Disgusting comments like this normalised

Accusers of antisemitism definitely know the difference between military and civilian targets.

Antisemites definitely know which state is the Jewish one.

You’ve tried to pass protest against genocide by military personnel of various religious persuasions off as antisemitism.

You've tried to shut down a discussion about anti semetism because 'genocide'.

I was talking about Northern Ireland.

There is an awful lot of intelligent ways to criticise support for Palestine in NI. I would not agree with an element of this support myself but it’s not antisemitism that is behind it.

On Ireland, it's utterly unsurprising that it has a big antisemitism problem. Who needs actual Jews when you have a deeply Catholic culture combined with a modern nationalism that strongly identifies with postcolonialism?

What Ireland is this you speak of?

Talking of deliberate strawman representation, you literally just wrote this: "Anyone twisted enough to believe and suggest genocide is somehow a lesser evil than protesting against it because that equates to supporting the total wiping out of a country is either an utter moron devoid of empathy."

I don’t think you understand what has been broken.

Denial, accusation and deliberate strawman misrepresentation. The best anyone’s going to get here on this.

Anyone twisted enough to believe and suggest genocide is somehow a lesser evil than protesting against it because that equates to supporting the total wiping out of a country is either an utter moron devoid of empathy

Spectacularly missing the point....but if in doubt, just say genocide.

That's a lot of words to say you don't care about Jews, sraildonasfraug.

On Ireland, it's utterly unsurprising that it has a big antisemitism problem. Who needs actual Jews when you have a deeply Catholic culture combined with a modern nationalism that strongly identifies with postcolonialism?

You don't appear to understand what is being written.

Anyone twisted enough to believe and suggest genocide is somehow a lesser evil than protesting against it because that equates to supporting the total wiping out of a country is either an utter moron devoid of empathy.

Even more so when the country in question is actively and openly engaged in doing exactly that to another.

This constantly playing and replaying of the victim card by disingenuous individuals in defence of longstanding and now disproportionately escalated aggression from a multi-faith nation of illegal land-grabbers are the actual disgusting comments in this despicable victim-blaming by gaslight thread.

It certainly does.

* support for Palestinian’s is very much rooted in a shared sense of solidarity over the fight over decolonisation.*

If this is true then it suggests a staggering lack of knowledge and understanding of the history of that part of the middle east.

Then what you're saying is totally irrelevant.

If “reprehensible” is no longer a word that can be used to define bad-faith semantics being convoluted to justify the horrors that continue to appear on our tv screens day and night since last October, then perhaps it’s the word “humanity” that needs redefining.

How does one even achieve such levels of brutal ignorance without self-loathing?

I explained the background of Palestinian support in NI. I can’t even remember what she said she chanted.

You jumped in to defend @poshsnobtwit 's chanting of terrorist slogans.

@noblegiraffe
Uhuh, but support for Palestinians and chanting terrorist slogans about wiping out Israel really should be two different things, shouldn't they?

Yes absolutely, they are two different things. I definitely don’t want to wipe out Israel. I’m not chanting anything of. Very much pro peace here.

Your barking up
the wrong tree. Has anything that I said indicated that I want to wipe out a people?

you wanted intellectual reasoning about the marches in NI specially and I gave you it. I would ague that marches in the Republic of Ireland are rooted in something similar but also different at the same time as the memory of occupation is obviously less raw here.

Uhuh, but support for Palestinians and chanting terrorist slogans about wiping out Israel really should be two different things, shouldn't they?

And it's not just in Ireland that they're chanting it.

It's weird, don't you think? The chanting of terrorist slogans about wiping out a country, and the attempts to justify it by pretending that it's not a terrorist slogan when it's you chanting it?

See also: calls to globalise the intifada which really aren't asking for terrorist attacks.

it’s my understanding that historically their were Jews in these Middle Eastern countries who were driven out . There is a historical hostility to Israel in the Middle East.

The situation is not comparable - the root of the support for both Israel and Palestine there is completely different.

This is just a fact.

I visited family in April and there are Israeli flags in unionist areas and Palestinian ones in republican areas. It’s like a new colour on an old conflict.

Do you think that just because there are only a few Jewish people somewhere there can't be anti-Semitism? There are very few in places like Yemen and Syria and Afghanistan, do you think anti-Semitism is not a problem in these countries?

Who is standing with the Israeli administration?

If @poshsnobtwit is living in Northern Ireland @noblegiraffe and apologizes if I got that wrong - but support for Palestinian’s is very much rooted in a shared sense of solidarity over the fight over decolonisation. Mainly white faces are flying Israeli flags in unionist areas also and they say they are standing with Israel in solidarity against terrorism.

62 people identified as Jewish in the last Northern Ireland census. I just don’t think the flags/marching/statements there have anything to do with antisemitism,