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Israeli army strapped wounded Palestinian to jeep

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pandasorous · 23/06/2024 07:24

just going to leave this here....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjqq5n8911do

if you have nothing compassionate to say, feel free to move on and not comment on this thread. feel sick to my stomach

Video showing Palestinian man strapped to front of jeep

Israeli army strapped wounded Palestinian to jeep

The Israeli military says the man was a suspect in a raid in the West Bank, but its forces violated protocol.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjqq5n8911do

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ForKookyPoet · 23/06/2024 17:17

AhNowTed · 23/06/2024 17:05

I cannot believe people are still trying to justify a genocide.

It's not genocide so people are still trying to swing the balance back the other way.

Livelovebehappy · 23/06/2024 17:16

EasterIssland · 23/06/2024 17:05

Do you know where this has happened ? Or are you saying all Palestinians are terrorists so they deserve whatever it happens to them ?

Where what has happened? If you’re querying my statement about the kidnap, torture and rape of Israelis on 7th October, then you need to study the media reports from the time, along with Hamas’s own admission. I’ve never said that all Palestinians are terrorists, but a lot of them certainly enable Hamas, and need to accept that by doing so, they are prolonging the war.

ConnieCounter · 23/06/2024 17:10

Livelovebehappy · 23/06/2024 16:50

You’re comparing a terrorist lead state with the UK? If another country sneaked into the UK, kidnapped, murdered, raped and tortured some young festival goers, I would hope that the UK would retaliate with force, and wipe out the terrorist group, and all those who shielded them, immediately. I would also hope that the war started by the terrorist group would not be going on 8 months later. Should note also that whilst it would be unacceptable to strap a prisoner to a vehicle in the UK, it would also be unacceptable to treat women with aggression and discrimination, amongst many other unjust laws against the Palestinian women. Can’t compare the countries, as there are so many huge differences between us.

Are you getting Gaza and the West Bank confused?

AhNowTed · 23/06/2024 17:05

I cannot believe people are still trying to justify a genocide.

EasterIssland · 23/06/2024 17:05

Livelovebehappy · 23/06/2024 16:50

You’re comparing a terrorist lead state with the UK? If another country sneaked into the UK, kidnapped, murdered, raped and tortured some young festival goers, I would hope that the UK would retaliate with force, and wipe out the terrorist group, and all those who shielded them, immediately. I would also hope that the war started by the terrorist group would not be going on 8 months later. Should note also that whilst it would be unacceptable to strap a prisoner to a vehicle in the UK, it would also be unacceptable to treat women with aggression and discrimination, amongst many other unjust laws against the Palestinian women. Can’t compare the countries, as there are so many huge differences between us.

Do you know where this has happened ? Or are you saying all Palestinians are terrorists so they deserve whatever it happens to them ?

ForKookyPoet · 23/06/2024 17:03

Livelovebehappy · 23/06/2024 16:50

You’re comparing a terrorist lead state with the UK? If another country sneaked into the UK, kidnapped, murdered, raped and tortured some young festival goers, I would hope that the UK would retaliate with force, and wipe out the terrorist group, and all those who shielded them, immediately. I would also hope that the war started by the terrorist group would not be going on 8 months later. Should note also that whilst it would be unacceptable to strap a prisoner to a vehicle in the UK, it would also be unacceptable to treat women with aggression and discrimination, amongst many other unjust laws against the Palestinian women. Can’t compare the countries, as there are so many huge differences between us.

💯

Livelovebehappy · 23/06/2024 16:56

EasterIssland · 23/06/2024 13:13

I’m going to leave this one for anyone justifying it

from idf:
The conduct of the forces in the video of the incident does not conform to the values of the IDF. The incident will be investigated and dealt with accordingly

im not sure why are many of you justifying something that IDF is not happy with.

Of course the IDF are condemning it, because they hold themselves to higher standards than Hamas. Hamas have no shame for what they’ve done. And never will. They and their people think it’s justifiable to rape, torture and murder innocent people. Their moral compass is set at zero. Hamas don’t even care about the Palestinian people they claim to represent, let alone have any remorse for what they’ve done to the innocent festival goers. The war can stop, if the Palestinian stop shielding Hamas, give them up to Israel, and release the hostages.

Livelovebehappy · 23/06/2024 16:50

ConnieCounter · 23/06/2024 14:16

You think it would be acceptable in England to strap an injured man to a vehicle rather than putting them in an ambulance? Or indeed putting them into the jeep? Really?

You’re comparing a terrorist lead state with the UK? If another country sneaked into the UK, kidnapped, murdered, raped and tortured some young festival goers, I would hope that the UK would retaliate with force, and wipe out the terrorist group, and all those who shielded them, immediately. I would also hope that the war started by the terrorist group would not be going on 8 months later. Should note also that whilst it would be unacceptable to strap a prisoner to a vehicle in the UK, it would also be unacceptable to treat women with aggression and discrimination, amongst many other unjust laws against the Palestinian women. Can’t compare the countries, as there are so many huge differences between us.

Betty000 · 23/06/2024 16:39

cheshirecatsmile · 23/06/2024 09:18

Report myself as well.
Disgusting comment.

