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Parkingt111 · 06/06/2024 12:04

Ditto

keenforhelp · 06/06/2024 11:48

You've got a real nerve haven't you.

Don't engage with me again, do not tag me.

I don't want to hear from you. Period.

Parkingt111 · 06/06/2024 11:29

@keenforhelp sure post whatever you want but as I said don't falsely accuse others. Like how you accused me of whataboutery when there wasn't any.

keenforhelp · 06/06/2024 11:15

Parkingt111 · 06/06/2024 11:10

Yes, exactly that.

See that kind of language is very inflammatory and I refute what you are saying 100%.

I will post what I like when I like -just like everybody does when I have something relevant to say .

Parkingt111 · 06/06/2024 11:10

keenforhelp · 06/06/2024 11:08

Falsely accuse???

Yes, exactly that.

keenforhelp · 06/06/2024 11:08

Parkingt111 · 06/06/2024 11:04

The only reason I pointed out your whataboutery is because you wrongly accused me of it first.
Otherwise I'm well aware of how threads in this section go, as are you.
If you don't like it then don't falsely accuse others of it.

Falsely accuse???

Parkingt111 · 06/06/2024 11:04

keenforhelp · 06/06/2024 10:56

Did you read the whole thread? Was I the first and only to mention the UK Protests?

No - all of us thought it right and relevant to make the link.

Out of interest, have you ever posted anything on other threads that was not directly relevant to the title?

The only reason I pointed out your whataboutery is because you wrongly accused me of it first.
Otherwise I'm well aware of how threads in this section go, as are you.
If you don't like it then don't falsely accuse others of it.

keenforhelp · 06/06/2024 10:56

Parkingt111 · 06/06/2024 10:52

Regardless, doesn't change the fact that the whataboutery you are accusing me of on this thread is incorrect. And the person doing whataboutery on here is yourself.

Did you read the whole thread? Was I the first and only to mention the UK Protests?

No - all of us thought it right and relevant to make the link.

Out of interest, have you ever posted anything on other threads that was not directly relevant to the title?

anotherlevel · 06/06/2024 10:54

@keenforhelp

"This is about Jewish people and their fear in the UK.

Written in single lines to hope the message gets through and hopefully without whataboutery."

READ

THE

THREAD

TITLE!

Written in single lines to hope the message gets through and to stop the whataboutery.

No one is denying how Jews feel but this thread isn't about that.

Again read the thread title.

Parkingt111 · 06/06/2024 10:52

keenforhelp · 06/06/2024 10:48

That's rich!

Every single thread in CITME has been derailed particularly more "Pro-Israeli or hostage ones.

Regardless, doesn't change the fact that the whataboutery you are accusing me of on this thread is incorrect. And the person doing whataboutery on here is yourself.

keenforhelp · 06/06/2024 10:48

That's rich!

Every single thread in CITME has been derailed particularly more "Pro-Israeli or hostage ones.

Parkingt111 · 06/06/2024 10:46

@keenforhelp the irony that you can't see the whataboutery is from you.
Read the thread title. It isn't about marches in London and how they make people feel.
It's about the march that took place in Jerusalem and the affect it has on the Palestinians living there.

keenforhelp · 06/06/2024 10:44

Parkingt111 · 05/06/2024 22:45

@keenforhelp I am sure the Palestinians are terrified near Jerusalem today.

But Jewish people are scared on a daily basis.

Again do you think the Palestinians are having a fun picnic the rest of the days? 500 Palestinians have been killed in the occupied west bank alone since October 7th so if there's anyone who is minimising anything right now, it is you.

And there is the whataboutery and completely ignoring my post.

keenforhelp · 06/06/2024 10:42

Polka83 · 06/06/2024 06:10

I only mention photos - as these appear to primarily shown from links to SM accounts on this board. In general, the camera doesn’t lie.

For example, photos and videos of support for Palestinians around the world show how strong sentiments are about what is happening, despite the biased nature of reporting in some parts of the press.

Equally- a photo of a hostage says a thousand words, which can’t be easily discounted because, let’s say, they were posted by an Islamophobic poster.

Photos today can easily be doctored. And ever heard of AI?

Of course the camera can lie.

Polka83 · 06/06/2024 06:10

TrickyRibbon · 06/06/2024 00:36

I never claimed the photo came from that account. Just wondering why its okay to complain about bias in the DM, for example, and not the account for a pro-Terrorost account.

And as much as I don't like the mail, the idea that the twitter accounts of people who think Jews are awful and October 7th was great is not something that fills me with hope.

