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pandasorous · 2024-06-23T06:24:48+00:00

just going to leave this here.... [[https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjqq5n8911do https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjqq5n8911do]] if you have nothing compassionate to say, feel free to move on and not comment on this thread. feel sick to my stomach

Livelovebehappy · 23/06/2024 22:43

MissyB1 · 23/06/2024 22:02

They behave exactly like terrorists. I regard the IDF as being on the same level as Hamas or any other terrorist group, no difference.

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Your opinion. Which is irrelevant as they aren’t terrorists, and Hamas are. You can think like that, but it doesn’t make it fact as Israel aren’t on the list 🤷‍♀️

ConnieCounter · 23/06/2024 22:40

Livelovebehappy · 23/06/2024 22:37

No answers because it’s a stupid comparison. It’s hypothetical. It doesn’t ‘happen’ in England, and if it did it would be all around context of why did it happen.

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Yes it doesn't happen in England. Great point. I wonder why that is.

Why is it OK when it happens in the West Bank to Palestinians?

Livelovebehappy · 23/06/2024 22:37

ConnieCounter · 23/06/2024 21:43

Still no answers to my questions to those who say this is wrong when it happens in England but fine for Palestinians.

No answers because it’s a stupid comparison. It’s hypothetical. It doesn’t ‘happen’ in England, and if it did it would be all around context of why did it happen.

ForKookyPoet · 23/06/2024 22:18

Liv999 · 23/06/2024 22:04

War crimes are being committed every single day carried out in Israels name, Gaza is on the brink of impending famine, aid trucks not being allowed through, land unlawfully being stolen from Palestinians, etc etc etc all acts of terrorism from Israel what would you call it?

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More high school type naivety, with the usual soundbites.

ForKookyPoet · 23/06/2024 22:17

You can view them however you like @MissyB1 . Until Israel are entered as proscribed terrorists, they are acting in self defence. What a shame the real terrorists didn't give any thought to issuing warnings before they decapitated a farm worker, while he was still alive. Never mind eh, what was his life worth?

Liv999 · 23/06/2024 22:04

ForKookyPoet · 23/06/2024 21:43

Since when have they been on the proscribed list?

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War crimes are being committed every single day carried out in Israels name, Gaza is on the brink of impending famine, aid trucks not being allowed through, land unlawfully being stolen from Palestinians, etc etc etc all acts of terrorism from Israel what would you call it?

MissyB1 · 23/06/2024 22:02

ForKookyPoet · 23/06/2024 21:11

Except Israel are not terrorists.

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They behave exactly like terrorists. I regard the IDF as being on the same level as Hamas or any other terrorist group, no difference.

ForKookyPoet · 23/06/2024 21:43

Liv999 · 23/06/2024 21:22

They very much are

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Since when have they been on the proscribed list?

ConnieCounter · 23/06/2024 21:43

Still no answers to my questions to those who say this is wrong when it happens in England but fine for Palestinians.

ConnieCounter · 23/06/2024 21:38

poshsnobtwit · 23/06/2024 21:35

Israel has been murdering, torturing, raping, sexually abusing Palestinians for 70+ years under the guise of 'military strategy'. Government officials have said it is "for their own good". We should view this scene as an act of kindness 🙄

They were just trying to get him to hospital and tying an injured man to the front of an army jeep is just a totally normal way of doing that and not at all depraved and illegal under international law 🙄

poshsnobtwit · 23/06/2024 21:35

Israel has been murdering, torturing, raping, sexually abusing Palestinians for 70+ years under the guise of 'military strategy'. Government officials have said it is "for their own good". We should view this scene as an act of kindness 🙄

Liv999 · 23/06/2024 21:22

ForKookyPoet · 23/06/2024 21:11

Except Israel are not terrorists.

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They very much are

ForKookyPoet · 23/06/2024 21:11

Liv999 · 23/06/2024 20:52

Thats how many people were murdered, surely you know that? They didn't issue a warning because they're terrorists, same reason the IDF don't issue warnings, no difference, except Israel are commiting genocide

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Except Israel are not terrorists.

Liv999 · 23/06/2024 20:52

ForKookyPoet · 23/06/2024 19:41

Where do you get that figure from? Oh, so you're saying the Nova festival massacre is separate to the other barbarism on the 7th October? Just a shame the barbarians didn't think to issue any warnings before THEY attacked.

