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Petition for the United Kingdom to recognise the state of Palestine

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coralpinkduckegg · 28/05/2024 12:01

Petition: For the United Kingdom to recognise the state of Palestine immediately

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/653509

Of the 27-members of the European Union, Spain, Ireland, Norway, Sweden, Cyprus, Hungary, the Czech Republic, Poland, Slovakia, Romania and Bulgaria have already recognised a Palestinian state. Malta and Slovenia have indicated they could follow.

Britain, France and Australia have said they are considering recognition.

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Auvergne63 · 29/05/2024 17:02

Shiveri · 29/05/2024 13:32

Israel and the Palestinians are both being terrorised by Hamas. No idea why their responsibility for all this is completely ignored. Why isn’t anyone campaigning for them to fight according to international law? They are the official government of Gaza, not just a bunch of randoms.

A terrorist organisation is not bound by International law. On the other hand the only democracy in the ME, one which signed up to the Geneva convention, is.

youngones1 · 29/05/2024 15:20

Parkingt111 · 29/05/2024 15:10

@SherryPalmer there's a difference between a border and a blockade.

Exactly, the Zionists have been expansionist ever since the 1940s and are feign surprise when their neighbours react. They then use the reaction as a pretext for further colonisation as they are doing now in Gaza. This will continue as long as the US backs them. For the adjoining countries they are the neighbours from hell.

Parkingt111 · 29/05/2024 15:10

@SherryPalmer there's a difference between a border and a blockade.

SherryPalmer · 29/05/2024 15:09

youngones1 · 29/05/2024 14:36

Do you think Israel should build a wall around the new Palestine state and control it too?

Why shouldn’t Israel defend its own border? If there is a Palestinian state why should Israel be expected to have open borders with it? Or supply it with anything at all?

Arlanymor · 29/05/2024 14:55

PurpleChrayn · 29/05/2024 14:16

I'm a British Jew married to an Israeli and I don't know a single Jew or Israeli who doesn't want their to be a Palestinian state. One that is peaceful, coexistent, and not ruled by a violently antisemitic genocidal Islamo-fascist terror regime like Hamas.

100%, thanks for sharing.

Arlanymor · 29/05/2024 14:54

DownNative · 29/05/2024 10:17

It's a Parliamentary debate when petitions reach 100,000 minimum.

Not a Government debate which is exclusive and not done on the floor of the Commons. 🤦‍♂️

Yes you’re right, it was late at night and I’ve had a week already.

Thanks for the patronising emoji that didn’t need to be there.

youngones1 · 29/05/2024 14:36

PurpleChrayn · 29/05/2024 14:16

I'm a British Jew married to an Israeli and I don't know a single Jew or Israeli who doesn't want their to be a Palestinian state. One that is peaceful, coexistent, and not ruled by a violently antisemitic genocidal Islamo-fascist terror regime like Hamas.

Do you think Israel should build a wall around the new Palestine state and control it too?

PurpleChrayn · 29/05/2024 14:16

I'm a British Jew married to an Israeli and I don't know a single Jew or Israeli who doesn't want their to be a Palestinian state. One that is peaceful, coexistent, and not ruled by a violently antisemitic genocidal Islamo-fascist terror regime like Hamas.

therealcookiemonster · 29/05/2024 13:41

Shiveri · 29/05/2024 13:32

Israel and the Palestinians are both being terrorised by Hamas. No idea why their responsibility for all this is completely ignored. Why isn’t anyone campaigning for them to fight according to international law? They are the official government of Gaza, not just a bunch of randoms.

if Palestine has been denied statehood then it cannot have an official government.

Once it has official statehood by all means it can be held to account

and no one here is saying hamas isn't a problem, but please educate yourself on the long history of the region, how hamas came about, how Israel was formed etc.

hamas doesn't exist in a vacuum.

Shiveri · 29/05/2024 13:32

therealcookiemonster · 29/05/2024 13:25

yeah OK. Nice to know its Israel that's being terrorised.

not the kids being blown up in tents

Israel and the Palestinians are both being terrorised by Hamas. No idea why their responsibility for all this is completely ignored. Why isn’t anyone campaigning for them to fight according to international law? They are the official government of Gaza, not just a bunch of randoms.

therealcookiemonster · 29/05/2024 13:27

samG76 · 29/05/2024 13:21

I think recognition of Palestine is an excellent idea. If Netanyahu were not a maniac he would welcome it too. It would mean millions of Palestinians would cease to be refugees, as they would be Palestinians in their own state. And it would be the responsibility of the ruling party, ie the PA to deal with Hamas and Islamic Jihad.

exactly

but you are forgetting the crucial detail that the minute this war stops, Netanyahu will fCe corruption charges, not to mention the Wrath of the Israeli people who are fed up and have been let down by this sad excuse of a government

therealcookiemonster · 29/05/2024 13:25

Userxyd · 29/05/2024 06:01

I believe the state of Palestine should be recognised but don't understand why abyone thinks now is the time to do it, in the middle of atrocious violence while they are keeping 123 Israelis underground subjecting them to appalling violence??
If my kids are having a tantrum or fighting and screaming for something, even if I was going to give it to them, I would absolutely not let them have it until they calmed down and started behaving well again.
This just incentivises and rewards brutal horrific terrorism and no matter how much I sympathised with their fight against Israeli oppression, I could never support this now.

