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Why the need to cover up ?

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NecessaryNC24 · 25/05/2024 21:06

Genuine question: why do pro -Hamas protesters feel the need to cover their faces during protests.

Are you ultimately ashamed ?

If that was the reason I would understand, to be affiliated with terrorists, where actual infants are still held as hostages if not actually dead yet, yeah I'd be truly ashamed.

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BibiSuzanne · 26/05/2024 13:16

@blurry5205 it had been debunked at first fairly recently after doubts about Nat Schwartz's report in the New York Times.
I failed to carry on researching. However I did research again for the purpose of this post. Is that alright now?

blurry5205 · 26/05/2024 12:45

BibiSuzanne · 26/05/2024 10:18

But I apologise re the rape being debunked. I went searching for the articles but apparently the debunking has now been debunked too.

Maybe you should've spend the two minutes needed to check that before automatically saying such a disgusting thing about rape victims.

NecessaryNC24 · 26/05/2024 12:34

BibiSuzanne · 26/05/2024 10:41

Filthy hate speech? For apologising?

Doesn't fit your narrative does it?

It takes a lot to shock me but on a site like MN it hits a new level, maybe I'd have unfortunately expected it from Reddit or YouTube.

But fucking women deliberately Disbelieving fellow girls and women that have been RAPED in fear of their lives, some didn't live, how anyone can deny the footage of that poor girl Shani Louk I will never know.

If you are parents of girls you should be thoroughly ashamed , and yes, I understand now the inclination to cover your face. You've made that clear.

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PearlKoala · 26/05/2024 12:22

ginasevern · 26/05/2024 11:37

To be fair, there isn't a lot of anti Hamas sentiment though is there? In my line of work I engage with a lot of university students and many of them have told me they regard Hamas as freedom fighters. None of them seem to be talking about women's, girl's or gay rights under that regime.

Palestine must be free but it must also be freed from its misogynistic, medieval rulers as well.

I think part of the issue there is when gays and women and girls are being blown to pieces and starved to death that is kind of more of a pressing issue than whether or not Palestine has a pride parade. Israels policies in Gaza are disproportionately affecting women and girls, girls are struggling with their periods, children are more prone to malnutrition and starvation, pregnant and breast feeding women are being affected terribly with lack of adequate food and health care. Israel are right now the biggest threat to anyone in Gaza. To start talking about gay rights etc at a time when everybody is being blown to pieces and starved seems like whataboutery. Lots of things should happen after but right now there are clearly more pressing issues.

ginasevern · 26/05/2024 11:37

To be fair, there isn't a lot of anti Hamas sentiment though is there? In my line of work I engage with a lot of university students and many of them have told me they regard Hamas as freedom fighters. None of them seem to be talking about women's, girl's or gay rights under that regime.

Palestine must be free but it must also be freed from its misogynistic, medieval rulers as well.

TheWayTheLightFalls · 26/05/2024 11:37

I think “actual supporters of a proscribed terrorist organisation” covers it, per PP. That doesn’t mean that everyone or even a majority of people on these marches are pro-Hamas, but it acknowledges that there is a cohort which is. There is also a cohort that doesn’t know their arse from their elbow when it comes to the Middle East but are happy to sling on a keffiyeh and chant “from the river to the sea”, which frankly I find more dangerous and problematic.

Scirocco · 26/05/2024 11:23

@NecessaryNC24 if you want to know why actual supporters of a proscribed terrorist organisation might cover their faces, direct from them, you'd really need to ask them. I've explained a possible reason, but it sounds like you actually want to hear from them directly, so you'd need to go find them and ask them.

Most of my recent direct experience of violent thugs and extremists has been with the EDL and similar and people out supporting the IDF, but I'd imagine the basic principles of being bullies and wanting to avoid consequences for their actions would likely apply.

BibiSuzanne · 26/05/2024 11:19

@Hugosmaid
Read my post. I apologised.

Hugosmaid · 26/05/2024 11:18

Mangled** not managed

Hugosmaid · 26/05/2024 11:16

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I seen the dead managed naked body of a woman on the back of a pick up truck. A man grabbed her by her hair and raised her lifeless head - the crowd were cheering and spitting on her body. She had been to a festival.

I seen a woman being dragged out of the back of a 4x4 by her hair. She had blood on the seat of her pants. Her hands were bound and her ankles had lacerations. She was a female soldier who was later found dead

Those were the first two live videos on Twitter that morning.

Dont you dare deny those women were raped. What the fuck is wrong with you people 🤯

BibiSuzanne · 26/05/2024 11:06

And???
I still checked.

quantumbutterfly · 26/05/2024 10:53

It's almost June and you've just decided to check disinformation on the hamas attack last October.

Is it possible the situation is more complicated than Israel guilty, Gaza innocent?

BibiSuzanne · 26/05/2024 10:41

Filthy hate speech? For apologising?

Doesn't fit your narrative does it?

quantumbutterfly · 26/05/2024 10:35

What an interesting twix she has.

quantumbutterfly · 26/05/2024 10:28

BelleHathor · 26/05/2024 09:31

Perhaps because they don't want to encounter unhinged ex IDF soldiers like this? who felt entitled to racially abuse (including pulling her Hijab off) a woman at Whitechapel Station. He even lurched towards the woman recording, as if to hit her before other people stepped in.

https://x.com/KerryBurgess/status/1794442756347015588

trigger warning he says some disgusting Islamaphobic things.

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She lost me at 'zionism is cemented in it's belief in superiority over Arab peoples'.…..

NecessaryNC24 · 26/05/2024 10:26

BibiSuzanne · 26/05/2024 10:18

But I apologise re the rape being debunked. I went searching for the articles but apparently the debunking has now been debunked too.

I've reported your filthy hate speech.

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Australia77 · 26/05/2024 10:19

BibiSuzanne · 26/05/2024 10:18

But I apologise re the rape being debunked. I went searching for the articles but apparently the debunking has now been debunked too.

Why on earth would women make up stories about being raped? Have you taken the time to watch the videos? Disgusting savages.

BibiSuzanne · 26/05/2024 10:18

But I apologise re the rape being debunked. I went searching for the articles but apparently the debunking has now been debunked too.

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Australia77 · 26/05/2024 10:08

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You are clearly just an antisemite. True colours exposed.

Australia77 · 26/05/2024 10:07

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The rapes were debunked? What a foul thing to say.

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NecessaryNC24 · 26/05/2024 09:33

I'm not engaging with you further. Your denial is sickening.

I 100% support everything you have said on this post. And to the poster that is somehow criticizing Israel for not managing to stop the animals that raped, murdered and kidnapped their citizen - what a disgusting, shameful thing to say. I honestly don't know how people live with themselves. Women have been raped, murdered, kidnapped by these savages. Where is the outrage?

BibiSuzanne · 26/05/2024 09:51

NecessaryNC24 · 26/05/2024 09:33

I'm not engaging with you further. Your denial is sickening.

Who are you not engaging with? Whose denial is sickening?
Is it because I asked you about pro Hamas chants? I did not deny anything. I was honest and said I don't know any. So why don't you tell me instead of bowing out ( and probably name changing ).

NecessaryNC24 · 26/05/2024 09:33

I'm not engaging with you further. Your denial is sickening.

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