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Tel Aviv under attack from at least eight rockets fired from Rafah in Gaza

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keenforhelp · 27/05/2024 20:54

Hamas's military wing claimed responsibility for the attack on Sunday, according to Press Association.

What happened after by Israeli airstrikes was truly terrible - a real tragedy.

But why are Hamas still firing rockets deliberately at a residential city with no combatants.
As long as Hamas are in power rockets will never stop. Plus all the Aid Britain and America are giving just goes straight to Hamas. They started the war haven’t released the hostages and have no intention of surrendering.
The UN orders Israel to stop fighting.
But Hamas are free to continue their attacks.
Makes sense to someone I guess...........

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13461325/Tel-Aviv-attack-eight-rockets-fired-Rafah-Gaza.html

Tel Aviv under attack from rockets fired from Rafah in Gaza

Tel Aviv has come under attack with at least eight rockets fired towards central Israel on Sunday originating from Gaza 's far-southern city of Rafah, the Israeli military has confirmed.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13461325/Tel-Aviv-attack-eight-rockets-fired-Rafah-Gaza.html

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Scirocco · 30/05/2024 20:47

DownNative · 30/05/2024 20:37

Correct - they didn't see the original.

But this is merely further deflection, so don't pay it any further attention. 👍

Deflection from what? It seems like a strange and unpleasant personal attack to make, and one which would be roundly condemned if made in some circumstances.

DownNative · 30/05/2024 20:46

Dulra · 30/05/2024 14:25

It's called friendly advice, Dulra.
Unsolicited though so comes across as patronising

Oh, is there absolutely no place for intellectual debate/discussion on war and conflict in Mumsnet's Conflict In The Middle East forum?!

Of course there is a space for intellectual debate but as a mumsnet discussion forum there is also space for emotion which you don't want and often criticise people for, that's why I queried why you aren't posting on a more academic platform

Actually, I didn't argue for absolutely zero emotion which you'll realise if you look back.

But I did advise on being more measured with emotions, especially when those emotions lead to ad hominem attacks and so on.

Rest assured Mumsnet is far from the only forum I debate issues around war and conflict. It really doesn't have to be an all or nothing thing, you know. 👍

DownNative · 30/05/2024 20:37

keenforhelp · 30/05/2024 18:38

@Scirocco It was not directed at you so why is it weird as you don't get the context.

Correct - they didn't see the original.

But this is merely further deflection, so don't pay it any further attention. 👍

HelenHen · 30/05/2024 19:12

DownNative · 30/05/2024 13:25

If I were you, I'd take a more considered, less emotional view of the situation at hand with reference to various bodies of law.

For clarity, law (domestic & International) is not the same thing as morality. Some degree of overlap exists, but fundamentally they're two different things.

Please try not to make a Strawman Argument. 👍

Is this Mumsnet or a court of law? We are not obligated to leave emotions out of the discussion. Why do you believe we can only debate legalities?

K0OLA1D · 30/05/2024 19:06

Scirocco · 30/05/2024 19:01

Other people have also expressed that they think it's strange. Why is there an issue with me saying it?

I didn't understand what was meant either.

Scirocco · 30/05/2024 19:01

keenforhelp · 30/05/2024 19:00

I am sure that that poster can fight his/her own battle.

Other people have also expressed that they think it's strange. Why is there an issue with me saying it?

keenforhelp · 30/05/2024 19:00

Scirocco · 30/05/2024 18:59

It seems a strange personal attack to make against someone. A spy for whom? And why?

I am sure that that poster can fight his/her own battle.

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Scirocco · 30/05/2024 18:59

keenforhelp · 30/05/2024 18:38

@Scirocco It was not directed at you so why is it weird as you don't get the context.

It seems a strange personal attack to make against someone. A spy for whom? And why?

keenforhelp · 30/05/2024 18:38

Scirocco · 30/05/2024 17:19

What on earth are you talking about? What a weird accusation to throw about.

@Scirocco It was not directed at you so why is it weird as you don't get the context.

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Scirocco · 30/05/2024 17:19

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What on earth are you talking about? What a weird accusation to throw about.

DownNative · 30/05/2024 15:47

freethem · 30/05/2024 15:38

@DownNative "Not so when the words I used was only posted in one specific place. Indeed, the same individual some months ago admitted to doing precisely what I said."

I've admitted to nothing because I have NO idea what you are on about.
Reply or don't reply. I'm not really bothered. But just wanted to clear that up.

And as you like emojis here's a 👍🏽 for getting my post deleted.

I agree it’s better to just continue ignoring your posts now.

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I'm afraid YOU got your own post deleted when you engaged in Ad Hominems which is against MN rules.

Cheerio......

freethem · 30/05/2024 15:38

@DownNative "Not so when the words I used was only posted in one specific place. Indeed, the same individual some months ago admitted to doing precisely what I said."