I cannot understand anyone who waves the Palestine flag or signs this petition at this point in time- we should be holding onto this to use as incentive to stop the violence.

yeah OK. Nice to know its Israel that's being terrorised.

not the kids being blown up in tents

therealcookiemonster · 29/05/2024 13:23

thank you for this

samG76 · 29/05/2024 13:21

I think recognition of Palestine is an excellent idea. If Netanyahu were not a maniac he would welcome it too. It would mean millions of Palestinians would cease to be refugees, as they would be Palestinians in their own state. And it would be the responsibility of the ruling party, ie the PA to deal with Hamas and Islamic Jihad.

DownNative · 29/05/2024 13:20

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The data tells us Starmer is the 998th signature.

TeamPolin · 29/05/2024 12:19

The timing is unfortunate. I sincerely doubt any petitions will be debated by any Government during an election period and, post election, there will be a lot of governance business - eg swearing in of new MPs, forming the cabinet etc that will take up parliamentary time....

youngones1 · 29/05/2024 11:14

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youngones1 · 29/05/2024 11:09

Let's sign this petition and vote for the Libs Dems the only Uk party not backing the genocide.

youngones1 · 29/05/2024 11:08

Userxyd · 29/05/2024 06:01

I believe the state of Palestine should be recognised but don't understand why abyone thinks now is the time to do it, in the middle of atrocious violence while they are keeping 123 Israelis underground subjecting them to appalling violence??
If my kids are having a tantrum or fighting and screaming for something, even if I was going to give it to them, I would absolutely not let them have it until they calmed down and started behaving well again.
This just incentivises and rewards brutal horrific terrorism and no matter how much I sympathised with their fight against Israeli oppression, I could never support this now.

I cannot understand anyone who waves the Palestine flag or signs this petition at this point in time- we should be holding onto this to use as incentive to stop the violence.

Maybe Israel could start by releasing the 10,000 Palestinian hostages.

Parkingt111 · 29/05/2024 11:05

It might have picked up traction after the massacre in Rafah
I have seen people post about it on social media who I haven't seen previously speak about Gaza.
Almost everyone has 'All Eyes On Rafah'

DownNative · 29/05/2024 10:23

Almost 2,000 signatures come from various countries outside the UK - China, Saudi Arabia and Belgium amongst others.

Kier Starmer is the 998th signature.

Most of the 160k ish UK sigs are from London area which means it's not representative of the United Kingdom as a whole.

DownNative · 29/05/2024 10:17

Arlanymor · 28/05/2024 20:38

Well it has reached the level for a debate in the HoC and it won’t be THIS government that debate it, will it.

It's a Parliamentary debate when petitions reach 100,000 minimum.

Not a Government debate which is exclusive and not done on the floor of the Commons. 🤦‍♂️

Dulra · 29/05/2024 08:50

Userxyd · 29/05/2024 06:01

I believe the state of Palestine should be recognised but don't understand why abyone thinks now is the time to do it, in the middle of atrocious violence while they are keeping 123 Israelis underground subjecting them to appalling violence??
If my kids are having a tantrum or fighting and screaming for something, even if I was going to give it to them, I would absolutely not let them have it until they calmed down and started behaving well again.
This just incentivises and rewards brutal horrific terrorism and no matter how much I sympathised with their fight against Israeli oppression, I could never support this now.

I cannot understand anyone who waves the Palestine flag or signs this petition at this point in time- we should be holding onto this to use as incentive to stop the violence.

I cannot understand anyone who waves the Palestine flag or signs this petition at this point in time- we should be holding onto this to use as incentive to stop the violence.

Hamas are not Palestine, why is waving the Palestinian flag an issue? This is the time to wave their flag and show to the innocent civilians in Gaza who are suffering unimaginable pain and horror that they are seen, they are not alone, that we are with them. Recognising the state of Palestine is not a tool to bargain with. This is not about Hamas, this about the future of Palestine, about giving Palestine a better leg to stand on, when, after the current conflict and peace negotiations and negotiations on the future of the region start.

If my kids are having a tantrum or fighting and screaming for something, even if I was going to give it to them, I would absolutely not let them have it until they calmed down and started behaving well again.
Can't believe you have compared the current horrific conflict to a tantrumming toddler!

Dulra · 29/05/2024 08:42

ruby1957 · 29/05/2024 07:00

seems pointless given this statement by the government -

All petitions will close at 00.01am on Thursday 30 May.There will be a General Election on Thursday 4 July. This means that Parliament has to be dissolved and that all parliamentary business – including petitions – will stop.

I assume petitions that are currently 'live' will need to be re-started after the GE.

I assume on hold onto it until a new government is formed. I think labour are more likely to look at this if they get into government

ruby1957 · 29/05/2024 07:00

seems pointless given this statement by the government -

All petitions will close at 00.01am on Thursday 30 May.There will be a General Election on Thursday 4 July. This means that Parliament has to be dissolved and that all parliamentary business – including petitions – will stop.

I assume petitions that are currently 'live' will need to be re-started after the GE.