Support for Palestine at Glastonbury

Well, logically, if there's no one left in Gaza because they've all been killed or driven out, they're no longer a threat.

Don't you think there's a response in between doing nothing and genocide?

How is killing and brutalising tens of thousands of civilians defending anyone?

So what would be a "legitimate response to what happened" then? Bear in mind that what happened was a neighbouring government force attacked a country and murdered, raped, tortured,burnt alive, and kidnapped civilians in their homes,on the streets and at a music festival. What do you think, say, the US would do about that if it happened to them, for example? What are Israel supposed to do exactly? Seems like a lot of people expect them to do nothing while a literal terrorist group vow to wipe them from existence, even now they say they won't stop. Are they supposed to just not fight back and not exist anymore or something?

So what would be a "legitimate response to what happened" then? Bear in mind that what happened was a neighbouring government force attacked a country and murdered, raped, tortured,burnt alive, and kidnapped civilians in their homes,on the streets and at a music festival. What do you think, say, the US would do about that if it happened to them, for example? What are Israel supposed to do exactly? Seems like a lot of people expect them to do nothing while a literal terrorist group vow to wipe them from existence, even now they say they won't stop. Are they supposed to just not fight back and not exist anymore or something?

So what would be a "legitimate response to what happened" then? Bear in mind that what happened was a neighbouring government force attacked a country and murdered, raped, tortured,burnt alive, and kidnapped civilians in their homes,on the streets and at a music festival. What do you think, say, the US would do about that if it happened to them, for example? What are Israel supposed to do exactly? Seems like a lot of people expect them to do nothing while a literal terrorist group vow to wipe them from existence, even now they say they won't stop. Are they supposed to just not fight back and not exist anymore or something?

with no sense of irony that it started with a massacre of innocent people at a music festival.

Quite.

Some people think that killing tens of thousands of civilians in response to that, not to mention destroying their homes and denying them food, water and medical aid is not a legitimate response to what happened.

And that's a reasonable opinion to hold. Some people can see that both actions are wrong.

@cupcaske123 of course he has every right to say what he likes. Its his choice of priority & ommission that I am commenting on. Expressing solidarity with the families of those murdered & kidnapped at a music festival would take less than a minute. You are choosing to minimise the worst atrocity against jewish people since the Holocaust as a 'nuance'.

Why are you expecting a complex discussion of conflict in the ME from a pop star during their set?

I imagine that with limited time, during a set, he didn't have time to bring in every nuance.

A music festival massacre which included hostage-taking, isn't a "nuance".

I imagine that with limited time, during a set, he didn't have time to bring in every nuance.

Glastonbury is a music festival and he didn't so much as mention there had been an actual massacre at another music festival in the last year. He could quite easily have highlighted concern for the awful situation in Gaza while also acknowledging Nova, a music festival, at Glastonbury, a music festival.

Why are you expecting a complex discussion of conflict in the ME from a pop star during their set?

But thats the point, he didn't say that did he? He just said it was 'unfair' & asked who was pro-Palestine with no acknowledgement of the lives lost at a music festival or those still held hostage or the complexity of what being 'pro-Palestine' might mean. It was simplistic rabble rousing.

Actually, yes, away from places like this literally every conversation I have had with a 'Pro-Israeli' has been very rounded & talked about various aspects the horrors of the conflict as a whole. This was his comment on the conflict from the stage at a music festival - a relevant context to mention the massacre of innocent people at a music festival. Stop with the faux naivety.

Do pro Israelis mention the people of Gaza every time they talk about the hostages or the massacre in October? Are you upset that they don't?

Seems like many artists are expressing their support for the Palestine country during this festival

Of course its 'controversial' not to mention the massacre & the hostages in the context of a music festival.

We have no way of knowing. Its an odd thing to miss out, isn't it,? Especially as the hostages are still being held.

What a silly, shallow commentary on the conflict with no sense of irony that it started with a massacre of innocent people at a music festival. Anyway, how do we vote Hamas out next week?

What's happening in Gaza is unfair though isn't it? Sending solidarity to those who have been under siege for 8 months is reasonable. Do you think he agrees with what happened in October? I doubt it.