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IDF airstrikes reportedly carried out on 'humanitarian area'

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Scirocco · 26/05/2024 22:18

https://news.sky.com/story/hamas-launches-first-rocket-attack-on-israel-from-gaza-in-months-13143299

The IDF have reportedly carried out airstrikes on displaced people, in an area Israel designated a 'humanitarian area'. They told people to go there, displaced people to that area, and have now reportedly bombed it.

Airstrikes on Rafah reportedly kill 30 after Hamas launches rockets at Tel Aviv

Medics in the southern Gaza city say the strikes hit an area of tents being used by displaced people.

https://news.sky.com/story/hamas-launches-first-rocket-attack-on-israel-from-gaza-in-months-13143299

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Parkingt111 · 27/05/2024 15:20

@Alwayslookonthe
This was on sky which I believe is quite unbiased as it goes

Speaking on the latest Rafah strikes, Bell said the Geneva Convention was "very clear" and you "had to protect all civilians", even those who were around a legitimate target.
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"At face value the IDF attack was conducted into an area with a lot of civilians, not robust buildings but a lot of tents and a lot of casualties," he said.
"The danger is that risks undermining the confidence of the international community that Israel is actually conducting a war in accordance with the Geneva Convention."

Jessie21 · 27/05/2024 15:17

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ConnieCounter · 27/05/2024 15:14

Alwayslookonthe · 27/05/2024 14:32

I understand the raw emotion about this strike. It is horrific.

There’s much we don’t know. What we do know is important, though.

Senior Hamas combatants were the targets and were killed in the strike. Meaning the target was likely legitimate.

The question was the proportionality analysis done. That’s not something we know.

IHL expects civilian casualties, it does not demand that you eliminate them all together. It does demand you mitigate them to the best of your ability.

And that’s the question that must be answered.

Agree with the others. This post is really upsetting to read.

45 people were blown to bits and burned alive in their makeshift beds, in shitty little tents because they've already lost everything they had. Babies were killed, at least one lost its entire head. These are scenes of horror that are hard for us to even comprehend.

There's no justification for it. None. I'm sick to the back teeth of listening to people justifying the savage and barbaric murder of babies, children and civilians.

Jessie21 · 27/05/2024 15:01

Alwayslookonthe · 27/05/2024 14:32

I understand the raw emotion about this strike. It is horrific.

There’s much we don’t know. What we do know is important, though.

Senior Hamas combatants were the targets and were killed in the strike. Meaning the target was likely legitimate.

The question was the proportionality analysis done. That’s not something we know.

IHL expects civilian casualties, it does not demand that you eliminate them all together. It does demand you mitigate them to the best of your ability.

And that’s the question that must be answered.

No. There is no justification for killing children.

The IDF did this to strike back at the ICJ who ordered them to stop. They know the tide has turned against them and they can't continue to use the veil of their religion to hide from criticism.

Israel are carrying out a genocide. And they're not going to get away with it anymore.

allthingsred · 27/05/2024 14:56

Alwayslookonthe · 27/05/2024 14:32

I understand the raw emotion about this strike. It is horrific.

There’s much we don’t know. What we do know is important, though.

Senior Hamas combatants were the targets and were killed in the strike. Meaning the target was likely legitimate.

The question was the proportionality analysis done. That’s not something we know.

IHL expects civilian casualties, it does not demand that you eliminate them all together. It does demand you mitigate them to the best of your ability.

And that’s the question that must be answered.

No...no no no...no more.

I actually dont care who they think they were targetting.
These people were in tents with nothing. Trying to protect their children from the most high tech funded army in the world.
There is nothing legitimate about any of this

There is no defence. None.
The videos that have come out... It is pure demonic evil.

Efacsen · 27/05/2024 14:51

Confirmed death toll has risen to 45 with search continuing as many bodies so damaged by fire and blast - and likely more deaths due to lack of healthcare

Liv999 · 27/05/2024 14:46

@roarrfeckingroar what happened last night was barbaric, they told them they were safe in Rafah! When Hamas do something like this they're known as terrorists, the IDF have shown themselves as the terrorists they are, the whole world is watching and calling for them to stop and yet they continue, I hope Netanyahu and his cronies burn in hell

Alwayslookonthe · 27/05/2024 14:32

I understand the raw emotion about this strike. It is horrific.

There’s much we don’t know. What we do know is important, though.

Senior Hamas combatants were the targets and were killed in the strike. Meaning the target was likely legitimate.

The question was the proportionality analysis done. That’s not something we know.

IHL expects civilian casualties, it does not demand that you eliminate them all together. It does demand you mitigate them to the best of your ability.

And that’s the question that must be answered.

PearlKoala · 27/05/2024 14:24

Parkingt111 · 27/05/2024 14:11

@PearlKoala agreed
I am so full of rage
I should probably stay off these threads for awhile
They sent them there!! They sent the kids there. The pregnant women were sheltering there after being displaced countless times.
They told them they would be safe there. And then they burnt them alive in the night in their tents. In their TENTS!
How much more sadistic can it get. When you think it can't get any worse and then it does.

You absolutely aren't alone, so many of us are grappling with very big feelings today. What happened last night is just beyond what any of us could imagine. Take care of yourself today ❤️

Jessie21 · 27/05/2024 14:17

Parkingt111 · 27/05/2024 14:11

@PearlKoala agreed
I am so full of rage
I should probably stay off these threads for awhile
They sent them there!! They sent the kids there. The pregnant women were sheltering there after being displaced countless times.
They told them they would be safe there. And then they burnt them alive in the night in their tents. In their TENTS!
How much more sadistic can it get. When you think it can't get any worse and then it does.