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Thats how many people were murdered, surely you know that? They didn't issue a warning because they're terrorists, same reason the IDF don't issue warnings, no difference, except Israel are commiting genocide

ForKookyPoet · 23/06/2024 19:41

Liv999 · 23/06/2024 19:16

So you don't actually know where the safe spaces in Gaza are? Do you know how many warnings the IDF gave before they bombed? That's what I asked, but I mean so long as there's people still standing in Gaza that's all OK, I mean Hamas only murdered 364 people at the festival in Israel, plenty more standing there too, don't know what the fuss is about...

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Where do you get that figure from? Oh, so you're saying the Nova festival massacre is separate to the other barbarism on the 7th October? Just a shame the barbarians didn't think to issue any warnings before THEY attacked.

ForKookyPoet · 23/06/2024 19:36

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In a nutshell.

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Liv999 · 23/06/2024 19:16

ForKookyPoet · 23/06/2024 18:34

Really? Well I guess that the whole population of Gaza, not being anything other than a pile of ashes, might be evidence. Are there people still standing? I believe so. More hyperbole.

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So you don't actually know where the safe spaces in Gaza are? Do you know how many warnings the IDF gave before they bombed? That's what I asked, but I mean so long as there's people still standing in Gaza that's all OK, I mean Hamas only murdered 364 people at the festival in Israel, plenty more standing there too, don't know what the fuss is about...

ForKookyPoet · 23/06/2024 19:01

AhNowTed · 23/06/2024 18:57

"Military strategy BUT not genocidal intentions"

The ICC and its panel, including Danny Friedman KC, a practicing Jew and
Ted Meron, legal adviser of Israel in 1967, and holocaust survivor, would disagree with you.

As do the many human rights and aid organisations in Israel, along with many Israeli scholars, vocal Orthodox Jews, and Israeli media.

But what do they know eh.

They are voicing their opinions, amongst a range of others. I have no problem with that.

AhNowTed · 23/06/2024 18:57

"Military strategy BUT not genocidal intentions"

The ICC and its panel, including Danny Friedman KC, a practicing Jew and
Ted Meron, legal adviser of Israel in 1967, and holocaust survivor, would disagree with you.

As do the many human rights and aid organisations in Israel, along with many Israeli scholars, vocal Orthodox Jews, and Israeli media.

But what do they know eh.

ForKookyPoet · 23/06/2024 18:54

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EasterIssland · 23/06/2024 18:50

ForKookyPoet · 23/06/2024 18:42

Military strategy BUT not genocidal intentions.

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whatever. Won’t bother anymore. There are posters that don’t deserve my time.

ForKookyPoet · 23/06/2024 18:42

EasterIssland · 23/06/2024 18:38

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna148008

https://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/latest/urgent-need-ceasefire-israeli-forces-attack-safe-zones-rafah

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/12/21/middleeast/israel-strikes-evacuation-zones-gaza-intl-cmd

you can call it hyperbole. I call it : IDF striked and killed on designated safe zones

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Military strategy BUT not genocidal intentions.

EasterIssland · 23/06/2024 18:38

ForKookyPoet · 23/06/2024 18:34

Really? Well I guess that the whole population of Gaza, not being anything other than a pile of ashes, might be evidence. Are there people still standing? I believe so. More hyperbole.

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna148008

https://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/latest/urgent-need-ceasefire-israeli-forces-attack-safe-zones-rafah

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/12/21/middleeast/israel-strikes-evacuation-zones-gaza-intl-cmd

you can call it hyperbole. I call it : IDF striked and killed on designated safe zones

SharonEllis · 23/06/2024 18:34

AhNowTed · 23/06/2024 18:23

@SharonEllis

"They are not the same thing. Genocide has a legal meaning. Your 'book' is irrelevant."

I am well aware of the legal meaning and its origins.

Israel is guilty of genocide, so I'm happy for my "book" to be redundant in this case.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-middle-east-68906919

Then you are aware that it requires a court ruling. Your opinion is of no consequence

Former ICJ head explains court’s ruling on Gaza genocide case

Joan Donoghue speaks to BBC Hardtalk about the case brought by South Africa to the ICJ over alleged violations of the Genocide Convention by Israel.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-middle-east-68906919