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If all Palestinians leave Gaza, are Israel then allowed to claim the land?

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TERFCat · 19/05/2024 08:28

Sorry, for the simplicity of what I'm saying. I'm new to this and trying to learn. Smile

From what I've seen, many Palestinians in Gaza are being moved to camps elsewhere. Sadly, many have been killed too.

The photos of the area suggest that much of Gaza is ruined and will need to be re-built.

If hypothetically all Palestinians were moved elsewhere, would Israel then be able to "claim" Gaza? Would the UN etc be allowed to stop them? Would the West Bank be able to claim it?

Any insight appreciated?

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Kindatired · 25/05/2024 23:36

No,@whatsitcalledwhen is condemning both. She’s waiting for you to condemn the untargetted slaughter of innocent civilians. 2% of the children of Gaza have been killled and a further 6% have suffered catastrophic life altering injuries- amputation, brain damage , blindness, not something that needs a bandaid. 20,000 children have been orphaned.

But maybe you think Israeli the lives of Palastinian children are worth less than Israeli children or that they deserve to suffer because of the actions of Hamas?

Livelovebehappy · 25/05/2024 22:19

Auvergne63 · 25/05/2024 19:04

In order to say it is factual, you need to provide evidence that it is.; otherwise, it's your opinion.

Erm, so you are denying that Hamas raped and murdered Israeli festival goers on 7the October? Then enlighten me. What did they do? Join them for a dance and some fast food? I’m all ears……

whatsitcalledwhen · 25/05/2024 21:54

@LauraNorda

They just want victimhood.

Yeah I bet the tens of thousands of people killed so far, including children, really enjoyed claiming victimhood before their deaths...

It's perfectly possibly to condemn the massacre of 7/10 and the campaign that has killed tens of thousands of civilians in Palestine since.

Do you condemn both, or only condemn the horrific slaughtering of Israelis on 7/10. Surely if you condemn that, you condemn what's happening in Palestine too?

mactire · 25/05/2024 21:48

I believe it’s been their plan all along tbh. Since October, we’ve been seeing the process drastically sped up. And after all, no one has stepped in to protect Palestinians thus far, so of course Israel will feel they can snatch what they want.

Superfoodie123 · 25/05/2024 21:43

LauraNorda · 19/05/2024 08:51

Israel left Gaza completely in 2005. Removed by force all Jewish settlers and even took all the Jewish graves.

Israel is not interested in Gaza.

Lol. How are people this deluded/dumb

Bumblebee907 · 25/05/2024 21:36

Israel ❤️

MixedCouple · 25/05/2024 21:29

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OneGreenPlayer · 25/05/2024 19:47

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Auvergne63 · 25/05/2024 19:04

Livelovebehappy · 25/05/2024 18:44

And which part of what i’ve said isn’t true? All of what I’ve said is factual.

In order to say it is factual, you need to provide evidence that it is.; otherwise, it's your opinion.

gingergran · 25/05/2024 18:52

The Palestinians haven’t left Gaza so your question makes no sense

SharonEllis · 25/05/2024 18:50

What is the point of this? Its not going to happen.

Livelovebehappy · 25/05/2024 18:44

Auvergne63 · 25/05/2024 17:14

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not. I hope it's the former.

And which part of what i’ve said isn’t true? All of what I’ve said is factual.

LauraNorda · 25/05/2024 18:37

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Auvergne63 · 25/05/2024 17:14

Livelovebehappy · 19/05/2024 11:05

They would just take it. And hopefully the palestines would then realise that it was Hamas who handed it to Israel on a plate. All because they felt like raping and murdering some israeli festival goers....

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not. I hope it's the former.

OneGreenPlayer · 25/05/2024 16:46

LauraNorda · 19/05/2024 08:51

Israel left Gaza completely in 2005. Removed by force all Jewish settlers and even took all the Jewish graves.

Israel is not interested in Gaza.

Israel never left completely. They still control the water, power and food supplies. Israel has imprisoned the Palestinians in Gaza by destroying their airport and blocking the port. There are already plans to build houses in Gaza and the illegal settlers are quite open about it.

Liv999 · 19/05/2024 12:11

The Israelis wouldn't be allowed to but they would still do it, they've been doing it for years but are still called a democratic country for some reason

Scirocco · 19/05/2024 11:18

LauraNorda · 19/05/2024 09:48

Can you provide a link to any credible source for any of your claims?

@LauraNorda what would you like?

There is considerable evidence of the existence of Israeli settlements in the Gaza Strip prior to their previous withdrawal. This can be confirmed by eyewitness accounts, satellite imagery of that time, government records, etc.

There have been repeated calls from politicians (including members of the current Israeli government), settler movements and others for the re-establishment of Israeli settlements in the Gaza Strip upon completion of the current military activity there. These have been widely documented in mainstream media.

There have been multiple records of significant politicians and business figures discussing the potential value of the land and sea for Israel, including members of the Israeli parliament and even the Trumps. This includes the basic value of coastal land in the region, facilitating access to maritime resources, strategic value, and the Ben Gurion canal proposals (I'll attach a link to an article that explains some of the potential value of the canal - the map with the article goes around the outside of Gaza, but there is a proposal that routing through Gaza would be more cost-effective and politically palatable).

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-ben-gurion-canal-vision-amidst-upheaval/

Livelovebehappy · 19/05/2024 11:05

They would just take it. And hopefully the palestines would then realise that it was Hamas who handed it to Israel on a plate. All because they felt like raping and murdering some israeli festival goers....

BibiSuzanne · 19/05/2024 10:59

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LauraNorda · 19/05/2024 10:56

BibiSuzanne · 19/05/2024 10:46

@LauraNorda Nope!! You can do your own research. It's all out there.

Yeah, figures. Complete pie in the sky.

BibiSuzanne · 19/05/2024 10:46

@LauraNorda Nope!! You can do your own research. It's all out there.

LauraNorda · 19/05/2024 10:01

sleepyscientist · 19/05/2024 09:57

@LauraNorda it the Gurion canal plan that had been floating round since the 1960's. I'm all for current Israel and Palestine to be combined into one none religious state but the canal seems like an uneconomically viable project considering the costs of war.

That is simply a proposal from the 1960s. Looking at the map in the link below, the proposed canal is entirely on Israeli territory so if they wanted to build it, they would have at least started by now.

https://www.newarab.com/news/what-israels-ben-gurion-canal-plan-and-why-gaza-matters

What is Israel's Ben Gurion canal plan and why Gaza matters

As Israel intensifies its Gaza onslaught, focus turns to the controversial Ben Gurion Canal Project, originally proposed in the 1960s as an alternative to the Suez Canal.

https://www.newarab.com/news/what-israels-ben-gurion-canal-plan-and-why-gaza-matters

mollyfolk · 19/05/2024 09:59

Still, Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

Lovely! Maybe Israel should kill them all just to be sure so. Sounds like you think they deserve it.

sleepyscientist · 19/05/2024 09:57

@LauraNorda it the Gurion canal plan that had been floating round since the 1960's. I'm all for current Israel and Palestine to be combined into one none religious state but the canal seems like an uneconomically viable project considering the costs of war.