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IDF airstrikes reportedly carried out on 'humanitarian area'

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Scirocco · 26/05/2024 22:18

https://news.sky.com/story/hamas-launches-first-rocket-attack-on-israel-from-gaza-in-months-13143299

The IDF have reportedly carried out airstrikes on displaced people, in an area Israel designated a 'humanitarian area'. They told people to go there, displaced people to that area, and have now reportedly bombed it.

Airstrikes on Rafah reportedly kill 30 after Hamas launches rockets at Tel Aviv

Medics in the southern Gaza city say the strikes hit an area of tents being used by displaced people.

https://news.sky.com/story/hamas-launches-first-rocket-attack-on-israel-from-gaza-in-months-13143299

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Efacsen · 29/05/2024 08:36

IDK @PeasfullPerson 'mistake' acknowledges some degree of culpability whereas 'mishap' doesn't to my mind suggest any responsibility at all

PeasfullPerson · 29/05/2024 08:31

‘Mistakes’ that end in death require an investigation and for those responsible to be held accountable.

Efacsen · 29/05/2024 08:26

So not a major ground invasion and a 'mistake' not a 'mishap'

White House says Israel’s latest actions in Rafah do not cross US red line

The Biden administration has said recent Israeli operations and attacks in Gaza’s southern city of Rafah do not constitute a major ground operation that crosses any US* red lines, and that it is also closely monitoring a probe into Sunday’s deadly strike on a tent camp it called “tragic”.

Speaking after Israeli tanks were seen near al-Awda mosque, a landmark in central Rafah, national security council spokesperson John Kirby told reporters that the US was not turning a “blind eye” to the plight of Palestinian civilians.
“The Israelis have said this is a tragic mistake,” Kirby said, referring to the airstrike and fire in an area crowded with refugee tents that Gaza health authorities said killed at least 45 people on Sunday.

Global shock after Israeli airstrike kills dozens in Rafah tent camp

At least 45 people, including many women and children, killed in assault that prompts international outcry

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/27/global-shock-after-israeli-airstrike-kills-dozens-in-rafah-tent-camp

Tienne · 29/05/2024 08:19

Yazzi · 29/05/2024 01:02

She probably means exactly what it meant for white South Africans who fought for apartheid. That the oppressive system they fight for only their benefit, at the expense of others, will end.

agreed. accountabilty is ratcheting.

In US at leeast he generational divide on Israel is massive. The "victim" hasbara still works with some but its rapidly losing ground.

People can now easily translate videos for example that Israel mistranslates.

Yazzi · 29/05/2024 01:02

blurry5205 · 29/05/2024 00:28

There is no need to debate or try and reason with Zionists. Let them continue. We live in a changing world and their day of reckoning will surely come. I like many welcome a multi polar world.

What exactly do you mean by "day of reckoning"?

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She probably means exactly what it meant for white South Africans who fought for apartheid. That the oppressive system they fight for only their benefit, at the expense of others, will end.

blurry5205 · 29/05/2024 00:28

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There is no need to debate or try and reason with Zionists. Let them continue. We live in a changing world and their day of reckoning will surely come. I like many welcome a multi polar world.

What exactly do you mean by "day of reckoning"?

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Yazzi · 28/05/2024 22:18

Jonismorf · 26/05/2024 23:00

Those Hamas cunts deliberately launched an attack whilst hiding behind innocent children in the full knowledge that the IDF would retaliate in this way. If a terrorist shoots at a soldier and the soldier returns fire and the terrorist holds up a child to shield himself from the bullets, who is the murderer?

This is an astonishing question.

If a gunman in England shot into a police station from a school full of children, and the police knowingly bombed the school to kill the gunman, would you similarly say "well, who's to blame" about the loss of the children?

This is the same. Precious beautiful children knowingly blown to bits.

You have utterly lost your humanity to support Israel, that you can think of such a question as a moral grey area.

PeasfullPerson · 28/05/2024 21:46

Scirocco · 28/05/2024 16:42

I thought the worst pain I could ever feel was holding my child for the last time and having to let go. But for a mother to have to do that like that... It's like something from a nightmare.

That is horrendous, I don’t know what to say. How will she carry all that pain. I wish her the strength to do this and that one
day she may see some semblance of justice for what was done to her children.

I am so sorry for the loss of your own child and all the pain you have had to endure.

BelleHathor · 28/05/2024 20:46

Scirocco · 28/05/2024 16:42

I thought the worst pain I could ever feel was holding my child for the last time and having to let go. But for a mother to have to do that like that... It's like something from a nightmare.

