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Newborn babies now have little chance of survival in Gaza - hospital director warns

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ConnieCounter · 04/07/2024 11:56

Newborn babies now have little chance of survival in Gaza, hospital director warns | World News | Sky News

This is an outrage, but an entirely foreseeable outcome from Israel's cruel treatement of the people of Gaza. Never in my life have I seen so many instances in a conflict of newborn babies being killed, or left to die, or conditions created where they will inevitably die. It's sickening.

Newborn babies now have little chance of survival in Gaza, hospital director warns

Mothers are so malnourished they cannot breastfeed, so their babies are dying - literally starving to death - because they cannot get the vital nutrition they desperately need.

https://news.sky.com/story/newborn-babies-now-have-little-chance-of-survival-in-gaza-hospital-director-warns-13162972#:~:text=Mothers%20are%20so%20malnourished%20they,vital%20nutrition%20they%20desperately%20need.

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TheABC · 05/07/2024 23:47

Mass starvation with no possibility of stopping or surrendering.
It's atrocious.

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 05/07/2024 09:55

HowIrresponsible · 04/07/2024 19:11

Babies didn't vote for the Nazi party either nor did the babies of Hiroshima and Nagasaki support or vote in their government and yet...

So what you're saying no country is ever allowed to defend itself in case innocents are harmed who didn't vote them in.

Bloody ridiculous argument.

What's a bloody ridiculous argument, is comparing people who are trapped in a 25X5 mile concentration camp (where they have been trapped for nearly two decades, where they are now being bombed, shot and starved to death in their thousands) to WW2 Germany and Japan, which were two of the major global powers of the time! Also, as has already been pointed out to you, carpet bombing Germany and dropping nuclear bombs on Hiroshima/Nagasaki was horrific and would be warcrimes if committed today.

PeasfullPerson · 05/07/2024 09:28

This is shameful.

Auvergne63 · 05/07/2024 09:25

AhNowTed · 04/07/2024 22:15

@SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice

"Why are Palestinian mothers and babies not worth as much as Ukranian mothers and babies to some people?"

Racism of the worst kind, pure and simple.

Well they are brown and most likely Muslims, whilst the others are white and most likely Christians. Text book racism.

Liv999 · 05/07/2024 07:20

AhNowTed · 04/07/2024 22:15

@SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice

"Why are Palestinian mothers and babies not worth as much as Ukranian mothers and babies to some people?"

Racism of the worst kind, pure and simple.

Totally agree

AhNowTed · 04/07/2024 22:15

@SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice

"Why are Palestinian mothers and babies not worth as much as Ukranian mothers and babies to some people?"

Racism of the worst kind, pure and simple.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 04/07/2024 22:09

My SIL and DB just welcomed their first DC yesterday. Their newborn is safe in a functioning hospital. My SIL has good maternity care.

This is horrendous and reminds me of two years ago when Russia bombed the maternity ward of Mariupol hospital in Ukraine. I saw photos and videos of pregnant women in labour being pulled from under rubble, barely alive, some were killed, at least one newborn was.

We all condemned that. Putin has an ICC arrest warrant out on him.

Why are Palestinian mothers and babies not worth as much as Ukranian mothers and babies to some people?

BibiSuzanne · 04/07/2024 21:47

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The only hate on those marches comes from the counter protesters.
I am only clarifying this for others who read your post. You will believe what you want to believe. You make that very clear popping up every time anyone starts a thread about Palestinians.

WiseBiscuit · 04/07/2024 21:34

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poshsnobtwit · 04/07/2024 21:32

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 04/07/2024 20:16

Along with Israel dumping toxic and nuclear waste in the OPT causing extremely high rates of cancer among Palestinians of all ages.

This is so sad.

anotherlevel · 04/07/2024 21:26

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I came across this reel today.

www.instagram.com/reel/C7QNjqjIl1t/?igsh=MXVxMHVqcGk0N2Z6ZQ==

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 04/07/2024 21:20

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No they don’t. The marches say ceasefire now, stop the war, free Palestine…

All of which require Hamas to surrender and Israel to stop.

“Free Palestine” means free Palestinians from both Hamas’ rule and Israel’s occupation.

Hundreds of Jewish participants in these marches, I don’t think they would if these were hate marches.

keenforhelp · 04/07/2024 21:17

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SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 04/07/2024 21:10

keenforhelp · 04/07/2024 20:28

Rubbish. No calls for Hamas to surrender ,just for Israel to stop.

One sided .

A ceasefire includes both Hamas surrendering and Israel stopping.
Baffled as to why you don’t understand this?

