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Israeli army strapped wounded Palestinian to jeep

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pandasorous · 23/06/2024 07:24

just going to leave this here....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjqq5n8911do

if you have nothing compassionate to say, feel free to move on and not comment on this thread. feel sick to my stomach

Video showing Palestinian man strapped to front of jeep

Israeli army strapped wounded Palestinian to jeep

The Israeli military says the man was a suspect in a raid in the West Bank, but its forces violated protocol.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjqq5n8911do

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Liv999 · 24/06/2024 14:06

ForKookyPoet · 24/06/2024 14:00

I don't feel shame so quit that bullying tactic.

But why would speaking the truth be bullying? If you're going to be a snowflake you know where to go 😁

ForKookyPoet · 24/06/2024 14:00

Liv999 · 24/06/2024 13:57

They are wiping out an entire nation, that is genocide, it may take years to be proven but it will happen, shame on Israel and all who support them

I don't feel shame so quit that bullying tactic.

Liv999 · 24/06/2024 13:57

ForKookyPoet · 24/06/2024 13:50

I can't see what's difficult to comprehend about that. As much as some would love Israel to be official terrorists and committing genocide, they simply aren't.

They are wiping out an entire nation, that is genocide, it may take years to be proven but it will happen, shame on Israel and all who support them

ForKookyPoet · 24/06/2024 13:56

ScrollingLeaves · 24/06/2024 13:42

What's in a name? That which we call a rose, by any other word would smell as sweet

I hardly think Romeo and Juliet is appropriate here. However, a classified lost of terrorists is very much important. It determines how those terrorists are to be engaged with. Although according to MN, senior military personnel
should just invite Hamas round for a cuppa and a chocolate digestive. That would work.

ForKookyPoet · 24/06/2024 13:50

ScrollingLeaves · 24/06/2024 13:37

Yes. I got it from the logic of your statement.
”Until Israel are entered as proscribed terrorists, they are acting in self defence”

I can't see what's difficult to comprehend about that. As much as some would love Israel to be official terrorists and committing genocide, they simply aren't.

ScrollingLeaves · 24/06/2024 13:42

Livelovebehappy · 23/06/2024 22:43

Your opinion. Which is irrelevant as they aren’t terrorists, and Hamas are. You can think like that, but it doesn’t make it fact as Israel aren’t on the list 🤷‍♀️

What's in a name? That which we call a rose, by any other word would smell as sweet

ScrollingLeaves · 24/06/2024 13:37

ForKookyPoet · 24/06/2024 13:25

You got all that from me stating a fact about proscribed terrorists?

Yes. I got it from the logic of your statement.
”Until Israel are entered as proscribed terrorists, they are acting in self defence”

ConnieCounter · 24/06/2024 13:29

That interview is horrifying. What kind of people could treat an injured person this way? The heat of the bonnet of the jeep never even occured to me. It's torture what they did.

For those who said that the IDF were just being super nice guys giving him a lift to the hospital - does his account change your mind?

ForKookyPoet · 24/06/2024 13:25

ScrollingLeaves · 24/06/2024 13:09

@@ForKookyPoetYou can view them however you like . Until Israel are entered as proscribed terrorists, they are acting in self defence.

Are you saying that because Hamas is a proscribed terrorist organisation, and they committed a heinous terrorist attack on Israel on Oct 7, Israel can now, and into the future, do anything whatsoever to all Palestinians, in whatever quantify,

including children, women, and old men - including bombing the heads off them by the way - burning them, starving them, imprisoning them, destroying their universities, schools, and hospitals

and it is all
justified self -defence - certainly not terrorism - because Israel, the USA and U.K. etc are not proscribed terrorist organisations. So simple really.?

You got all that from me stating a fact about proscribed terrorists?

ScrollingLeaves · 24/06/2024 13:09

ForKookyPoet · 23/06/2024 22:17

You can view them however you like @MissyB1 . Until Israel are entered as proscribed terrorists, they are acting in self defence. What a shame the real terrorists didn't give any thought to issuing warnings before they decapitated a farm worker, while he was still alive. Never mind eh, what was his life worth?

