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TheFirmBiscuit · 21/05/2024 18:34

EasterIssland · 21/05/2024 18:26

Punishing for doing their job?

He's Trump's lap dog in the House that has denied aid for 6 months to Ukraine because ...Trump. Daddy Trump doesn't like the rule of law anywhere....

I feel sorry for the prosecutors they are noble honourable people with impeccable careers. They have put their personal safety on the line for just following the law. According to Netanhayu he is the most notorious anti-semite since WW2 (he really said that).

Karim is a barrister and King's Counsel with more than 30 years of professional experience as an international criminal law and human rights lawyer. He has extensive experience as a prosecutor, victim's counsel and defence lawyer in domestic and international criminal tribunals, including, but not limited to, the International Criminal Court, International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda, International Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia, the Extraordinary Chambers in the Courts of Cambodia, the Special Tribunal for Lebanon and the Special Court for Sierra Leone. He has also represented victims of human rights violations in Africa and Asia. Karim is a Bencher of Lincoln's Inn and was appointed a Recorder of the Crown Court in 2018. He was elected as the second President of the ICC Bar Association in July 2017 and is a worldwide Ambassador of the African Bar Association. He has published a number of leading texts on international criminal law and is the co-author of 'Archbold International Criminal Courts', now in US 5th edition.

https://www.icc-cpi.int/about/otp/who-s-who/karim-khan

Mummy2024 · 21/05/2024 18:31

keenforhelp · 21/05/2024 18:25

@Mummy2024 I did NOT say and nor do I support indiscriminate bombing and deliberate starvation. Your posts to me are inflammatory and goady.

Stop now please.

I apologise if I've gotten the wrong impression from your posts, if I could remove the specific comment I would but I'm still trying to find out how to do so on here. Hopefully mum's net will do it for me.

Mummy2024 · 21/05/2024 18:28

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Well your denying it equates to genocide arnt you? And calling anyone that wants it to stop antisemitic? This is the first comment you've actually responded on that I've written and it was to silence me... if I'm wrong say so... I'll happily appologise and I'll be very glad I'm wrong.

EasterIssland · 21/05/2024 18:26

Punishing for doing their job?

Israel Gaza war: ICC prosecutor seeks arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Hamas leaders
keenforhelp · 21/05/2024 18:25

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@Mummy2024 I did NOT say and nor do I support indiscriminate bombing and deliberate starvation. Your posts to me are inflammatory and goady.

Stop now please.

Mummy2024 · 21/05/2024 18:17

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keenforhelp · 21/05/2024 18:16

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Mummy2024 · 21/05/2024 18:05

keenforhelp · 21/05/2024 11:53

Well said Biden. Continue at your peril, Khan, Clooney et al.

"Biden said that Israel is not committing genocide in Gaza."

And reported in Al Jazeera so no accusations that it is cobblers if it was reported in the DM or DT.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/5/21/no-equivalence-biden-defends-israel-after-icc-requests-arrest-warrants#:~:text=In%20January%2C%20the%20ICJ%20ruled,genocidal%20acts%20from%20taking%20place.

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Biden says what ever suits American foreign policy best. Incase you haven't noticed the west doesn't have many friends in the middle east.... double standards to an extreme, we are in no doubt about the pit falls of politics influencing and being more important than a human life, when it comes to world politics. He'd had to air drop and build an entire pier because they arnt letting life preserving supplies though. I think his actions say more than his words...

Mummy2024 · 21/05/2024 17:57

SerendipityJane · 21/05/2024 17:56

A lack of respect for international law is not a good look,

Depends. Some countries like the UK seem get a real macho kick from it.

Sadly your correct. One rule for them...

SerendipityJane · 21/05/2024 17:56

A lack of respect for international law is not a good look,

Depends. Some countries like the UK seem get a real macho kick from it.

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Mummy2024 · 21/05/2024 17:45

keenforhelp · 21/05/2024 11:23

Wake up, no genocide should be accepted, by anyone. It has nothing to do with people's religious beliefs and everything to do with murdering and starving children. That goes for both sides. Lock them all up!!!