Just Hamas surrendering doesn’t include Israel stopping
Just Israel stopping doesn’t include Hamas surrendering

A ceasefire requires both Hamas to surrender and Israel to stop. It is the only solution that isn’t one sided, unlike yours.

keenforhelp · 04/07/2024 20:28

Rubbish. No calls for Hamas to surrender ,just for Israel to stop.

One sided .

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 04/07/2024 20:22

keenforhelp · 04/07/2024 20:19

What nonsense is this?

Offensive.

You don't speak for me.

I weep and grieve for all innocent souls but Hamas started this present conflict. Where are the marches around the world demanding Hamas surrender ?
Deafening silence.

The marches have all been demanding a ceasefire…that message goes equally to Hamas and Israel because all ceasefires take both sides to agree.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 04/07/2024 20:20

TequilaSunsets · 04/07/2024 19:20

The bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were almost certainly war crimes, left unprosecuted only because the victors were the perpetrators. As was Dresden. So yes, where the impact on civilians goes beyond what is justified by legitimate and achievable military objectives, there are limits on the right of a state to defend itself, even if you accept that that's what Israel is engaged in doing.

And the rape of Berlin.

The laws didn’t exist then during WWII that exist today. They were intended to prevent future war crimes from happening although in practice all they have done is create a way by which war criminals can eventually be brought to justice if/or once they fall from power.

keenforhelp · 04/07/2024 20:19

Auvergne63 · 04/07/2024 20:13

I feel the same but we will never make them see what they do not want to see. It is a waste of time to try to.
I try to understand their mind set and I think it comes from fear; fear that acknowledging what is happening is wrong would mean for their belief system.
A Jewish psychologist said as such. I think she was right.

What nonsense is this?

Offensive.

You don't speak for me.

I weep and grieve for all innocent souls but Hamas started this present conflict. Where are the marches around the world demanding Hamas surrender ?
Deafening silence.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 04/07/2024 20:16

poshsnobtwit · 04/07/2024 20:03

Yes it's really important to remember this, this isn't new, it's only since 7/10 that it's being widely reported. Palestinian children have been at risk of death for decades, simply for being Palestinian. The blockades, sieges, calorific rationing polices and restrictions imposed by Israel have been the direct cause of malnutrition, anaemia and death of children (and their mothers in pregnancy).

Along with Israel dumping toxic and nuclear waste in the OPT causing extremely high rates of cancer among Palestinians of all ages.

Newborn babies now have little chance of survival in Gaza - hospital director warns
Newborn babies now have little chance of survival in Gaza - hospital director warns
Newborn babies now have little chance of survival in Gaza - hospital director warns
Auvergne63 · 04/07/2024 20:13

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 04/07/2024 19:59

I will try. But some things are so abhorrent I feel compelled to speak up.

I feel the same but we will never make them see what they do not want to see. It is a waste of time to try to.
I try to understand their mind set and I think it comes from fear; fear that acknowledging what is happening is wrong would mean for their belief system.
A Jewish psychologist said as such. I think she was right.

Liv999 · 04/07/2024 20:10

It's truly horrifying and no end in sight, I hope when this does eventually end Israel will be held accountable

poshsnobtwit · 04/07/2024 20:03

SighingMum23 · 04/07/2024 19:32

Palestinians have been enduring this torture for decades. It is not new and it has happened many times before. These poor mothers have had family members killed by Israel long before hamas.

Yes it's really important to remember this, this isn't new, it's only since 7/10 that it's being widely reported. Palestinian children have been at risk of death for decades, simply for being Palestinian. The blockades, sieges, calorific rationing polices and restrictions imposed by Israel have been the direct cause of malnutrition, anaemia and death of children (and their mothers in pregnancy).

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 04/07/2024 19:59

I will try. But some things are so abhorrent I feel compelled to speak up.

poshsnobtwit · 04/07/2024 19:58

This is so incredibly devastating. Next to zero chance of life, let alone self determining. How utterly terrifying it must be as a mother, with the knowledge your child is at very real risk of starvation. Where is the humanity?
Can we please, please stop responding to posters who just try to deflect by derailing, on a thread about dying babies, nonetheless.

SighingMum23 · 04/07/2024 19:41

Scirocco · 04/07/2024 19:34

What's "bloody ridiculous" about thinking it's a tragedy that innocent lives are at risk when things could be done to reduce that risk?

The innocent lives lost in all conflicts should be a cause for sadness and reflection, not celebration. Countries have a duty to seek to minimise harm to innocent people in conflict situations. There are limits and rules even in war.

Exactly and there is clear evidence that these children, health care workers are being targeted.

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