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RedOrBlueOrYellow · 03/07/2024 10:18

@Vittuunterroristit

I know that point was addressed to another poster but I would say that I condemn people celebrating the kidnapping, rapes and murders on the 7th October and any people celebrating deaths of innocents in Gaza too. Both 'sides' have trauma and I believe terrorists are terrorists not 'terrorists'. Peace can be the only correct choice.

Vittuunterroristit · 03/07/2024 10:06

BelleHathor · 03/07/2024 09:02

Thanks RedBlue the reason I said could be "interpreted" is because the Tweeter Raina is Palestinian, so for her the occupation and settler behaviour are intertwined.

By all means call people "terrorist" supporters but that ignores the complexities and strength of feeling, not just by Palestinians but I've said it before the behaviour of the IDF has got many more young people straight up expressing sympathy, understanding and support for the "resistance axis".

If an Israeli was celebrating the deaths of Palestinian civilians would you defend them because to them the actions of Hamas and ordinary Palestinians are intertwined? Is there anything this vile woman could say or do you wouldn't make excuses for just because her parents came from Palestine?

And Hamas aren't "terrorists". They're terrorists.

ConnieCounter · 03/07/2024 09:30

RedOrBlueOrYellow · 03/07/2024 09:08

I'll also add rape, kidnap and murder isn't resistance its what it is.

Agreed. That's why I classify the IDF as terrorists too.

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RedOrBlueOrYellow · 03/07/2024 09:08

I'll also add rape, kidnap and murder isn't resistance its what it is.

RedOrBlueOrYellow · 03/07/2024 09:07

BelleHathor · 03/07/2024 09:02

Thanks RedBlue the reason I said could be "interpreted" is because the Tweeter Raina is Palestinian, so for her the occupation and settler behaviour are intertwined.

By all means call people "terrorist" supporters but that ignores the complexities and strength of feeling, not just by Palestinians but I've said it before the behaviour of the IDF has got many more young people straight up expressing sympathy, understanding and support for the "resistance axis".

Fair comments.

It won't end unless terrorist supporters realise terrorists are wrong and settler behaviour is stopped which is also wrong. Simplistic but both sides need to make major changes to their behaviour and attitudes to each other. Both Israeli people and Palestinian people should exist, no wiping out or threats to do so.

BelleHathor · 03/07/2024 09:02

RedOrBlueOrYellow · 03/07/2024 08:03

@BelleHathor I didn't know who Virtan was responding to but I get what's being said.

Thanks RedBlue the reason I said could be "interpreted" is because the Tweeter Raina is Palestinian, so for her the occupation and settler behaviour are intertwined.

By all means call people "terrorist" supporters but that ignores the complexities and strength of feeling, not just by Palestinians but I've said it before the behaviour of the IDF has got many more young people straight up expressing sympathy, understanding and support for the "resistance axis".

RedOrBlueOrYellow · 03/07/2024 08:03

@BelleHathor I didn't know who Virtan was responding to but I get what's being said.

RedOrBlueOrYellow · 03/07/2024 08:00

BelleHathor · 03/07/2024 06:36

I'm the one that Vituun was responding to. But, please continue as you were, the charm is contagious.

The interpretation is appalling. Terrorists aka ! Anyone who calls Terrorists anything than what they are kidnappers, rapists, murderers shows support for the fluffy little chaps.

Terrorists to most people are terrorists! I'm allowed to add my opinion to hers. That's how chat forums work.

BelleHathor · 03/07/2024 06:36

RedOrBlueOrYellow · 02/07/2024 23:11

Who are you?

You're not even on the quoted section or mentioned!

I'm the one that Vituun was responding to. But, please continue as you were, the charm is contagious.

RedOrBlueOrYellow · 02/07/2024 23:11

BelleHathor · 02/07/2024 20:42

I hope you're not suggesting I am a terrorist supporter?

Who are you?

You're not even on the quoted section or mentioned!

BelleHathor · 02/07/2024 20:42

RedOrBlueOrYellow · 02/07/2024 20:23

Awful. Terrorist supporters.

I hope you're not suggesting I am a terrorist supporter?

RedOrBlueOrYellow · 02/07/2024 20:23

Vittuunterroristit · 02/07/2024 11:12

Interpreted? Bloody hell. She called the innocent people running from terrorist attackers (sorry, "the indigenous people of Palestine" )cowards and you're making excuses for her?

I'm sure you'd be just as quick to excuse someone making similar comments about the murder of Palestinian civilians.

Awful. Terrorist supporters.

Vittuunterroristit · 02/07/2024 19:22

Kindatired · 02/07/2024 19:10

@Vittuunterroristit
Now you point it out, it’s clear- unless you play the video, though it looks like a blurry video of people getting chased off a farm and her caption refers to them as “settlers” which is inaccurate. The landscape also should have given a clue
Definitely pro-Hamas in this post - you are right
This twitter account really shows how young people with valid grievances are tipped into supporting terrorists and prolonging the cycle of violence

She thinks all Israelis are settlers, because Israel isn't a real country, it belongs to Palestine and must be destroyed.

And no, I'm not trawling through that vile individual's twitter account for "proof".