Kendodd · 21/05/2024 17:31

anotherlevel · 21/05/2024 14:12

Not necessarily on this particular thread but across the CITME board, I've seen posters:

-report posts for being antisemitic for any type of criticism of the Israeli government. The posts have then been deleted. There’s been a lot.

-Accuse posters of spreading misinformation by purposefully spreading an incorrect definition of antisemitism when they said the definition of antisemitism to include any questioning of the state of Israel.

-Posters then say that questioning the Israeli government isn’t antisemitic.

-and now that the ICC have sought arrest warrants for Netanyahu for war crimes, the ICC is accused of being antisemitic. Is bombing hospitals, mosques, schools, starving a population antisemitic? Because these are all war crimes that Netanyahu has been accused of.

So what is it then?

You just can’t make these things up.

It is really tiresome the constant accusations of antisemitism for anyone who dares criticis the actions of the Israeli government. I'm sick of it. Its not just individual posters that have been accused of antisemitism. I've seen the UN, the WHO, the UK, the ICC and other international organisations all accused of antisemitism over these threads. One poster on the "AMA I live in TelAviv", and others piled on to agree, called the UN Nazis.

Efacsen · 21/05/2024 17:24

Qatar's not a signatory either so don't know what that will mean wrt to removing Hanihya from his bolthole

TheFirmBiscuit · 21/05/2024 17:16

PeasfullPerson · 21/05/2024 16:44

I think that the US and UK will be putting themselves in a really bad position unless they respect the outcome of this, and can restrain themselves from trying to pull the strings. A lack of respect for international law is not a good look, it makes for poor global relations, and one day they might want it to be upheld to protect themselves.

China / Russia are looking to have some sort of "autocratic leadership" in a multipolar world particular with the "Global South". This is a god given bonus to them to say looks at your international rules based order , look at your lecturing on human rights and moral authority. Your emporer has no clothes. Don't lecture us on Ukraine or the Uyghers or Tibet - we ain't listening and we don't care. Like Israel and the US they aren't signatories either. Very convenient.

PeasfullPerson · 21/05/2024 16:44

I think that the US and UK will be putting themselves in a really bad position unless they respect the outcome of this, and can restrain themselves from trying to pull the strings. A lack of respect for international law is not a good look, it makes for poor global relations, and one day they might want it to be upheld to protect themselves.

AdamRyan · 21/05/2024 16:13

anotherlevel · 21/05/2024 15:47

Apologies @AdamRyan.
Glad to see that poster has now gone.

Not you - I was not being specific as don't want to provide any reporting opportunities
It's so frustrating though

anotherlevel · 21/05/2024 15:47

AdamRyan · 21/05/2024 15:35

Honestly. Can we just discuss what's happening without the name calling? It's really derailing an item currently in the global news.

Apologies @AdamRyan.
Glad to see that poster has now gone.

BelleHathor · 21/05/2024 15:44

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Efacsen · 21/05/2024 15:43

AdamRyan · 21/05/2024 15:35

Honestly. Can we just discuss what's happening without the name calling? It's really derailing an item currently in the global news.

So so many threads go this way now and I have half the board hidden to avoid them

It's so tiresome

Efacsen · 21/05/2024 15:40

Think this is sooner than expected

ICC decision on arrest warrants expected in weeks

The ICC prosecutor’s request for arrest warrants for Israeli and Hamas leaders will now go to the court’s pre-trial chamber.

They have to decide if the arguments that Karim Khan, the prosecutor, mentioned as reason for the arrests are valid. Then they will look to see if the ICC has jurisdiction and if there is a valid reason to arrest these people.

There is no fixed timeline. But if we look at the case last year – arrest warrant for Putin – it took about three weeks between the request and the actual decision. So we are expecting this to happen in a few weeks.

SerendipityJane · 21/05/2024 15:39

AdamRyan · 21/05/2024 15:35

Honestly. Can we just discuss what's happening without the name calling? It's really derailing an item currently in the global news.

It's so effective, it's hard to believe it's an accident ....

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AdamRyan · 21/05/2024 15:35

Honestly. Can we just discuss what's happening without the name calling? It's really derailing an item currently in the global news.

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