Over 210 massacred at Nuseirat refugee camp by IDF

@10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne and people are then all surprised Pikachu face when a country that considers children acceptable targets for soldiers, ends up on a list of countries that allow not very nice things to happen to children...

Yeah. I'm ok, just confirmed what people actually think. I know other people who received messages across a range of forums and social media platforms. There are some very lost people out there.

There are always people who choose to make excuses and make up ridiculous scenarios about child terrorists/human shields than admit that Israel is in the wrong. Also, apparently one of the people the IDF listed as a terrorist killed in the attack on Nuseirat camp, is an 8 year old boy!

https://x.com/LeilZahra/status/1799876958064656583

"But, InshaAllah, they will be reunited with their loved ones in Jannat al-Firdaus."

🙏🙏

Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un.

I'm sure someone will be along soon to explain how the young children in particular could be armed terrorists or otherwise deserving of being massacred.

But, InshaAllah, they will be reunited with their loved ones in Jannat al-Firdaus.

You're right. The gloating messages I recently received as part of the celebrations confirmed that to me.

The names and faces of some of the people killed during the attack.

https://x.com/buffyslayer91/status/1800017157566407012

You are right, of course. Very sad to feel the need to do this.

Please don't engage with some posters. They deliberately write what they do to either goad or spread misinformation.
It is like banging your head against a brick wall.
We will never change their minds. If everything they have heard and seen hasn't yet then nothing will. They just like to play word games in order to accuse us of antisemitism or hate speech and delete our posts.

I don't know how individual Israelis can do this to children, but it seems a lot of them can.

Some of the IDF themselves have spoken out about it

Breaking the Silence is an NGO started by IDF veterans to speak out about the atrocities they have witnessed and/or taken part in. I'm not saying this absolves them, but I appreciate them for speaking out.

One of the things they have spoken out about is the IDFs use of Palestinian civilians as "human shields" to protect their soldiers from attack

Anyone who bleats on about "its their own fault, they knew what they were getting into etc etc" about a group of people, half of whom are children, who are killed by Hamas, and killed by the IDF simply because they were born in Gaza and caught between a fight not of their own making might like to read the word of IDF veterans who have spoken out. Perhaps their words will be more believable to some.

@MrsJackThornton in any other democratic country those responsible for abusing children in that way would be arrested for child abuse and behind bars themselves

I appreciate I have already answered this once, but your response that essentially boils down to "I don't care if 12 year old children are beaten, sexually assaulted and denied their rights because its not my child" to point out the rather obvious fact I should have done in my previous post

Those 12 year old children, as well as being denied the support of their legal parent or guardian also undergo the following as reported by Unicef:

Confessions from children are extracted by a mixture of sleep-deprivation, threats –of death threats against them or their families, sexual assault and solitary confinement- and physical violence. Confessions to be signed are often written in Hebrew, which most Palestinian children do not know

So you are right, if your 12 year old was Palestinian whether or not they had actually thrown stones would be a moot point. Because after being sleep deprived, beaten, sexually assaulted and put in solitary confinement they too might sign a confession in a language they didn't understand and then undergo more years of physical and sexual abuse whilst not being allowed to see you

If you really have no empathy for that, I cannot understand.

Regardless of whether your 12 year old would throw stones at a soldier or not name one other democratic nation that would imprison children? Children are safeguarded and protected not arrested, they are recognised as not being at the age of criminal responsibility. 13 up yes but they are, if the crime was serious enough, such as rape or murder put in young offenders institutions not adult prisons. For a crime of throwing stones? Slap on the wrist and a fine. Why is Israel so out of step with other democratic nations on this?

In a potential survival situation, if a stone was all they had with which to defend themselves, they might well try to defend themselves. Most people would - survival is a pretty strong motivator.

That's you assuming the guilt of all Palestinian prisoners. The poster who asked about this only presumed the innocence of 4 out of 500-700 children.

Many of whom are being held before trial. Apparently innocent until proven guilty does not apply to Palestinians

Yeah thats really the key take home message from my post 🙄

Was it really that hard to empathise for one moment with a Palestinian child or parent? Just for one moment

You seem lacking in understanding what children who have been subject to attacks etc their whole life might do.

Do you really think a 12 year old with PTSD might really react perfectly in every situation? Your moot point is so very very far from the actual point.

It might be your 12 yr old, if they just saw (you) their mother being shot in the head and all they had was a stone in their hands to try and defend themselves. Maybe?

But that's you assuming innocence of all Palestinian prisoners

@MrsJackThornton My 12 year old wouldn't be throwing stones at armed soldiers so it's a moot point 🤷🏻‍♀️

If it was your 12 year old daughter, arrested for throwing stones, you weren't allowed to court of support her, then she was put in military prison, raped, beaten, starved and denied medical treatment and you weren't allowed to visit, that would all be fine would it? Because the IDF aren't terrorists?

It seems to me that this is putting a lot of faith in the name and official designation, “terrorist”, rather than looking at comparable acts in regard to their effects.

37,000 of whom many are women, children and old men, killed in 8 months, with a death toll that has risen to 274, with more than 700 others injured, at the Nuseirat refugee camp alone in the just the last 24 hours, is not bad going for non-terrorists. And that’s without the mass destruction of schools, hospitals. universities, homes and general infrastructure.

This record is a long way from being beaten by Palestinian terrorists, heinous and monstrous though they have been.