Kindatired · 02/07/2024 19:10

@Vittuunterroristit
Now you point it out, it’s clear- unless you play the video, though it looks like a blurry video of people getting chased off a farm and her caption refers to them as “settlers” which is inaccurate. The landscape also should have given a clue
Definitely pro-Hamas in this post - you are right
This twitter account really shows how young people with valid grievances are tipped into supporting terrorists and prolonging the cycle of violence

ConnieCounter · 02/07/2024 17:57

It mentioned that their family home was targeted. Another war crime.

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Vittuunterroristit · 02/07/2024 11:12

Interpreted? Bloody hell. She called the innocent people running from terrorist attackers (sorry, "the indigenous people of Palestine" )cowards and you're making excuses for her?

I'm sure you'd be just as quick to excuse someone making similar comments about the murder of Palestinian civilians.

BelleHathor · 02/07/2024 10:45

Vittuunterroristit · 02/07/2024 10:16

https://twitter.com/umyaznemo/status/1710641725788573896

Warning, it contains footage from the Oct 7th attacks.

Thanks, Raina is obviously extremely anti-occupation. Posts like her typing "Karma" need to be seen as it does reflect a sizeable (and growing) contingent who see/saw October 7th as an inevitable consequence of the Palestinian situation.

It also has to be remembered that tensions were high as a Palestinian teenager had just been murdered in Huwara. https://x.com/umyaznemo/status/1710260655322792041

That said, I can see how this could be interpreted as being Pro Hamas and could make people feel unsafe.

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https://x.com/umyaznemo/status/1710260655322792041

Vittuunterroristit · 02/07/2024 10:16

BelleHathor · 02/07/2024 09:08

That's a serious accusation. Can you provide proof please?

https://twitter.com/umyaznemo/status/1710641725788573896

Warning, it contains footage from the Oct 7th attacks.

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https://twitter.com/umyaznemo/status/1710641725788573896

BelleHathor · 02/07/2024 09:08

Vittuunterroristit · 02/07/2024 09:01

She also had a bunch of posts on Oct 7th celebrating it. Which is par for the course for some of the accounts posted here.

That's a serious accusation. Can you provide proof please?

Vittuunterroristit · 02/07/2024 09:01

She also had a bunch of posts on Oct 7th celebrating it. Which is par for the course for some of the accounts posted here.

Vittuunterroristit · 02/07/2024 08:31

Kindatired · 01/07/2024 22:07

@Vittuunterroristit
She seems to be a young Palestinian woman who has been forced to leave her home because of Israeli occupation. She clearly hates the state of Israel because of her personal experience . Her point of view seems to be that armed resistance is justified when peaceful protest is suppressed. She has little sympathy for IDF casualties. Some of her posts are insensitive but most seem accurate. Miriam Adeldon will probably buy the US elections. Hamas is well known to recycle unexplored Israeli ordinance into rockets that it fires back. Israeli soldiers have been shown behaving inappropriately with women’s underwear, but labelling an entire country as perverts is not on. The clip showing the funeral is definitely very disrespectful of the Jewish religion as well as her comments about the bereaved mother experiencing delusional thinking. The spitting images clip is also shared by Jews sans frontiers and it is accurate.
https://x.com/jewssf/status/940625093847404544
So while she is anti Israeli, insensitive and disrespectful of the Jewish religion and seems to be of the opinion that IDF are fair game I don’t see much specifically pro -Hamas.

I had a quick scroll through the account when the link was first posted and there was a post calling Hamas the real heroes, right next to one about Jewish refugees saying "we should never have let them in".

I wonder if an Israeli had been forced to leave their home because of Hamas and started posting Islamaphobic comments and celebrating the deaths of Palestinians you'd be quite as quick to leap to their defence.

Kindatired · 01/07/2024 22:07

@Vittuunterroristit
She seems to be a young Palestinian woman who has been forced to leave her home because of Israeli occupation. She clearly hates the state of Israel because of her personal experience . Her point of view seems to be that armed resistance is justified when peaceful protest is suppressed. She has little sympathy for IDF casualties. Some of her posts are insensitive but most seem accurate. Miriam Adeldon will probably buy the US elections. Hamas is well known to recycle unexplored Israeli ordinance into rockets that it fires back. Israeli soldiers have been shown behaving inappropriately with women’s underwear, but labelling an entire country as perverts is not on. The clip showing the funeral is definitely very disrespectful of the Jewish religion as well as her comments about the bereaved mother experiencing delusional thinking. The spitting images clip is also shared by Jews sans frontiers and it is accurate.
https://x.com/jewssf/status/940625093847404544
So while she is anti Israeli, insensitive and disrespectful of the Jewish religion and seems to be of the opinion that IDF are fair game I don’t see much specifically pro -Hamas.

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https://x.com/jewssf/status/940625093847404544

Vittuunterroristit · 30/06/2024 22:48

Kindatired · 30/06/2024 22:14

@Vittuunterroristit
Bernie Saunders is not a randomer- he would probably be in Biden’s place now if it weren’t for AIPAC. And he’s not pro Hamas- he is pro justice. And he’s Jewish himself and proud of it.
Miriam Margoyles was on National radio yesterday here in Ireland expressing her views - she’s a prominent international figure, also Jewish and proud of it. She is not pro Hamas- that is a libellous statement.

For fuck's sake, I know who Bernie Saunders and Miriam Margolyes are, and I wasn't calling either of them pro-Hamas.

I was referring to the umyaznemo.

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https://x.com/umyaznemo