So sorry Scirocco sending love and hugs 💐

Tienne · 28/05/2024 20:32

Scirocco · 28/05/2024 20:29

I think @anotherlevel wouldn't have meant it that way; we're both Muslims and reminding our fellow Muslims to have faith in God's mercy and plan is often a way in which Muslims show support and empathy for each other.

I am so grateful for every person's support for the innocent people of Palestine in the face of this horror. Thank you.

Even a majoirty of Americans. AMERICANS, Thought Israel went too far...back in January

julili · 28/05/2024 20:32

Scirocco · 28/05/2024 20:29

I think @anotherlevel wouldn't have meant it that way; we're both Muslims and reminding our fellow Muslims to have faith in God's mercy and plan is often a way in which Muslims show support and empathy for each other.

I am so grateful for every person's support for the innocent people of Palestine in the face of this horror. Thank you.

Oh no I know. My comment wasn’t intended as a criticism at all, apologies that it came across that way.

Scirocco · 28/05/2024 20:29

julili · 28/05/2024 19:10

It isn’t only Muslims who want to see the IDF and Israeli govt be punished.

I think @anotherlevel wouldn't have meant it that way; we're both Muslims and reminding our fellow Muslims to have faith in God's mercy and plan is often a way in which Muslims show support and empathy for each other.

I am so grateful for every person's support for the innocent people of Palestine in the face of this horror. Thank you.

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AhNowTed · 28/05/2024 20:12

sprigatito · 28/05/2024 19:07

I wish people would stop calling this a war. It's not a war when only one side has an army, a navy, an air force and massive military apparatus. It's a slaughter, not a war.

Totally agree.

A war depicts some kind of equivalence.

One side has an army, airforce, tanks, jets, bombers, 2000 lb bombs, billions of dollars of arms and one of the strongest militaries in the world.

The other has rockets, and is trapped in a bombed out city.

anotherlevel · 28/05/2024 19:24

@julili "It isn’t only Muslims who want to see the IDF and Israeli govt be punished."

I know and I'm sorry I didn't mean for it to come across that way.

anotherlevel · 28/05/2024 19:22

sprigatito · 28/05/2024 19:07

I wish people would stop calling this a war. It's not a war when only one side has an army, a navy, an air force and massive military apparatus. It's a slaughter, not a war.

Exactly

julili · 28/05/2024 19:10

anotherlevel · 28/05/2024 16:49

@Scirocco I'm so sorry for all the pain it's bringing back. I just can't imagine how painful it would be. We have to have faith in Allah SWT and trust He will punish those who are actively complicit and responsible for this massacre.

It isn’t only Muslims who want to see the IDF and Israeli govt be punished.

sprigatito · 28/05/2024 19:07

I wish people would stop calling this a war. It's not a war when only one side has an army, a navy, an air force and massive military apparatus. It's a slaughter, not a war.

TheABC · 28/05/2024 19:04

I have no words left.

This is why everyone urged Israel not to bomb Rafeh. It's why a ceasefire is so desperately needed.

I am struggling to think of another situation where the civilian population had no food, medicine, water or freedom of movement whilst under constant aerial attack.

We keep referencing the second world war but the populace there could flee into the countryside or seek help.

anotherlevel · 28/05/2024 18:16

According to the BBC the attack on Sunday was not a blood bath.

www.instagram.com/p/C7g99TVoqcB/?igsh=MWRneWVldWRvaHJpbQ==

anotherlevel · 28/05/2024 17:31

Molymoly · 28/05/2024 17:23

Does he honestly believe people believe this.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7hHkFDNOA3/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

So his excuse is "it must have been Hamas" how predictable

Efacsen · 28/05/2024 17:30

Molymoly · 28/05/2024 17:23

Does he honestly believe people believe this.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7hHkFDNOA3/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Yes the satellite images are really messing up the narrative - 3 or 4 different accounts have been put out there now and they don't hang together - even contradict one another

TakeMe2Insanity · 28/05/2024 17:16

The pain is unimaginable. The poor mother’s whole future is gone. How do you even begin grieving when everything you could possibly hold is gone. It doesn’t cease to shock me that some posters keep justifying the bombing of Palestinians as if it will fix everything.

Limesodaagain · 28/05/2024 17:02

It’s actually heartbreaking that anyone would attempt to justify bombing a civilian refugee camp filled with traumatised families.