Israeli army strapped wounded Palestinian to jeep

Wrong again.

It really is a shame that people (not just here, but in general) were so quick to say "he must have been a terrorist", "he deserved it" and to come up with all sorts of unlikely scenarios to try to defend the IDF (like seriously suggesting this was an appropriate way to transport an injured person to hospital)... But when it comes out that he was most likely an innocent man, and that others have reported similar treatment, none of those people have found the basic compassion for a fellow human being to express "oh, we got that wrong... yeah, that's not a good thing to happen to someone".

It goes back to the double standards experienced by Palestinians: if you see someone as less of a person than you, their suffering matters less and even when declared innocent, they're still guilty of belonging to that group, so it still doesn't matter as much what people say or do to or about them.

Cheers. As I said, people don't want to engage since news emerged that they had been excusing and encouraging the use of a civilian as a human shield. An innocent man who had been shot by the IDF in his relative's home, beaten and then strapped to a boiling hot jeep and driven around, obviously being denied medical treatment.

It doesn't upset my sensibilities. You aren't doing what you think you are doing. You are assuming people are an homogeneous bunch, we are not. Anyway as I said crack on, people won't bother to engage.

Did you read the whole thread? It was outrageous.

Victim blaming and dismissing war crimes is never OK and should be called out. I don't really care if doing that upsets some people's sensibilities.

One person made a suggestion I believe. Lots of people didn't @ConnieCounter but as with all these things there's the truth and what people say people say. Most said nothing. It's rightly being investigated.

It's tiresome and why many no longer engage. You do yourself no favours. It certainly doesn't help anyone. I occasionally bother but anyway you keep doing you and you'll go around in circles talking in an echo chamber. Goodnight and peace for all

https://thecradle.co/articles-id/25702

They were happy to engage until it was proven that the man was a civilian and that he had in fact unlawfully been used as a human shield. There were all sorts of frankly bonkers scenarios and slurs thrown around initially.

Now that we know the reports are true, there's silence.

I think that people don't engage so much anymore on these threads because they are echo chambers and are always having a go at people. What's the point.

Although can say that some actions are not condoned, no one listens and incorrect assumptions are often made.

People stop bothering so threads are mainly the same people repeating the same things. Nothing on here changes anything.

I believe that the vast majority of people condemn Hamas, don't agree with some of the actions of the IDF, understand Israel's right to defend itself, are horrified at the deaths of innocents, want peace, want terrorists to be held to account, want actions to be investigated when they need to be and accountability. Want the hostages to be released and maybe a 2 state solution.

I think people stop saying this now due to inability of people determined to misunderstand or twist. People visit some threads and avoid others.

Just an opinion, worth no more or no less than anyone else's.

Absolutely disgraceful behaviour.

So a new person chimed in with the usual justifications and made up scenarios, scenarios that have already been proven false. Didn't read the article, I see. Still total silence from the others, of course.

Horrific. 😢 I hoped Jamal Hamdi Hassan Ashour was already dead when he was ran over. I'm very sad to hear that he was alive when it happened. 💔 I'm also sorry to hear that he wasn't the only one the IDF done this to.

Little boys with too big toys and sick minds.

https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/6385

The most moral.....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw4y91032d1o

Well according to the interview, he says that after they’d shot him twice and he was laying on the ground, they saw he was an unarmed civilian and not a militant. They still decided to push away his family trying to call an ambulance, strip him to the waist and beat him. Throw him on the scorching hot jeep by swinging him back and forth, tie him down like a hunted deer. Then drive back and forth, going past ambulances for around 20mins like he was a trophy animal, before stopping (not outside his home), shoving him off the jeep so he fell to the ground and then leaving him for other civilians in his town to creep out and take him to a hospital.

You're right. You weren't there and as your username suggests you haven't got a flipping clue about what happened and who the civilian was.

You weren’t there. Fair point. The. Why make up stories about what happened? IDF has said the behaviour of the soldiers that took part doesn’t adhiere to their values. So even IDF are not happy with it but here you’re making up stories about something that didn’t happen to justify that did happen and that was wrong

Or someone concealing a weapon or a sniper - I wasn't there but from the tiny video clip who knows - every soldier in action must have to presume there are hostile forces infiltrating civilian situations as soldiers have found out to there cost

Yes, bring to question who exactly was the hostile in this situation.
The unarmed civilian or the armed military occupation soldier who shot him.

This is not what happened though. The jeep wasn’t surrounded at any point

A “hostile” is an adult aiming a lethal weapon at you.

So sorry, that was to

“Notaflippinclue · Today 13:29
How do you tell a civilian from a hostile?”

Even if he had been ‘a hostile’ as you put it, the IDF itself think this behaviour against their rules.

The IDF doesn’t want the world to think of them as being barbaric.