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Israeli army strapped wounded Palestinian to jeep

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pandasorous · 23/06/2024 07:24

just going to leave this here....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjqq5n8911do

if you have nothing compassionate to say, feel free to move on and not comment on this thread. feel sick to my stomach

Video showing Palestinian man strapped to front of jeep

Israeli army strapped wounded Palestinian to jeep

The Israeli military says the man was a suspect in a raid in the West Bank, but its forces violated protocol.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjqq5n8911do

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Livelovebehappy · 24/06/2024 20:26

SummerFeverVenice · 24/06/2024 19:46

A sickening incident.

His family wanted to call an ambulance, but the IDF beat him, swung him onto the jeep hood, strapped him down and drove off despite his critical injuries. The hot hood of the jeep burned his shirtless back. They were not quickly taking him to a hospital or to get medical attention. The video shows them driving past no fewer than 3 ambulances. The ambulances can’t stop IDF vehicles, the RC medics and ambulances are often shot at themselves.

The soldiers drove back and forth with him on their hood for at least 20mins according to the victim. The IDF then stopped and dumped him to the ground by unstrapping him and pushing him off the hood, so he was again injured falling from the hood to the ground. The IDF then let RC medics who had been trailing them approach take the man to hospital.

This is so obviously not justified in any way that the IDF has condemned their own actions in this.

Come on….this narrative came from the mouth of the ‘victim’. And we are really supposed to believe this? The story when it initially came out, was told by Palestinian witnesses, but seems to have been somewhat elaborated a tad, as the stories don’t match.

SummerFeverVenice · 24/06/2024 20:25

ForKookyPoet · 24/06/2024 20:21

You mean apart from firing weapons at the IDF, among other things?

No, I mean they have not been charged with breaking any law.

Any law

As in they have broken no law whatsoever

AhNowTed · 24/06/2024 20:24

@ConnieCounter

"No such thing as an innocent Palestinian in your world, eh?"

Sure according to another thread they've all got copies of Mein Kamph 😂

ConnieCounter · 24/06/2024 20:21

ForKookyPoet · 24/06/2024 20:21

You mean apart from firing weapons at the IDF, among other things?

No such thing as an innocent Palestinian in your world, eh?

ForKookyPoet · 24/06/2024 20:21

SummerFeverVenice · 24/06/2024 20:18

Thousands of Palestinians, around 3,500, are currently held in indefinite administrative detention where they have not been charged with breaking any law.

You mean apart from firing weapons at the IDF, among other things?

AhNowTed · 24/06/2024 20:20

@Livelovebehappy

"There are no Palestinian hostages. They’re prisoners, locked up for breaking the law."

Is this a joke.

You can't be ignorant of administrative detention, which allows Israel to imprison Palestinians without charge or trial.

In there thousands.

Men, women and children.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67600015.amp

www.btselem.org/administrative_detention/statistics

www.npr.org/2023/12/01/1216643555/thousands-of-palestinians-are-held-without-charge-under-israeli-detention-policy

ForKookyPoet · 24/06/2024 20:19

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SummerFeverVenice · 24/06/2024 20:18

Livelovebehappy · 24/06/2024 20:13

There are no Palestinian hostages. They’re prisoners, locked up for breaking the law. And I recall that many more Palestinians prisoners were released than there were Israeli hostages released since 7th October.

Thousands of Palestinians, around 3,500, are currently held in indefinite administrative detention where they have not been charged with breaking any law.

EasterIssland · 24/06/2024 20:16

Livelovebehappy · 24/06/2024 20:13

There are no Palestinian hostages. They’re prisoners, locked up for breaking the law. And I recall that many more Palestinians prisoners were released than there were Israeli hostages released since 7th October.

Seems like those you’re accusing of breaking the law without any proof of it are not the only ones that are breaking the law
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/11/israel-opt-horrifying-cases-of-torture-and-degrading-treatment-of-palestinian-detainees-amid-spike-in-arbitrary-arrests/

there are 10k Palestinians in Israel prisons, releasing a few hundred doesn’t change much the scenario

Israel/OPT: Horrifying cases of torture and degrading treatment of Palestinian detainees amid spike in arbitrary arrests  

Israeli authorities have dramatically increased their use of administrative detention, a form of arbitrary detention, of Palestinians across the occupied West Bank; extended emergency measures that facilitate inhuman and degrading treatment of prisoner...

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/11/israel-opt-horrifying-cases-of-torture-and-degrading-treatment-of-palestinian-detainees-amid-spike-in-arbitrary-arrests

ConnieCounter · 24/06/2024 20:16

Livelovebehappy · 24/06/2024 20:13

There are no Palestinian hostages. They’re prisoners, locked up for breaking the law. And I recall that many more Palestinians prisoners were released than there were Israeli hostages released since 7th October.

The IDF rounds up and detains people all the time. Many of those detainees are completely innocent and there have been serious allegations of mistreatment, torture and sexual violence. I'm surprised you're not aware of this as someone who seems to have an interest in the region.

Livelovebehappy · 24/06/2024 20:13

Liv999 · 24/06/2024 15:45

Maybe israel will release the Palestinian hostages too? That would also be nice, also you're deluded if you think Netanyahu will stop the war once the hostages are released, he doesn't give a damn about any hostages

There are no Palestinian hostages. They’re prisoners, locked up for breaking the law. And I recall that many more Palestinians prisoners were released than there were Israeli hostages released since 7th October.

