War Hezbollah and Israel

I've just seen this after typing out my post. Israel would have so much support if they chose to end their occupation there isn't a country in the West that wouldn't help in anyway that they could. These 57 countries are saying that they will too. Ending the occupation is the key to longterm peace. Nothing can persuade me otherwise.

The terrorist groups didn't just spring up out of thin air though did they? Hamas were born out of occupation and violence. Hezbollah were formed in response to Israels invasion of Lebanon. They attack so they attack so they attack so they attack.

At some point someone has to stop attacking. At some point the biggest flash point in the region - Israels illegal occupation has to end. Violence begets violence begets violence. So long as there is occupation, oppression and subjugation there is always going to be violence. Everybody knows this. You can cow the older people, beat the spirit out them both literally and figuratively but there will always be younger people(lots of them suffering from PTSD and trauma) who think that they can fight for a better life free of occupation.

Israel can kill and kill and kill but it will not solve anything. It won't make anyone safer. Deep down everyone knows this, history has shown this. Just as it is important to Israelis that Israel has a right to exist and continues to do so it is important to Palestinians that they have a right to sovereign state. All roads lead back to Israels occupation, they just do. Until it ends all of this horror and bloodshed and trauma of everybody in the region is pointless. It solves nothing and all sensible people would condemn violence from all of them and put pressure on all of the people involved in this to come up with a way for the occupation to end ASAP.

Those calling for a ceasefire may condemn any form of violence, but let’s be honest, a ceasefire would serve Hamas and Hezbollah and their Iran paymasters in their long term goal of destroying Israel. It won’t be used to move civilians (those useful shields - very sadly) but to regroup, reposition and attack. You aren’t dealing with rational leaders, but militant terrorists.

No we know a lot dont, please dont let us go over this AGAIN

😂 it only it was that easy to control terrorists they'd have done it years ago.

They can call for a ceasefire but Iran funds the terrorists so Iran is paymaster. Terrorists don't listen to other world leaders.

Well hamas attacked Israel. Israel didn't attack Iran or Lebanon or Yeman first. All the various terrorist groups attacked Israel. So they fight back or defend themselves or they carry out targeted attacks as on hezbollah but whatever they do will be wrong.

By the way where are all the posts with condemnation of Iran on here (apart from people who realise Israel doesn't want to be wiped out).

How do they propose to make Iran do want they tell them? It funds all these terrorist organisations. Not sure they'll listen.

Also we need strong democratic action near the election as Trump may take advantage of this politically. I think Biden has been drawn into something he has to support Israel with.

So we have a chance to destroy or at least push back years Iran's potential for developing a nuclear weapon. Given Iran's close relationship with Russia and it s well progressed nuclear enrichment program this is a clear and present threat to the world in the next few years. Iran has seen its proxies systematically destroyed and it's ballistic missiles in reality are impotent as the Iron Dome has thankfully done its job with aid from the UK and US. iran, humilated, and with huge deficiencies in its long term military and geopolitical ambitions will want this weapon. It has always been a fear of the world that an enemy of Israel may eventually possess it.

There is now justification for Israel to commit to doing this and we should be welcoming this for the long term peace and prosperity of the region not clinching in the face of terrorist aggression. WW2 showed us in the past that you can't cow to terror a d sometimes war is the only way to remove armed forces and ideologies which are hel l bent on destroying you. The Jewish people obviously know the consequences of that terror with a true genocide and I suspect Israel will do everything in its power to protect it's people in the long term.

Gosh, I was out for a few hours and how drastically things have escalated in such a short time.

I think Netanyahu's speech, in English, suggests this might be the Persians' chance to overcome the medieval theocracy that is destroying them.

I hope Lebanon rises up as well

Hope everyone I Israel is OK

Yeah, I heard the rockets explode live. Iran targeted the Netzarim Corridor in Gaza too. Large retaliation will trigger a response.

8 deaths from the Tel Aviv Jaffa shootings according to the Israeli media.

Iran attack no longer apparent, drones currently being intercepted sporadically. Iranian TV reporting ballistic missiles on the way.

Listening to my friend live in Jerusalem, as they are watching it live.

It's escalated.

Well Netanyahu wanted to heat everything up in the region and it seems his wishes are coming true.

Concerning the apparent imminent Iranian response, Israeli's have been instructed to stay close to shelters and the IDF has warned that they will not be able to shoot down 100% of the missiles.

There has also just been a mass shooting in Jaffa, 6 people (Israelis) are currently in critical condition with many more injured.

Me too!