Exactly this. Regardless of any other opinions you have, how can you justify burning children alive in the tents they were told were safe. It's horrific.

Jessie21 · 27/05/2024 14:15

roarrfeckingroar · 27/05/2024 13:47

@Jessie21 Palestinians have been bombing Israel for decades.

In response to the unrivalled level of terror Israel have unleashed on them. Why do you think they developed the Iron Dome?

There is no defence for this. You cannot defend innocent women and children being bombed in their refugee tents.

Parkingt111 · 27/05/2024 14:11

@PearlKoala agreed
I am so full of rage
I should probably stay off these threads for awhile
They sent them there!! They sent the kids there. The pregnant women were sheltering there after being displaced countless times.
They told them they would be safe there. And then they burnt them alive in the night in their tents. In their TENTS!
How much more sadistic can it get. When you think it can't get any worse and then it does.

PearlKoala · 27/05/2024 13:53

Parkingt111 · 27/05/2024 13:47

From French PM Macron

Outraged by the Israeli strikes that have killed many displaced persons in Rafah.
These operations must stop. There are no safe areas in Rafah for Palestinian civilians.
I call for full respect for international law and an immediate ceasefire.

Great to see leaders speaking out. The scenes last night were nothing short of hellish. Burnt and beheaded children, absolutely shocking that this happened after the ICJ order and in what was supposed to be a safe place. I think it is clear though that speaking out isn't enough at this point when Israel are unwilling to listen, harsh sanctions really need to be implemented asap.

roarrfeckingroar · 27/05/2024 13:47

@Jessie21 Palestinians have been bombing Israel for decades.

Parkingt111 · 27/05/2024 13:47

From French PM Macron

Outraged by the Israeli strikes that have killed many displaced persons in Rafah.
These operations must stop. There are no safe areas in Rafah for Palestinian civilians.
I call for full respect for international law and an immediate ceasefire.

Jessie21 · 27/05/2024 13:41

@roarrfeckingroar this didn't start on October 7. Israel have been bombing Palestine for decades.

roarrfeckingroar · 27/05/2024 13:37

Jonismorf · 26/05/2024 23:00

Those Hamas cunts deliberately launched an attack whilst hiding behind innocent children in the full knowledge that the IDF would retaliate in this way. If a terrorist shoots at a soldier and the soldier returns fire and the terrorist holds up a child to shield himself from the bullets, who is the murderer?

Exactly this.

Hamas started and continue this. Place your blame at their feet.

Perfect28 · 27/05/2024 13:28

@Jonismorf do you expect Hamas to simply sit back whilst Israel attack Gaza as they are? Why is it ok for you that Israel 'defend' themselves from Hamas but this is unacceptable the other way around?

quantumbutterfly · 27/05/2024 12:52

anotherlevel · 27/05/2024 12:50

@quantumbutterfly if you read a bit further, you would have seen I said apart from 1 or 2 as I'd forgotten to type it. Ella was included in that number. I am aware Ella lives in Israel and I am sorry to hear what she's going through and stays safe. I acknowledged this earlier on in the thread.

I saw that. I was replying to a poster who wanted me to ' pick a side'.

I pick the side that wants peaceful settlement not escalation.

Jessie21 · 27/05/2024 12:51

@quantumbutterfly I wish for Israel to stop its genocide in the name of revenge.

anotherlevel · 27/05/2024 12:50

@quantumbutterfly if you read a bit further, you would have seen I said apart from 1 or 2 as I'd forgotten to type it. Ella was included in that number. I am aware Ella lives in Israel and I am sorry to hear what she's going through and stays safe. I acknowledged this earlier on in the thread.

quantumbutterfly · 27/05/2024 12:49

Jessie21 · 27/05/2024 12:42

@quantumbutterfly what about the innocent Palestinian women and children being murdered as they sleep?

Seriously, what do you wish for them? Revenge?
See my pp

ScrollingLeaves · 27/05/2024 12:44

Neverpostagain · 27/05/2024 12:28

Exactly. The missiles sent off towards Tel Aviv were launched from here. In full and correct expectation that Israel would retaliate. Fucking hamas hate Palestinian people every bit much as they hate Israelis.

Does it seems to you, that contrary to what the IDF says, this hit on the Palestinian ‘safe zone’ was intentional retaliation for the Hamas rockets?

Or do you think it was accidental ignition of a fire that spread, caused by their targeting two high rank Hamas in a compound near by? That is what the IDF said.

It will be helpful to see if an outside agency can work out which.

In my opinion you are right about Hamas launching those rockets. They will have caused terror to innocent people, all be it without harm thanks to the dome, but otherwise not done anything - least of all to the IDF.

Just an imbecilic red rag.

Jessie21 · 27/05/2024 12:42

@quantumbutterfly what about the innocent Palestinian women and children being murdered as they sleep?

quantumbutterfly · 27/05/2024 12:41

anotherlevel · 27/05/2024 12:16

It's still surprising how, not just on this thread but on others too where this is being discussed, there is so much silence from the pro Israelis about this.

That's helpful. @EllaDisenchanted & @Scirocco are exchanging peace and sorrow, by all accounts they are there or have family there. I stand with them.