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quantumbutterfly · 02/06/2024 23:46

your lot ?

Fab238 · 02/06/2024 23:42

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All of the countries listed above are victims of English imperialism and as such no amount of "handouts" given to their citizen could ever make up for the looting, plundering, killing of their citizens by England. Get off your moral high ground - the world no longer revolves around what you or your lot think.

GeneralPeter · 02/06/2024 23:39

@FrippEnos Neither Gaza nor Xinjiang are separate states, though many people believe they should be. The suffering in Xinjiang is less visible and less violent than Gaza; but the number of people oppressed is massively larger (about 600k in prison in Xinjiang, for example, about one-third of all China's prisoners, plus forced sterilization programmes). I don't think the fact it's the domestic government doing it makes it much (?any) better. What moral difference do you think that makes?

Opine · 02/06/2024 23:39

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julili · 02/06/2024 23:36

EllaDisenchanted · 02/06/2024 22:20

Judenrein

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Or just consequences and a really small country saying “What you are doing is wrong and while it continues you are not welcome here.” the best way it can.

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79Helene · 02/06/2024 23:34

Vivi0 · 02/06/2024 23:26

Does targeting Muslim people in their own countries not count?

Quite. But these goalposts aren't going to move themselves, someone's got to do it.

FrippEnos · 02/06/2024 23:32

According to the Maldives and other countries Plus international groups apparently not.
But then as they are attacking their own people they wouldn't be seen as a threat to another country.

quantumbutterfly · 02/06/2024 23:31

According to Israeli law, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Yemen and Iran are designated as enemy countries and an Israeli citizen must obtain a special permit from the Israeli Ministry of the Interior to visit these countries. One of the only Middle Eastern nations that allow visa-free travel for Israelis is the United Arab Emirates.
Meanwhile, the post has gone viral, generating an array of responses. One social media user reacted to the post and wrote, ''So literally nowhere important.'' Another commented, ''I don't even have an Israeli passport and I don't want to go to those countries.''

As of 2024, Israeli citizens have visa-free or visa-on-arrival access to 171 countries and territories.

Vivi0 · 02/06/2024 23:26

FrippEnos · 02/06/2024 23:22

Are any of those countries targeting Muslim people in another state/country?

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Does targeting Muslim people in their own countries not count?

FrippEnos · 02/06/2024 23:22

HermioneWeasley · 02/06/2024 20:12

Have they banned Chinese people because of the genocide against the Uighurs? Or Syrians or Iranians because of the appalling acts of their government? If not, it just looks a lot like anti semitism.

Are any of those countries targeting Muslim people in another state/country?

Mellowdramadrama · 02/06/2024 23:17

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Amazing to see the irony of getting enraged over racism whilst simultaneously saying "I could live without their citizens turning up looking for handouts so let's block them too"

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Arconialiving · 02/06/2024 23:12

HermioneWeasley · 02/06/2024 20:12

Have they banned Chinese people because of the genocide against the Uighurs? Or Syrians or Iranians because of the appalling acts of their government? If not, it just looks a lot like anti semitism.

This!

LastTrainEast · 02/06/2024 22:55

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mollyfolk · 02/06/2024 22:47

HermioneWeasley · 02/06/2024 20:12

Have they banned Chinese people because of the genocide against the Uighurs? Or Syrians or Iranians because of the appalling acts of their government? If not, it just looks a lot like anti semitism.

all of those countries have more authoritarian regimes which impacts their own people. There will be many people claiming asylum with those nationalities ect..

I guess it all adds up to pressure on the Israeli authorities. Will ordinary citizens be happy that Israeli is losing it’s standing internationally to such an extent. The Maldives is a major tourist destination so that is where it can ensure it’s voice is heard.

79Helene · 02/06/2024 22:46

Triggerning · 02/06/2024 22:33

While I'm in awe of your friend's multiculturalism, it is simply untrue to claim that "most" Israelis have another passport. There aren't great statistics on how many Israelis (especially of those who live in Israel) are dual citizens, but Israel isn't even in the top 5 for countries with the highest percentage of dual citizens. Even in Switzwerland, the country with the highest percentage of citizens who have a 2nd passport, it's less than 20% so your statement is simply wrong.

I think it's around 10% of Israelis (who live in Israel) are dual nationals. I may be wrong on that statistic, but it's definitely nowhere even close to that poster's "most Israelis" which is just made up.

Triggerning · 02/06/2024 22:33

LettuceTruss · 02/06/2024 21:05

Most Israelis have at least one other nationality. One of my friends is Swiss through her father, Austrian and Israeli through her mother, British through naturalisation, French through marriage and she has just become American through residence.

While I'm in awe of your friend's multiculturalism, it is simply untrue to claim that "most" Israelis have another passport. There aren't great statistics on how many Israelis (especially of those who live in Israel) are dual citizens, but Israel isn't even in the top 5 for countries with the highest percentage of dual citizens. Even in Switzwerland, the country with the highest percentage of citizens who have a 2nd passport, it's less than 20% so your statement is simply wrong.

GreenFairies · 02/06/2024 22:25

I mean, didn’t America impose a travel ban that did the same thing?

Edit as pressed send too soon! Countries have a history of making a show about banning other countries so it’s not actually that unique in this situation.

EllaDisenchanted · 02/06/2024 22:20

Judenrein

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Auvergne63 · 02/06/2024 21:26

Hedgeoffressian · 02/06/2024 21:06

Were you also appalled at the slaughter that happened on October 7th?

You can be appalled by both. It's like walking and talking at the same time. Not difficult.

headstone · 02/06/2024 21:26

I can testify Algeria is a really great country to visit, so are the Maldives I’d imagine. Although tbh I wouldn’t want Algeria full of tourists so maybe it’s best to shut up about that.

Vivi0 · 02/06/2024 21:20

quantumbutterfly · 02/06/2024 20:15

The official X handle of the State of Israel has reacted to a post that lists the names of countries that deny entry to Israeli passport holders. Notably, a page called World Of Statistics has named a few countries that don't allow Israeli citizens on their land. These countries are Algeria, Bangladesh, Brunei, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Yemen.
Reacting to the list, Israel wrote, ''We'are good.''

Yeah, Israeli’s really aren’t missing out on anything.

I guess the only travel ban worth losing one’s mind over was Trump’s travel ban - no one seems arsed about banning Israeli’s.

Tully1557 · 02/06/2024 21:20

@Hedgeoffressian really? Still? I think Israel have been reassured endlessly that everyone thought October 7th was horrific. Nothing, absolutely nothing, makes what has happened to Palestinians since then ok. October 7th is dwarfed in my mind by the death toll and psychological trauma of Palestinians since. All lives matter. Israeli lives are not worth more than Palestinian lives.

Hedgeoffressian · 02/06/2024 21:06

ssd · 02/06/2024 20:09

Whilst I'm appalled at the slaughter going on in Gaza, i dont think its right to ban a whole country, there are Israelis as appalled at whats going on as i am.

Were you also appalled at the slaughter that happened on October 7th?

LettuceTruss · 02/06/2024 21:05

Most Israelis have at least one other nationality. One of my friends is Swiss through her father, Austrian and Israeli through her mother, British through naturalisation, French through marriage and she has just become American through residence.