleeast/israel-gaza-settlers-daniella-weiss

ScrollingLeaves · 22/09/2024 17:31

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That Daniela Weiss, whom we see on the Genocide sight-seeing boat tour, will be telling the children it is all part of God’s plan for them.

Auvergne63 · 22/09/2024 15:32

Is this for real? Are people actually taking boat rides? Taking their children too?
No words.
@Scirocco I don't know what to say.

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