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New Hamas video of hostages

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Muthaofcats · 22/05/2024 17:00

The new Hamas video released today of the female hostages selected as the ones they planned to get pregnant was so sickening and I wish I hadn’t seen it.

however, I am also wondering WHY it has not been more widely picked up and broadcast? I don’t understand the silence from the bleeding left; why don’t they see stuff like this and not just feel desperate and sick about those poor poor girls and their families who must be beyond devastated.

Watching the men in those videos helps to counter balance the idea of Israel as the aggressor. I wish more would see it and reflect or even just place those women of equal value to those in Gaza.

How is the world so perverse right now that this warrants a shrug from so many? Or worse, is viewed as justified !?

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blackcherryconserve · 23/05/2024 22:00

keenforhelp see my post above yours. I am fuming that someone can write such patronising bilge.

keenforhelp · 23/05/2024 21:58

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So many diabolical statements in this post, I hardly know where to begin.

blackcherryconserve · 23/05/2024 21:57

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mollyfolk · 23/05/2024 21:57

I totally agree - very shocking post . I don’t think any of us should dismiss rape. It’s not ok to rape any woman even if you consider them a legitimate military target. Rape should never be used as a weapon. No human should be treated like this.

I don’t like some people using videos like this to justify the death and destruction in Gaza. Particularly as, from what I understand, as the family released the videos to put pressure on the Israeli authorities to negotiate the release of the hostages. I believe the path to peace starts with dialogue not more destruction and despair. My heart goes out to these young girls and their families, I hope they can be released.

SharonEllis · 23/05/2024 21:53

ChickyBricky · 23/05/2024 21:52

but "no issue whatsoever with Jewish people" obvs! 🤪

Clearly. My god.

ChickyBricky · 23/05/2024 21:52

SharonEllis · 23/05/2024 21:51

You are plumbing news depths with this one. I don't believe for one minute that you give a shit about peace with such nastiness in your heart.

but "no issue whatsoever with Jewish people" obvs! 🤪

SharonEllis · 23/05/2024 21:51

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You are plumbing news depths with this one. I don't believe for one minute that you give a shit about peace with such nastiness in your heart.

ChickyBricky · 23/05/2024 21:49

Hardly new, unfortunately...

LordPercyPercy · 23/05/2024 21:47

I've Googled it and it says they are 5 isreali soldiers?

Who are also teenage girls, snatched in their pajamas.

@AnotherDelphinium your post is truly disgraceful. A new low.

ChickyBricky · 23/05/2024 21:46

Ategnatos · 23/05/2024 21:42

That's sick. That's just really fucking sick.

Yes, this is what we're dealing with on a regular basis. And yet the relevance of this thread was questioned.

My only consolation is that, if there is a future, this sort of thing is recorded for posterity. Maybe a generation of schoolchildren will cringe over it... until it happens all over again, half a century later. Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose...

EasternStandard · 23/05/2024 21:44

Ategnatos · 23/05/2024 21:42

That's sick. That's just really fucking sick.

It is

Humdingerydoo · 23/05/2024 21:43

So now we can hopefully stop having posters say "no one is minimising or denying anything" because as you can see ⬆️, people like Delphinium do

Ategnatos · 23/05/2024 21:42

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That's sick. That's just really fucking sick.

ChickyBricky · 23/05/2024 21:41

Blimey 🤯

It's at this point that I usually delete my account in despair.

AnotherDelphinium · 23/05/2024 21:38

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Februaryfeels · 23/05/2024 21:22

Cantthinkofone123 · 23/05/2024 20:46

8 pages long poster are in awe of the situation 100 odd people find themselves in...but absolutely not a word of condemnation of Israels atrocities, thay has resulted in the killing of 30k+ and nearly 2 million starving.

Did you read any of the 8 pages?

Some people have mentioned it and been quite rightly told that this is not what the thread is about

Mummy2024 · 23/05/2024 21:20

LordPercyPercy · 23/05/2024 21:03

@Cantthinkofone123 there are plenty of threads discussing that. These women are entitled to sympathy and horror at their plight too.

I've just seen something about hostage bodies discovered in an UNRWA building but how confirmed it is I'm uncertain.

Absolutely correct, they deserve justice every bit as much. I hope they are safe and well and make it home.

Mummy2024 · 23/05/2024 21:18

Muthaofcats · 22/05/2024 17:00

The new Hamas video released today of the female hostages selected as the ones they planned to get pregnant was so sickening and I wish I hadn’t seen it.

however, I am also wondering WHY it has not been more widely picked up and broadcast? I don’t understand the silence from the bleeding left; why don’t they see stuff like this and not just feel desperate and sick about those poor poor girls and their families who must be beyond devastated.

Watching the men in those videos helps to counter balance the idea of Israel as the aggressor. I wish more would see it and reflect or even just place those women of equal value to those in Gaza.

How is the world so perverse right now that this warrants a shrug from so many? Or worse, is viewed as justified !?

Selected as the ones to get pregnant? Who said this? I've Googled it and it says they are 5 isreali soldiers? Not that them being in the forces justifies it. It doesn't the perpetrators of these crimes should be in the Hague, but i really hate propaganda and unless there is some material evidence that these hostages were taken to get pregnant, then that's all it is.

Pieceofpurplesky · 23/05/2024 21:13

I cannot begin to comprehend how those women and their families feel. It's beyond horrific. My heart goes out to all who lost someone, was injured or knew someone involved in 7 October. These hostages need to come home. I also feel heartbroken for the innocent Palestinians who have been killed, lost family and homes.

As with every war and conflict an evil minority rain terror on the innocents - from both sides.
I wish there was an answer.

takemeawayagain · 23/05/2024 21:10

I haven't seen anything about this, it's shocking that it didn't make the front page BBC when Diddy's violence did (not that that's ok in any way). It's just appalling that Netanyahu hasn't prioritised getting the poor hostages home safely. I can't imagine what their families are going through.

Scirocco · 23/05/2024 21:04

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 23/05/2024 20:40

This what you took from the video?

What's your interpretation of it?

The poster you quoted may have a different understanding from me, but it sounded to me like the 'man' in the video said "sabaya". That's a word which broadly translates as 'female captives'. I think the intent of those 'men' looks pretty clearly laid out in the footage, though.

LordPercyPercy · 23/05/2024 21:03

@Cantthinkofone123 there are plenty of threads discussing that. These women are entitled to sympathy and horror at their plight too.

I've just seen something about hostage bodies discovered in an UNRWA building but how confirmed it is I'm uncertain.

Ategnatos · 23/05/2024 20:54

Cantthinkofone123 · 23/05/2024 20:46

8 pages long poster are in awe of the situation 100 odd people find themselves in...but absolutely not a word of condemnation of Israels atrocities, thay has resulted in the killing of 30k+ and nearly 2 million starving.

If you'd bothered to read the thread you'd know that's not true. You're not the first person to come on here complaining that people are not talking about the only thing you think they're allowed to talk about.

Cantthinkofone123 · 23/05/2024 20:46

8 pages long poster are in awe of the situation 100 odd people find themselves in...but absolutely not a word of condemnation of Israels atrocities, thay has resulted in the killing of 30k+ and nearly 2 million starving.

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