@@ForKookyPoetYou can view them however you like . Until Israel are entered as proscribed terrorists, they are acting in self defence.

Are you saying that because Hamas is a proscribed terrorist organisation, and they committed a heinous terrorist attack on Israel on Oct 7, Israel can now, and into the future, do anything whatsoever to all Palestinians, in whatever quantify,

including children, women, and old men - including bombing the heads off them by the way - burning them, starving them, imprisoning them, destroying their universities, schools, and hospitals

and it is all
justified self -defence - certainly not terrorism - because Israel, the USA and U.K. etc are not proscribed terrorist organisations. So simple really.?

ScrollingLeaves · 24/06/2024 12:55

cheshirecatsmile · 23/06/2024 10:01

@pandasorous
😂😂😂😂😂
I do have compassion
Just not for terrorists 🤷🏻‍♀️
If that makes me a bad person so be it

Define the behaviour of terrorists, without naming a group.

Why does the Israeli army suggest this is against their policies and say they will investigate?

ScrollingLeaves · 24/06/2024 12:49

cheshirecatsmile · 23/06/2024 09:38

How do you think they also move wounded in combat
During any war including ww2.
It's also quicker to get help then ambulance sometimes
Making a molehill out of nothing and more IDF bashing

I have never seen this shown as a normal way to carry wounded people normally though. The Israeli army with all its resources including every kind of vehicle, must have a more suitable method.

EasterIssland · 24/06/2024 12:41

the man who was strapped to the bonnet of the car has been interviewed. It can be seen here
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8mIwR8I1Tb/?igsh=emE1M2ZidnI5MzF2

thanks to @anotherlevel who posted it on another thread

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8mIwR8I1Tb?igsh=emE1M2ZidnI5MzF2

EasterIssland · 24/06/2024 07:22

1dayatatime · 23/06/2024 23:17

@EasterIssland

"whatever. Won’t bother anymore. There are posters that don’t deserve my time"

Other posters are perfectly entitled to express different views - this is something in a democracy called a "debate" rather than an echo chamber.

Can you point at me where I say other posters can’t give their opinion? I don’t have to be the one replying to them. Take it as you want it.

Liv999 · 23/06/2024 23:31

AhNowTed · 23/06/2024 23:28

@Livelovebehappy

If only you could see that this didn't start on Oct 7th.

In the West Bank alone in 2023, Israel murdered 502 Palestinians, 120 of them children.

The deadliest year on record.

Israel bulldozes their homes, and stands by while violent settlers terrorise them and steal their land.

And this is before Oct 7th.

Do you expect them to smile sweetly and say you're welcome?

@AhNowTed exactly, some people are blind to what is actually going on..

AhNowTed · 23/06/2024 23:28

@Livelovebehappy

If only you could see that this didn't start on Oct 7th.

In the West Bank alone in 2023, Israel murdered 502 Palestinians, 120 of them children.

The deadliest year on record.

Israel bulldozes their homes, and stands by while violent settlers terrorise them and steal their land.

And this is before Oct 7th.

Do you expect them to smile sweetly and say you're welcome?

Liv999 · 23/06/2024 23:17

Livelovebehappy · 23/06/2024 23:01

If only you could see that the deaths of the innocent children since 7th October are the responsibility of Hamas. They started the war by kidnapping, murdering, torturing young people - not for any cause, but just because that’s what terrorists do. They’ve been using their people as human shields, hiding in hospitals and highly populated areas, refusing to hand over the hostages, redirecting any aid meant for the Palestinians to themselves.

Where have I said otherwise? Hamas is responsible for Oct 7th, Israel is responsible for every other atrocity carried out in its name since then, they are in no way the innocent party here, no difference in what Hamas has done to what the IDF are doing to innocent Palestinians every day of the week, moral army my arse..

1dayatatime · 23/06/2024 23:17

@EasterIssland

"whatever. Won’t bother anymore. There are posters that don’t deserve my time"

Other posters are perfectly entitled to express different views - this is something in a democracy called a "debate" rather than an echo chamber.

