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Israel added to the blacklist of those countries that kill children

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EasterIssland · 07/06/2024 18:15

This is the first time that Israel and Hamas have been included on this list, joining the ranks of Russia, the Islamic State, al-Qaeda, Boko Haram, Afghanistan, Iraq, Myanmar, Somalia, Yemen and Syria. The allegations against Israel mean that it is believed to be the first democratic country included on the list.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/un-adds-israel-to-list-of-shame-for-alleged-rights-violations-against-children-during-war-netanyahu-delusional/

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DuskyBlueDepartingLight · 08/06/2024 23:53

ConnieCounter · 08/06/2024 23:51

If saying that Israel kills children is hate speech then I give up 🤦‍♀️

That's not what you said. Which is why you were deleted for spreading the blood libel.

DuskyBlueDepartingLight · 08/06/2024 23:51

PearlKoala · 08/06/2024 23:50

I'm not deflecting. If you were talking about the deleted post then I didn't see it, I can't comment on it, you didnt quote it so it just looks like your post is a rant in response to the OP.

I'm responding to your post where you say that the UN is anti Israel and discredited. I don't believe that it is. I can see and I presume you can see the great harm being done to children. The UN are just saying outloud what we can all see and I am grateful that someone is.

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How convenient

ConnieCounter · 08/06/2024 23:51

If saying that Israel kills children is hate speech then I give up 🤦‍♀️

PearlKoala · 08/06/2024 23:50

DuskyBlueDepartingLight · 08/06/2024 23:44

Why are you deflecting?

Pointing out the obvious doesn't get deleted.

Hate speech does.

I'm not deflecting. If you were talking about the deleted post then I didn't see it, I can't comment on it, you didnt quote it so it just looks like your post is a rant in response to the OP.

I'm responding to your post where you say that the UN is anti Israel and discredited. I don't believe that it is. I can see and I presume you can see the great harm being done to children. The UN are just saying outloud what we can all see and I am grateful that someone is.

DuskyBlueDepartingLight · 08/06/2024 23:49

If you support hate speech, there's just no way you can be posting on this topic in good faith.

Catch yourselves on!

Dulra · 08/06/2024 23:46

DuskyBlueDepartingLight · 08/06/2024 23:31

The UN is anti-Israel & at this point totally discredited.

The point of the post was likely that hate speech is unacceptable.

And Mumsnet agreed.

Anyone in their right mind has an issue with the demonization of the sovereign state of Israel in a war against terrorists.

The UN is anti-Israel & at this point totally discredited.

Discredited by who? Who other than Israel considers them anti Israel?

DuskyBlueDepartingLight · 08/06/2024 23:44

PearlKoala · 08/06/2024 23:36

It may be discredited to you but certainly not to me and many others. The harm to children is clear to see the witholding of food and aid, the dismantling of medical care, the denial of an education, the destruction of homes, I'm sure we both agree that those in themselves cause great harm. I don't feel it is demonising to point out the obvious, I feel that to ignore it would show that people have lost their minds.

Why are you deflecting?

Pointing out the obvious doesn't get deleted.

Hate speech does.

MrsJackThornton · 08/06/2024 23:41

DuskyBlueDepartingLight · 08/06/2024 23:31

The UN is anti-Israel & at this point totally discredited.

The point of the post was likely that hate speech is unacceptable.

And Mumsnet agreed.

Anyone in their right mind has an issue with the demonization of the sovereign state of Israel in a war against terrorists.

I don't think the response to any terrorist attack should be the death of thousands of children

ConnieCounter · 08/06/2024 23:41

Sorry are people here unaware of the 15k+ children the state of Israel has killed in the last 8 months?

Why are you more outraged about this being said out loud than you are about all the slaughter?

PearlKoala · 08/06/2024 23:36

DuskyBlueDepartingLight · 08/06/2024 23:31

The UN is anti-Israel & at this point totally discredited.

The point of the post was likely that hate speech is unacceptable.

And Mumsnet agreed.

Anyone in their right mind has an issue with the demonization of the sovereign state of Israel in a war against terrorists.

It may be discredited to you but certainly not to me and many others. The harm to children is clear to see the witholding of food and aid, the dismantling of medical care, the denial of an education, the destruction of homes, I'm sure we both agree that those in themselves cause great harm. I don't feel it is demonising to point out the obvious, I feel that to ignore it would show that people have lost their minds.

PurpleChrayn · 08/06/2024 23:36

DuskyBlueDepartingLight · 08/06/2024 22:42

Stop. Spreading. The. Blood. Libel.

It's also a disservice to the people in Gaza when you use them to do this.

It undermines everything you've posted.

