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Why the need to cover up ?

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NecessaryNC24 · 25/05/2024 21:06

Genuine question: why do pro -Hamas protesters feel the need to cover their faces during protests.

Are you ultimately ashamed ?

If that was the reason I would understand, to be affiliated with terrorists, where actual infants are still held as hostages if not actually dead yet, yeah I'd be truly ashamed.

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BelleHathor · 26/05/2024 09:31

Perhaps because they don't want to encounter unhinged ex IDF soldiers like this? who felt entitled to racially abuse (including pulling her Hijab off) a woman at Whitechapel Station. He even lurched towards the woman recording, as if to hit her before other people stepped in.

https://x.com/KerryBurgess/status/1794442756347015588

trigger warning he says some disgusting Islamaphobic things.

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https://x.com/KerryBurgess/status/1794442756347015588

BibiSuzanne · 26/05/2024 09:23

You tell me. I really don't know it.

NecessaryNC24 · 26/05/2024 09:20

There's a pretty fcucking famous one that calls for the elimination of Jews from the land.

Let's see if you can remember it.

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NecessaryNC24 · 26/05/2024 09:18

Are you serious?

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BibiSuzanne · 26/05/2024 08:50

Do not patronise me with your conspiracy theory slur.
Tell me the chants that are pro Hamas.

NecessaryNC24 · 26/05/2024 08:43

I'd like to think the majority of protesters didn't support those rapists and murderers. I would really prefer to believe that.

But people's actions (and chants) loudly spell it out.

Just as Hamas hide among their population, this is reflected in the protests, just more hate-mongering in plain sight (with faces wrapped up ofc).

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NecessaryNC24 · 26/05/2024 08:38

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Oh dear.

Do you also think Covid was a conspiracy ?

I think you dropped your tin foil hat.

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BibiSuzanne · 26/05/2024 08:21

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I am in those marches and I can categorically tell you I am not pro Hamas.
But you said it and 'meant' it so it must be fact.

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Parkingt111 · 26/05/2024 08:17

@NecessaryNC24 calling all Pro-Palestinian protestors 'pro-Hamas' is as ridiculous as calling all those who support Israel as 'pro-genocide'

There's been millions of marchers, are you saying they are all pro-Hamas?

NecessaryNC24 · 26/05/2024 08:03

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ConnieCounter · 26/05/2024 01:11

When I was a young teenager a police officer told my parents he saw a photo of me at a protest against the war in Iraq in a police file. I don't cover my face at protests but I am not thrilled to know that the police keep my photo on file when I exercise some basic democratic rights. So covering one's face is probably wise in many cases.

That's so creepy! I'm sorry that happened. It's unnecessary, too. Attending peaceful protests isn't against the law, there shouldn't a photo of you on file at all! When I was at a protest last week, I spotted a police officer with what I believe to be a facial recognition camera. That was a bit unsettling.

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 26/05/2024 01:37

Scirocco · 26/05/2024 01:04

@10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne at least his mummy is proud of him. Guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Although she probably should have considered the implications of outing her son and his criminal conduct to the world.

You're right about that, I see where he got it from. Although I am also surprised she outed him like that, but I guess hateful bigots aren't the brightest bunch. What really upsets me, was the lack of police response. The attack lasted for hours, it's a miracle noone was killed! The police were quick to tackle middle aged professors to the ground, but do nothing when violent mob attacks the students! It's insane! 😡

ShambalaAnna · 26/05/2024 01:22

MyGreenFinch · 25/05/2024 21:30

A native statement by someone who has clearly grown up in a free country.

If you mean the UK, I have some bad news on that front related to freedom of protest and other matters that many seemingly think only happen in the DPRK.

ConnieCounter · 26/05/2024 01:11

When I was a young teenager a police officer told my parents he saw a photo of me at a protest against the war in Iraq in a police file. I don't cover my face at protests but I am not thrilled to know that the police keep my photo on file when I exercise some basic democratic rights. So covering one's face is probably wise in many cases.

BobbyBiscuits · 26/05/2024 01:04

@NecessaryNC24 equally, a question one could pose would be 'why do protestors sometimes openly show their faces?' when they know it could open them up to having their day to day lives impacted simply by exercising their right to share their views?
If some believe the reasons why people cover their faces in marches etc is they're ashamed, I think it's the opposite. Obviously they don't want to be personally singled out by those who opposed their views. In the protest marches, people are acting as one of many. Their cause and purpose is more important than one person's identity being obvious.

Scirocco · 26/05/2024 01:04

@10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne at least his mummy is proud of him. Guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Although she probably should have considered the implications of outing her son and his criminal conduct to the world.

ConnieCounter · 26/05/2024 00:54

Hugosmaid · 25/05/2024 21:44

No. We have had Jewish people terrified to walk the streets of London. We are not in Palestine this is the U.K. If you’re going to be a part of that - don’t be a coward show your face. Stand by what you believe. You are walking amongst Hamas sympathisers.

What’s happening in Palestine is awful but it’s beyond the reach of the U.K. These matches are something else.

Why were pro Israeli protesters wearing face coverings this week? Presumably to protect their identity which is their right.

Are you outraged about that?

BibiSuzanne · 25/05/2024 22:16

@Hugosmaid are you bored? Has it been too long since someone has put down the Palestinians?
Have you been on the marches or have you just watched the carefully filmed footage? I have been to every single one and the large majority actually do not wear masks.
Don't play the Hamas card. You know full well what the marches are about. If you don't, come along and see for yourself and listen to the speeches. If you are Jewish you will be welcomed and treated with respect. Many Jewish men wearing the yarmulke/kippha march with us.

I keep telling myself not to respond to these threads as you really don't want an answer. You just want to goad and insult.

Parkingt111 · 25/05/2024 22:16

Scirocco · 25/05/2024 21:27

Many people wear masks at protests and events, for a range of different reasons. It's not just a pro-Palestinian protest thing.

EDL people and the like often use face coverings so they can't be identified and outed as nasty violent racists.

Some people choose to wear face coverings because there can be a real risk of them and their families being targeted and harassed due to identification on social media.

Some people wear face coverings because of infection control/ air pollution/ etc.

Some people wear face coverings for cultural or religious reasons.

Exactly

Parkingt111 · 25/05/2024 22:15

Pro- Hamas 🙄
If you look at all the marches that have taken place then there's well over a million participants.
Are you saying they are all pro Hamas?

ssd · 25/05/2024 21:56

@NecessaryNC24 , why do you presume there are pro-Hamas supporters on mn that can answer you? I've never seen any.

PearlKoala · 25/05/2024 21:51

People have lost their jobs for being Pro Palestinian. Lots of people regard pro Palestinian protesters as mobs of antisemitic Hamas supporters, if my boss was one of those I would probably hide my face too. You only have to see the hostility here on mumsnet to know that it is true. Thread after thread insulting those who stand up for Palestine, really vile, nasty stuff. Since this conflict started standing against war crimes and crimes against humanity has suddenly become controversial, some people want to protect themselves and their families and I don't blame them.

Scirocco · 25/05/2024 21:51

You seem very angry, @Hugosmaid , and I'm not sure why that anger is being directed at me, when all I've said is an explanation of why people on protests (of all sorts) might choose to wear face coverings.