I've admitted to nothing because I have NO idea what you are on about.
Reply or don't reply. I'm not really bothered. But just wanted to clear that up.

And as you like emojis here's a 👍🏽 for getting my post deleted.

I agree it’s better to just continue ignoring your posts now.

DownNative · 30/05/2024 15:37

Efacsen · 30/05/2024 15:31

I usually ignore your tedious posts so think I'll just return to that

OK. 🤷‍♂️

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Efacsen · 30/05/2024 15:31

DownNative · 30/05/2024 15:26

Not so when the words I used was only posted in one specific place. Indeed, the same individual some months ago admitted to doing precisely what I said.

What you do or don't believe is irrelevant.

Besides, this is simply part of the deflection intended to bury the distinctions between hostages and prisoners I was challenging.

I usually ignore your tedious posts so think I'll just return to that

DownNative · 30/05/2024 15:26

Efacsen · 30/05/2024 15:21

That's your opinion

My opinion however is that it's bizarre accusation

Not so when the words I used was only posted in one specific place. Indeed, the same individual some months ago admitted to doing precisely what I said.

What you do or don't believe is irrelevant.

Besides, this is simply part of the deflection intended to bury the distinctions between hostages and prisoners I was challenging.

Efacsen · 30/05/2024 15:21

DownNative · 30/05/2024 15:17

Playing the innocent doesn't suit you, especially since my words you used was only posted in ONE place.

Hint: not CITME.

Look again and you'll find Mumsnet has deleted your post. Ad Hominem attacks are not permitted and reflect badly on you.

@Efacsen, not a bizarre "accusation" at all, but a factual statement. Thankfully, no need to waste any more time on that!

That's your opinion

My opinion however is that it's bizarre accusation

DownNative · 30/05/2024 15:17

freethem · 30/05/2024 14:22

Spy? What are you on about?
Posters on here are more than capable of analysing posts and figuring how others post.

Playing the innocent doesn't suit you, especially since my words you used was only posted in ONE place.

Hint: not CITME.

Look again and you'll find Mumsnet has deleted your post. Ad Hominem attacks are not permitted and reflect badly on you.

@Efacsen, not a bizarre "accusation" at all, but a factual statement. Thankfully, no need to waste any more time on that!

Auvergne63 · 30/05/2024 15:12

If I were you, I'd take a more considered, less emotional view of the situation
Emotions, especially anger, have been the catalysts for change in the world.
The French revolution, the Civil rights movement, the end of apartheid and so many more have happened because of people's anger at the injustice they faced.
Protests are happening Tel Aviv against genocide. What do you think that is?

freethem · 30/05/2024 14:54

freethem · 30/05/2024 14:22

Spy? What are you on about?
Posters on here are more than capable of analysing posts and figuring how others post.

Forgot to tag @DownNative

freethem · 30/05/2024 14:30

Exactly, people are allowed to have emotions. It's called being a human being and not a robot.

Dulra · 30/05/2024 14:25

DownNative · 30/05/2024 14:14

It's called friendly advice, Dulra.

Oh, is there absolutely no place for intellectual debate/discussion on war and conflict in Mumsnet's Conflict In The Middle East forum?! 👀

I'm not going to apologise for that.

Interesting all the same to observe attempts to deflect from a previous posters plainly wrong attempts to conflate hostages with prisoners though.

It's called friendly advice, Dulra.
Unsolicited though so comes across as patronising

Oh, is there absolutely no place for intellectual debate/discussion on war and conflict in Mumsnet's Conflict In The Middle East forum?!

Of course there is a space for intellectual debate but as a mumsnet discussion forum there is also space for emotion which you don't want and often criticise people for, that's why I queried why you aren't posting on a more academic platform

Efacsen · 30/05/2024 14:24

freethem · 30/05/2024 14:22

Spy? What are you on about?
Posters on here are more than capable of analysing posts and figuring how others post.

Absolutely - what a bizarre accusation

freethem · 30/05/2024 14:22

Spy? What are you on about?
Posters on here are more than capable of analysing posts and figuring how others post.

DownNative · 30/05/2024 14:16

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DownNative · 30/05/2024 14:14

Dulra · 30/05/2024 13:49

If I were you

You're not .....so why are you suggesting to someone you don't know how they should think and respond.

You clearly want an intellectual academic debate so what are you doing on a discussion board in Mumsnet. And what's the point of your patronising juvenile emojis surely they're beneath you.

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It's called friendly advice, Dulra.

Oh, is there absolutely no place for intellectual debate/discussion on war and conflict in Mumsnet's Conflict In The Middle East forum?! 👀

I'm not going to apologise for that.

Interesting all the same to observe attempts to deflect from a previous posters plainly wrong attempts to conflate hostages with prisoners though.

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