Livelovebehappy · 23/06/2024 23:04

AhNowTed · 23/06/2024 22:59

@Livelovebehappy

You know this happened on the West Bank right?

During a "raid" in Jenin.

This isn't Gaza. Or Hamas.

If you can't be bothered to read the report, here is a few paragraphs.

The Israeli military has said its forces violated protocol by strapping a wounded Palestinian man to the front of their vehicle during a raid in the West Bank city of Jenin.
The Israel Defense Forces confirmed the incident after it was captured on video and shared on social media. An IDF statement said the man was wounded in an exchange of fire during the raid, in which he was a suspect.
The injured man's family said that when they asked for an ambulance, the army took him, strapped him to the bonnet of their jeep and drove off.

The raid was due to intelligence IDF received that there were terrorists there - very likely that the terrorists were Hamas. So yes, it is linked to the situation with Hamas.

Scirocco · 23/06/2024 23:02

I do wonder why some people continue to try to find a way for this to have been ok.

An injured person was tied to the front of a vehicle and driven away like that. I wouldn't do that to anyone or any living creature.

It's cruel and inhumane, likely to exacerbate injuries, and unnecessary.

It's bad enough that even the IDF has issued a statement saying it wasn't ok. The fact that people continue to try to make excuses for it shows the extent of dehumanisation Palestinians face.

Livelovebehappy · 23/06/2024 23:01

Liv999 · 23/06/2024 22:48

@Livelovebehappy if they keep acting like they are won't be long, they've already been lumped in with the likes of Isis, Boko Haram etc as one of the worlds leading killers of innocent children, a proud day for Israel I'm sure

If only you could see that the deaths of the innocent children since 7th October are the responsibility of Hamas. They started the war by kidnapping, murdering, torturing young people - not for any cause, but just because that’s what terrorists do. They’ve been using their people as human shields, hiding in hospitals and highly populated areas, refusing to hand over the hostages, redirecting any aid meant for the Palestinians to themselves.

AhNowTed · 23/06/2024 22:59

@Livelovebehappy

You know this happened on the West Bank right?

During a "raid" in Jenin.

This isn't Gaza. Or Hamas.

If you can't be bothered to read the report, here is a few paragraphs.

The Israeli military has said its forces violated protocol by strapping a wounded Palestinian man to the front of their vehicle during a raid in the West Bank city of Jenin.
The Israel Defense Forces confirmed the incident after it was captured on video and shared on social media. An IDF statement said the man was wounded in an exchange of fire during the raid, in which he was a suspect.
The injured man's family said that when they asked for an ambulance, the army took him, strapped him to the bonnet of their jeep and drove off.

Livelovebehappy · 23/06/2024 22:53

ConnieCounter · 23/06/2024 22:40

Yes it doesn't happen in England. Great point. I wonder why that is.

Why is it OK when it happens in the West Bank to Palestinians?

It doesn’t happen because we haven’t started a war with anyone. We’re not in conflict with another country, so why would it happen? There was fighting between two sides. A Palestinian was injured during that fighting. There were other Palestinians there who should have carried him to safety, and arranged for medical assistance - it’s been said there were ambulances there already, so why ask the IDF to arrange for medical care, when they could have sorted it themselves? Is it the job of the IDF when fighting to be responsible for the hospitalisation of the opposing sides casualties?

Liv999 · 23/06/2024 22:48

Livelovebehappy · 23/06/2024 22:43

Your opinion. Which is irrelevant as they aren’t terrorists, and Hamas are. You can think like that, but it doesn’t make it fact as Israel aren’t on the list 🤷‍♀️

@Livelovebehappy if they keep acting like they are won't be long, they've already been lumped in with the likes of Isis, Boko Haram etc as one of the worlds leading killers of innocent children, a proud day for Israel I'm sure

Liv999 · 23/06/2024 22:45

ForKookyPoet · 23/06/2024 22:18

More high school type naivety, with the usual soundbites.

Yes anyone who doesn't believe any of this is true is indeed very very naive...

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