Jerusalem day parade by settlers

I never said you were lying about being scared. I said you are minimising what is happening to Palestinians by making crass comparisons to marches in London.

I have never once on this board doubted that Jews are scared. My objection to your posts is pretty clear to read. You should be able to make your point without minimising the horrific, violent suffering of others.

If you don't feel that settlers are the same as London protesters then you probably shouldn't compare the two then be outraged when people take you at your word that you feel the two are the same.

Answer my question first - when did I call you anti-Semitic?

Great to see this interfaith march for peace even if only a small attendance.
Their take

In the eyes of the organizers of the interfaith march, the Flag March — which annually sees thousands of religious nationalist Israelis parade through Jerusalem, including through the Muslim Quarter of the Old City — has become a “symbol of violence and occupation” over the years, often marred by hate speech and violence towards Palestinians.
“We decided to create a joint march that sends the opposite message, one of peace, justice and equality,” said Rabbis for Human Rights director Avi Dabush, an evacuee from Kibbutz Nirim who survived Hamas’s October 7 terror onslaught.

Interfaith 'march for peace' held in capital, in counter to Jerusalem Day Flag March | The Times of Israel

A bit arrogant to think you know my opinion on settlers better than I do, no? A bit fucking rude? Your response to a post where I'm begging people to believe Jews when they say something is you telling a Jew they're lying?

I hope you can see the absurdity of that.

You clearly do need to educate yourself if you can compare armed people who throw Palestinians out of their homes, burn their farms to the ground, kill them, all with the protection of the IDF to marchers in London. It is minimising, it is really poor taste and it shows what you really think of settlers despite all of your 'I'm not defending them but.....' posts on this thread.

I DIDN'T SEE YOUR DELETED POST!!! As I already said earlier.

The flag parade is how they celebrate. The violence isn't, that's just thugs being thugs. You conveniently skipped the bit I said about the venn diagram and the actual purpose is a celebration of finally having access to our holiest site but that a lot of the people celebrating are the Israeli equivalent of EDL so carnage occurs. Just like it frequently does on St George's Day. I thought it would be quite obvious that not all Jews or Israelis participate in the parade though 🙄

And when the fuck did I say you said something anti Semitic? Stop alternating between appropriating and redefining words and putting other words in my mouth.

Yes I am comparing the two. They are a fair comparison in many, many ways.

I wasn't going to compare the two on here because I didn't want to come across as though I was trying to deflect or minimise but some of the posts on here are absolutely outrageous in their blatant hypocrisy which needs to be called out.

BELIEVE JEWS WHEN THEY SAY THEY'RE SCARED. If you can readily believe that Arabs in Jerusalem today were scared without even waiting to hear from them then believe us when we actually do speak to you as well. It's really not a big ask.

And I don't need to educate myself on settlers 🙄 Try reading the thread instead.

Of course you can and of course I don't decide what news sources are reputable and trustworthy. This website does it for me.
Daily Mail - Bias and Credibility - Media Bias/Fact Check (mediabiasfactcheck.com)
Reuters - Bias and Credibility - Media Bias/Fact Check (mediabiasfactcheck.com)
You are welcome.

No- but the people reading your comments will have a view on the source of your “evidence.” If you do in fact want to influence people - you should consider what sources they might think are reputable.

Or you can continue to post without actually wanting to influence or change people’s minds.

Are you honestly comparing armed settlers to the marches in London? Way to minimise the settlers behaviour and the impact that they have had on Palestinians for decades.

Try and educate yourself on how settlers behave and how they are protected by the Israeli government before making ridiculous, minimising statements.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/16/magazine/israel-west-bank-settler-violence-impunity.html

Yeah well I will consume my news how I like thanks. Nothing to do with you.

You don't get to decide which news sources are reputable and trustworthy - fortunately!

@Auvergne63 So glad you agree that telling somebody that they have made anti-Semitic comments is a serious accusation.

It is.

And MN agreed.

I was very worried about the comment - imagine if I had have said - and this is how Muslims celebrated X. The poster has conflated a national day with ALL Jews. It is anti-Semitic to say this as it suggests ALL Jews and not the Israelis here.

I'm just astounded by the blatant hypocrisy. We've been told for months that we're exaggerating when we say we as Jews don't feel safe in London (or other towns or cities) during the marches and it's been dismissed outright again and again and again. We've been told the marches are actually very peaceful and there's nothing to be scared of.

But today there is acknowledgement that actually, large marches are absolutely terrifying for those not participating. They're incredibly intimidating.

The fact that people only accept that when it's not Jews saying it is fucking shameful.

And no, I don't disagree that the march today was probably incredibly terrifying for those nearby. Because I'm not a massive hypocrite.

@Humdingerydoo do you disagree that they might feel unsafe and terrified? From an annual event that has been often accompanied by violence?

I haven’t seen any protestors armed on a Saturday over here. Have you?

Or is feeling scared only reserved for some and not the Palestinians?

Probably about as terrified as Jews have been in London on a Saturday for 8 months.

@stormy4319trevor I have seen that some arrests have been made. The video footage shows total chaos and so much violence. The German ambassador to Israel condemned the march and said the scenes 'speak of blind hate that these kids have been taught'
So quite strong words from the ambassador.

Some of these marchers are armed, and there may be more than 70 000 of them. It must be absolutely bloody terrifying for the Muslims and Christians. I hope they stay safe.

Enough already with the constant redefining of words! I'm fucking sick of it. Antisemitism is specifically against Jews not Semitic people. It's an utterly pathetic thing to do, trying to change the definition of words. People have already tried it with other words like Zionism, and yesterday someone was trying to change the meaning of the word terrorist. Just stop it. It's a fucking bizarre thing to do, to claim that anti-Semitism affects non-Jews too. Stop trying to take our words away from us. It's not even remotely ok.

I think it's for the best that I didn't see your deleted post as I suspect it would have driven me up the fucking wall - I assume you twisted my words from earlier to make it seem a lot worse than it already is? I was respectful enough not to make comparisons between todays march and other similar events as to not minimise the harm and awful things being done today so please be respectful enough to at least not twist my words and to in general just leave our words alone.

Just stop.

You will feel even more powerful when you master the art of posting your opinions, backed up by facts you have painstakingly researched from reputable sources. Try the Reuters news agency, highly reputable and trustworthy, unlike the Daily Fail.

When posters cannot counter argue in a factual way, they resort to throwing very serious accusations at others.