This.

Thank you.

DuskyBlueDepartingLight · 08/06/2024 23:31

PearlKoala · 08/06/2024 23:20

I don't understand the point of your post. Take it up with the UN if you have a problem with it 🤷🏻‍♀️

The list is intended to name and shame parties to conflicts in the hope of deterring violence against children. I can't see why anyone would have an issue with that, we would want people to speak out it it were our children.

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The UN is anti-Israel & at this point totally discredited.

The point of the post was likely that hate speech is unacceptable.

And Mumsnet agreed.

Anyone in their right mind has an issue with the demonization of the sovereign state of Israel in a war against terrorists.

Scirocco · 08/06/2024 23:27

PearlKoala · 08/06/2024 23:20

I don't understand the point of your post. Take it up with the UN if you have a problem with it 🤷🏻‍♀️

The list is intended to name and shame parties to conflicts in the hope of deterring violence against children. I can't see why anyone would have an issue with that, we would want people to speak out it it were our children.

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I suspect the poster may be interpreting the thread and presumably the opinions of the experts who decided to include Israel on the list, as feeding in to an antisemitic trope.

There have been antisemitic false accusations of blood sacrifice and child killing for many, many years, which is of course horrible. It is part of the reason why reports of crimes against children need to be carefully investigated.

In this case, I do think the inclusion appears based in reality. The list should also include a number of other countries, in my opinion, but what a dark day it is that an international ally of the US and UK is included alongside those others.

PearlKoala · 08/06/2024 23:20

ChickyBricky · 08/06/2024 22:48

Do they just kill children? Surely they eat them too, or drink their blood, or something. I mean, it's clear from other MN threads that they absolutely welcomed, and possibly staged, the pogrom of 7 October so that they could get their greedy Jewish hands on all that extra real estate. Or something like that. 🤷‍♂️

Just adding that I'm being facetious here. Posts are closely monitored and reported in bad faith by a few loud mouths determined to control the narrative, so I want to clarify my intended meaning in a way that wouldn't be necessary on any other MN forum.

I don't understand the point of your post. Take it up with the UN if you have a problem with it 🤷🏻‍♀️

The list is intended to name and shame parties to conflicts in the hope of deterring violence against children. I can't see why anyone would have an issue with that, we would want people to speak out it it were our children.

StSwithinsDay · 08/06/2024 23:14

Good. So they should be.

ConnieCounter · 08/06/2024 23:13

No they mainly bomb them to bits. There's plenty of video footage of them doing this literally today.

ChickyBricky · 08/06/2024 22:48

Do they just kill children? Surely they eat them too, or drink their blood, or something. I mean, it's clear from other MN threads that they absolutely welcomed, and possibly staged, the pogrom of 7 October so that they could get their greedy Jewish hands on all that extra real estate. Or something like that. 🤷‍♂️

Just adding that I'm being facetious here. Posts are closely monitored and reported in bad faith by a few loud mouths determined to control the narrative, so I want to clarify my intended meaning in a way that wouldn't be necessary on any other MN forum.

DuskyBlueDepartingLight · 08/06/2024 22:42

Stop. Spreading. The. Blood. Libel.

It's also a disservice to the people in Gaza when you use them to do this.

It undermines everything you've posted.

ConnieCounter · 08/06/2024 18:47

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ConnieCounter · 08/06/2024 13:04

Seems only right given they've killed and maimed thousands of children and are trying to starve thousands more.

They're also denying hundreds of thousands of children basic healthcare, food, safety, housing and education.

Liv999 · 08/06/2024 11:43

Superfoodie123 · 07/06/2024 22:30

Democratic? Lol

Exactly, nothing democratic about them, thankfully the world is waking up

PeasfullPerson · 08/06/2024 10:31

Good. Nobody should get a free pass to kill children, not because Daddy’s home, not because Hamas was near by, not because they are sitting all alone in a car pleading for help while surrounded by their dead family.

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Sue152 · 07/06/2024 21:30

It's just horrific that such a list even exists. The shame they should feel for being on that list. Unfortunately Netanyahu is a complete narcissist - no remorse, no empathy, never to blame.

That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.

That's exactly how Israel supporters respond to the atrocities that Israel commits, I particularly see a lot of it didn't happen, a lot of it wasn't that bad, it wasn't Israel's fault (it was Hamas's fault for using children as human shields somehow) and a hell of a lot of the Palestinians deserve it (I've seen 'FAFO' far to many times).

Noonecares245 · 07/06/2024 22:36

About f.time - better late than never though...next move: drag his sorry * to the international court!

Superfoodie123 · 07/06/2024 22:30

Democratic? Lol