Maybe they need to understand what Hamas are. What Hamas have done and how Israel is being bombed and Israeli people are displaced
But that doesn't fit the narrative

Oh stop it 🙄

ForKookyPoet · 23/06/2024 16:32

thankyouforthedayz · 23/06/2024 16:06

None of us knows what happened before or after this clip, or why none of the three ambulances in the footage intervened. But this is NOT how anyone, for whatever reason should be transported to hospital. It's an utter stretch to claim the motive was altruism.

Your last point negates your first point..

thankyouforthedayz · 23/06/2024 16:06

None of us knows what happened before or after this clip, or why none of the three ambulances in the footage intervened. But this is NOT how anyone, for whatever reason should be transported to hospital. It's an utter stretch to claim the motive was altruism.

ForKookyPoet · 23/06/2024 14:49

EasterIssland · 23/06/2024 14:44

and that the victim was Palestinian.

Why are you goading?

EasterIssland · 23/06/2024 14:44

ConnieCounter · 23/06/2024 14:41

So what makes it OK then? The fact that the IDF did it?

and that the victim was Palestinian.

ConnieCounter · 23/06/2024 14:41

ForKookyPoet · 23/06/2024 14:40

Nice try. It's not the nationality, I'm drawing reference to. However, if you think the infrastructure of the ME compares to the UK, fill your boots.

So what makes it OK then? The fact that the IDF did it?

ForKookyPoet · 23/06/2024 14:40

ConnieCounter · 23/06/2024 14:39

Surely it's wrong regardless of the nationality of the person being used as a human shield?

Nice try. It's not the nationality, I'm drawing reference to. However, if you think the infrastructure of the ME compares to the UK, fill your boots.

ConnieCounter · 23/06/2024 14:39

ForKookyPoet · 23/06/2024 14:26

This didn't happen in England, though did it? You're not comparing like for like.

Surely it's wrong regardless of the nationality of the person being used as a human shield?

Scirocco · 23/06/2024 14:35

Maybe we could increase ambulance capacity in the UK by doing similar - strap a couple of extra folk onto the bonnet and off we go.

I suspect PALS might get a few complaints.

I wouldn't strap a dog to the outside of a vehicle, regardless of destination. It's disgusting.

ForKookyPoet · 23/06/2024 14:27

EasterIssland · 23/06/2024 14:19

Again:

The conduct of the forces in the video of the incident does not conform to the values of the IDF.

it doesn’t seem to be what they tend to do and what aligns with their values. Please stop justifying something that not even IDF is justifying

IDF have done the right thing in releasing that statement. They are used to constantly having their tactics questioned.

ForKookyPoet · 23/06/2024 14:26

ConnieCounter · 23/06/2024 14:16

You think it would be acceptable in England to strap an injured man to a vehicle rather than putting them in an ambulance? Or indeed putting them into the jeep? Really?

This didn't happen in England, though did it? You're not comparing like for like.

EasterIssland · 23/06/2024 14:19

ForKookyPoet · 23/06/2024 14:07

There could be all sorts of security/operational reasons for that. BTW, a snapshot can also include video footage. A snapshot being something that's left open to interpretation.

Again:

The conduct of the forces in the video of the incident does not conform to the values of the IDF.

it doesn’t seem to be what they tend to do and what aligns with their values. Please stop justifying something that not even IDF is justifying

ConnieCounter · 23/06/2024 14:16

1dayatatime · 23/06/2024 13:59

@ConnieCounter

"If the army raided a house in England and strapped an injured man onto a vehicle rather than getting him appropriate medical attention there would be rightful universal outrage."

Hmm a very selective interpretation.

Indeed you would be correct if they "strapped him onto a vehicle rather than getting him appropriate medical attention " except they strapped him onto a vehicle and took him to get appropriate medical attention.

You think it would be acceptable in England to strap an injured man to a vehicle rather than putting them in an ambulance? Or indeed putting them into the jeep? Really?

ForKookyPoet · 23/06/2024 14:07

EasterIssland · 23/06/2024 14:00

Why not allow the ambulances that are deal with it

There could be all sorts of security/operational reasons for that. BTW, a snapshot can also include video footage. A snapshot being something that's left open to interpretation.

TooBigForMyBoots · 23/06/2024 14:07

This is disgusting behaviour from the IDF. I worry for their families and communities as well as Palestinians.Sad

EasterIssland · 23/06/2024 14:00

1dayatatime · 23/06/2024 13:59

@ConnieCounter

"If the army raided a house in England and strapped an injured man onto a vehicle rather than getting him appropriate medical attention there would be rightful universal outrage."

Hmm a very selective interpretation.

Indeed you would be correct if they "strapped him onto a vehicle rather than getting him appropriate medical attention " except they strapped him onto a vehicle and took him to get appropriate medical attention.

Why not allow the ambulances that are deal with it

EasterIssland · 23/06/2024 13:59

ForKookyPoet · 23/06/2024 13:55

Nobody is justifying anything - they are addressing a snapshot of an image, designed to provoke outrage.

Image? It’s a video. Idf is not happy with how idf dealt with it. Apologies if some people aren’t happy with it either

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