Liv999 · 24/06/2024 20:10

EasterIssland · 24/06/2024 20:01

unfortunately they’d still

  1. Deny it
  2. Justify it
  3. Both

Sadly yes

ConnieCounter · 24/06/2024 20:07

Notaflippinclue · 24/06/2024 20:00

It's a war for goodness sake

First of all, there's no war in the West Bank. Secondly, there are rules of war and this breaks those rules.

EasterIssland · 24/06/2024 20:01

Mellowdramadrama · 24/06/2024 19:55

I hope all those on this thread who have been trying and failing to excuse this behaviour by the IDF read this

unfortunately they’d still

  1. Deny it
  2. Justify it
  3. Both
Notaflippinclue · 24/06/2024 20:00

It's a war for goodness sake

ForKookyPoet · 24/06/2024 19:57

Mellowdramadrama · 24/06/2024 19:55

I hope all those on this thread who have been trying and failing to excuse this behaviour by the IDF read this

More trying to shame people?

Liv999 · 24/06/2024 19:56

SummerFeverVenice · 24/06/2024 19:46

A sickening incident.

His family wanted to call an ambulance, but the IDF beat him, swung him onto the jeep hood, strapped him down and drove off despite his critical injuries. The hot hood of the jeep burned his shirtless back. They were not quickly taking him to a hospital or to get medical attention. The video shows them driving past no fewer than 3 ambulances. The ambulances can’t stop IDF vehicles, the RC medics and ambulances are often shot at themselves.

The soldiers drove back and forth with him on their hood for at least 20mins according to the victim. The IDF then stopped and dumped him to the ground by unstrapping him and pushing him off the hood, so he was again injured falling from the hood to the ground. The IDF then let RC medics who had been trailing them approach take the man to hospital.

This is so obviously not justified in any way that the IDF has condemned their own actions in this.

Vile

Mellowdramadrama · 24/06/2024 19:55

SummerFeverVenice · 24/06/2024 19:46

A sickening incident.

His family wanted to call an ambulance, but the IDF beat him, swung him onto the jeep hood, strapped him down and drove off despite his critical injuries. The hot hood of the jeep burned his shirtless back. They were not quickly taking him to a hospital or to get medical attention. The video shows them driving past no fewer than 3 ambulances. The ambulances can’t stop IDF vehicles, the RC medics and ambulances are often shot at themselves.

The soldiers drove back and forth with him on their hood for at least 20mins according to the victim. The IDF then stopped and dumped him to the ground by unstrapping him and pushing him off the hood, so he was again injured falling from the hood to the ground. The IDF then let RC medics who had been trailing them approach take the man to hospital.

This is so obviously not justified in any way that the IDF has condemned their own actions in this.

I hope all those on this thread who have been trying and failing to excuse this behaviour by the IDF read this

ScrollingLeaves · 24/06/2024 19:53

Hedgeoffressian · 24/06/2024 18:58

How do you know the ambulance was actually there? It would be so easy to photoshop into the picture.

I think the BBC have people whose job it is to check photos and videos for interference.

SummerFeverVenice · 24/06/2024 19:46

A sickening incident.

His family wanted to call an ambulance, but the IDF beat him, swung him onto the jeep hood, strapped him down and drove off despite his critical injuries. The hot hood of the jeep burned his shirtless back. They were not quickly taking him to a hospital or to get medical attention. The video shows them driving past no fewer than 3 ambulances. The ambulances can’t stop IDF vehicles, the RC medics and ambulances are often shot at themselves.

The soldiers drove back and forth with him on their hood for at least 20mins according to the victim. The IDF then stopped and dumped him to the ground by unstrapping him and pushing him off the hood, so he was again injured falling from the hood to the ground. The IDF then let RC medics who had been trailing them approach take the man to hospital.

This is so obviously not justified in any way that the IDF has condemned their own actions in this.

ConnieCounter · 24/06/2024 19:29

Hedgeoffressian · 24/06/2024 18:58

How do you know the ambulance was actually there? It would be so easy to photoshop into the picture.

It's a video? Did you not look at it before swooping in to cast doubt on its veracity?

Liv999 · 24/06/2024 19:15

EasterIssland · 24/06/2024 19:04

have you even clicked on the link?
regardless of that, as per IDF words those idf members who did this were not following IDFs values.

Edited

Of course they weren't

EasterIssland · 24/06/2024 19:04

Hedgeoffressian · 24/06/2024 18:58

How do you know the ambulance was actually there? It would be so easy to photoshop into the picture.

have you even clicked on the link?
regardless of that, as per IDF words those idf members who did this were not following IDFs values.

ForKookyPoet · 24/06/2024 19:00

Hedgeoffressian · 24/06/2024 18:58

How do you know the ambulance was actually there? It would be so easy to photoshop into the picture.

If you don't believe everything you see, you will be told shame on you. Yes, it is pathetic.

Hedgeoffressian · 24/06/2024 18:58

pandasorous · 23/06/2024 07:24

just going to leave this here....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjqq5n8911do

if you have nothing compassionate to say, feel free to move on and not comment on this thread. feel sick to my stomach

How do you know the ambulance was actually there? It would be so easy to photoshop into the picture.

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