Tel Aviv under attack from at least eight rockets fired from Rafah in Gaza

You are quoting me entirely out of context

And is dragging a 'discussion' from one thread to another which MNHQ do not regard as 'helpful' for obvious reasons

End the occupation!
For decades they have denied the Palestinians their very basic rights and have continued their illegal land grabbing and oppression.

Would you have preferred if the poster had said Netanyahu and the current Israeli government are partly responsible for the rise of Hamas?

I would say it to anyone who is being ridiculous. including especially to people of my own ethnic/cultural background

Would you say that to someone of Afro Caribbean decent complaining about a racist comment ?(just wondering, and no I am not Jewish myself)

I think it's cute the way some people think they can just "eliminate" Hamas. Hamas is an ideology. It's an idea. It will be a cuddly kitten compared with what emerges next from Gaza's rubble. You'll wish for the days of Hamas.

are you now? in that case I am the final arbitrator saying who is wrong and right on mumsnet and I say you are just embarrassing yourself at this point.

it is extremely important to stand up against anti semitism. randomly throwing the word around makes actually fighting for the rights of the Jewish community that much harder

You can believe something is anti-semitism, it doesn't make it so. Caring about dead Israelis and not dead Palestinians doesn't make you righteous, it makes you a hypocrite.

But you’re exterminating Gaza and the Palestinians in the process.

As other posters have said, please stop. You are digging yourself into a hole.

Honestly, just stop. I am deathly tired of anyone speaking out against the historic dehumanisation of Palestinians being labelled as an anti-semite.

I suggest you do some reading and gain some education before shutting people down. There is enough factual documentation out there, some written by Jewish scholars too.

You seem to ignore the fact that Netanyahu has propped Hamas for the last 14 years. So stop your anti semitic slurs and inform yourself.
For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it's blown up in our faces | The Times of Israel

Absolutely agree.

You and the UN and various other international bodies disagree.

So how would you describe the long blockade of Gaza by land, sea and air?

There wasn't a war with several hundred (or more) people dying every week before October 7th.

There was, afterwards.

So October 7th was significant, wasn't it?

Yes, I regard the 10s of thousands of people who died since then as pretty significant.

No I am not Jewish.

Hamas -,lay down your arms and surrender. Then the dismantling of Hamas will stop.

You honestly think that the children who manage to survive this genocide will grow up unscathed and indifferent to the slaughter of their family and the decimation of their homeland?

I remain stunned at how many fail to understand how the likes of Hamas are created. I can guarantee that if I saw my children blown to bits, family and friends massacred by bombs and my homeland razed to the ground by an ideology that viewed me as little more than a rat, I would be of reasonable mind.

I'd rather Israel just get the hell out of Gaza and West Bank, remove the blockades, agree to the proposed borders of a 2 state solution as per UN resolution, return the 9,500 Palestinian men, women, elderly & child hostages that they have been abusing in their prisons and detention centres....and leave the Palestinians the f* alone.
If that were to actually happen, the Israeli hostages would be released and rockets from Hamas would cease.

Israel is the occupying force and has persecuted Palestinians for over 75 years.....this is the sole reason Hamas exists....to resist.
Under international law they have the right to resist.

So it's really that uncomplicated - freedom for Palestinian.

How can Gazan’s protest when their children’s heads are being cut off in front of them whilst they’re being bombed every day?

Whilst American Jewish influencers prance about Israel (which according to you is so dangerous) making TikTok’s

I think you’re furious about the wrong things here. Israel IS being left in peace, enough for people to holiday there.

@Gunnersforthecup hundreds of Palestinians were dying in 2023 before Oct 7 (and of course many more in totality before 2023), I know that doesn't count in the eyes of Israel because they were Palestinians, but my question was why do people expect non-Israelis to disregard that? why would everyone else turn a blind eye and think that there was a clean slate before Oct 7th simply because that suits Israel? That's so arbitrary.