I only mention photos - as these appear to primarily shown from links to SM accounts on this board. In general, the camera doesn’t lie.

For example, photos and videos of support for Palestinians around the world show how strong sentiments are about what is happening, despite the biased nature of reporting in some parts of the press.

Equally- a photo of a hostage says a thousand words, which can’t be easily discounted because, let’s say, they were posted by an Islamophobic poster.

TrickyRibbon · 06/06/2024 00:36

Polka83 · 05/06/2024 22:51

I see your point- but even if these accounts are pro-Hamas - does not necessarily mean the photos originate from the accounts? There’s a lot of sharing of photos that originate from other sources. For example, people reposting photos of support for Palestinians around the world or photos from within Gaza.

Photos are also primary sources, and not a biased interpretation of events like a commentary piece in the DM.

Interesting that we are here comparing the DM with individual SM accounts. Shows the power of the former. This is also why the Israeli government is loosing the propaganda war- due entirely to its own actions. The victor no longer gets to write history.

I never claimed the photo came from that account. Just wondering why its okay to complain about bias in the DM, for example, and not the account for a pro-Terrorost account.

And as much as I don't like the mail, the idea that the twitter accounts of people who think Jews are awful and October 7th was great is not something that fills me with hope.

PearlKoala · 05/06/2024 23:50

anotherlevel · 05/06/2024 22:36

The age of those involved is really shocking and it doesn't bode well for the future of Palestinians in the West Bank when such young people seem so full of hatred towards them.

Humdingerydoo · 05/06/2024 23:22

stormy4319trevor · 05/06/2024 23:09

@Humdingerydoo Yes I believe that you believe you know the fear of Jewish people caused by Pro Palestinian marchers is equal to the fear of Palestinians in Jerusalem today. But I don't believe it. Because it is illogical. You are not God, you have no way of knowing this.

As I said, literally no one has any way of knowing this yet you assume my opinion is wrong. I find that insulting.

Happy to leave it here though if you are, as this discussion is clearly not going to go anywhere.

And if it helps, I'll gladly repeat that I think the march today was beyond horrendous and shouldn't have been allowed to take place. No one should have to stay at home just to keep out of harms way from absolute thugs. People should still be able to safely go about their everyday business despite protests, marches, vigils or celebrations.

stormy4319trevor · 05/06/2024 23:11

Thanks parking. Put so nice and clearly.

Parkingt111 · 05/06/2024 23:11

stormy4319trevor · 05/06/2024 23:09

@Humdingerydoo Yes I believe that you believe you know the fear of Jewish people caused by Pro Palestinian marchers is equal to the fear of Palestinians in Jerusalem today. But I don't believe it. Because it is illogical. You are not God, you have no way of knowing this.

Sorry, cross posted with you stormy

stormy4319trevor · 05/06/2024 23:09

@Humdingerydoo Yes I believe that you believe you know the fear of Jewish people caused by Pro Palestinian marchers is equal to the fear of Palestinians in Jerusalem today. But I don't believe it. Because it is illogical. You are not God, you have no way of knowing this.

Parkingt111 · 05/06/2024 23:09

Humdingerydoo · 05/06/2024 23:02

I just checked, it was them. So no, their messaging to me hasn't always been particularly clear.

They said that they believe that you believe ie 'you are of the opinion that Jewish people are as terrified of the marches as the Palestinians were today.
That is not the same as saying that they believe that you believe that Jewish people are terrified of the marches. They were simply stating that you believe that there is an equal comparison between the two groups and the fear they feel. Not negating that Jewish people are afraid of the marches

It was later clarified again that they do believe you in regards to your own fears.

Humdingerydoo · 05/06/2024 23:02

Humdingerydoo · 05/06/2024 23:01

Didn't they also say "I believe that you believe"? Or was that someone else? I'm losing track now

I just checked, it was them. So no, their messaging to me hasn't always been particularly clear.

Humdingerydoo · 05/06/2024 23:01

Parkingt111 · 05/06/2024 22:49

@Humdingerydoo how much clearer than this does it have to be?
Again you are making assumptions about posters and their thoughts.

Didn't they also say "I believe that you believe"? Or was that someone else? I'm losing track now

Humdingerydoo · 05/06/2024 23:00

Parkingt111 · 05/06/2024 22:47

@Humdingerydoo who is 'you guys' this isn't about us and them.
You don't know what I think about the marches, you just constantly make alot of assumptions about what posters are thinking.

"you guys" ie the people I'm currently talking to.

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