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If all Palestinians leave Gaza, are Israel then allowed to claim the land?

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TERFCat · 19/05/2024 08:28

Sorry, for the simplicity of what I'm saying. I'm new to this and trying to learn. Smile

From what I've seen, many Palestinians in Gaza are being moved to camps elsewhere. Sadly, many have been killed too.

The photos of the area suggest that much of Gaza is ruined and will need to be re-built.

If hypothetically all Palestinians were moved elsewhere, would Israel then be able to "claim" Gaza? Would the UN etc be allowed to stop them? Would the West Bank be able to claim it?

Any insight appreciated?

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Auvergne63 · 26/05/2024 16:40

LauraNorda · 26/05/2024 16:18

Yeah, one of them should have been china.

Which one of those are you against? All of them are for hamas, by the way.

None. I find your hyperbole ludicrous and I am definitively pro something.
Pro humanity. Israeli lives and Palestinian lives are equal in my eyes, are they in yours?

LauraNorda · 26/05/2024 16:18

Auvergne63 · 26/05/2024 16:01

What ridiculous hyperbole! Being pro-Russia must the worst because you mentioned it twice.

Yeah, one of them should have been china.

Which one of those are you against? All of them are for hamas, by the way.

Auvergne63 · 26/05/2024 16:01

LauraNorda · 26/05/2024 15:19

She will never answer or condemn them.

Being pro-hamas is bad enough but then, by extention, you are also pro-iran, pro-houthi, pro-russia, pro-hezbollah, pro-russia and pro-north korea.

Just imagine what goes through your head to want to stand shoulder to shoulder with that bunch of degenerates.

What ridiculous hyperbole! Being pro-Russia must the worst because you mentioned it twice.

BibiSuzanne · 26/05/2024 15:44

@Livelovebehappy don't dare tell me my apology was not genuine. Ffs!

LauraNorda · 26/05/2024 15:19

blurry5205 · 26/05/2024 14:31

So do you think Hamas are not terrorists? That October 7th was justified? Because it kind of sounds like you do.

She will never answer or condemn them.

Being pro-hamas is bad enough but then, by extention, you are also pro-iran, pro-houthi, pro-russia, pro-hezbollah, pro-russia and pro-north korea.

Just imagine what goes through your head to want to stand shoulder to shoulder with that bunch of degenerates.

blurry5205 · 26/05/2024 14:31

justaanothermum · 26/05/2024 14:30

Blurry AND you're not answering mine. Same with the people you're trying to defend.
To defend themselves they are KILLING, RAPING AND MURDERING. As self defence. Right? Isn't that what Israel is doing?
I end this discussion here. The hypocrisy and contradiction from people who defend Israel is mind blowing.

So do you think Hamas are not terrorists? That October 7th was justified? Because it kind of sounds like you do.

justaanothermum · 26/05/2024 14:30

Blurry AND you're not answering mine. Same with the people you're trying to defend.
To defend themselves they are KILLING, RAPING AND MURDERING. As self defence. Right? Isn't that what Israel is doing?
I end this discussion here. The hypocrisy and contradiction from people who defend Israel is mind blowing.

blurry5205 · 26/05/2024 14:27

justaanothermum · 26/05/2024 14:22

Blurry Gaza have been starved, Gaza is controlled by Israel for years. Doesn't that ring a bell for you? Why are you soooo eager to call a group of people terrorists? Isn't Israel a terrorist state that has been killing for more than six months? Just to be clear now I ASK are you saying Israel is allowed to kill and not be called terrorist? The fact that you picked those words tell me where you stand.
Again, if you press on a group of people for far too long there will be consequences. I won't Hamas of anything. I know that if someone tried to deny you access to basic stuff in this life you would do what you could to free yourself.

That doesn't really answer my questions.

If someone tried to deny me access to basic stuff I would not rape, kidnap or murder anyone.

justaanothermum · 26/05/2024 14:22

Blurry Gaza have been starved, Gaza is controlled by Israel for years. Doesn't that ring a bell for you? Why are you soooo eager to call a group of people terrorists? Isn't Israel a terrorist state that has been killing for more than six months? Just to be clear now I ASK are you saying Israel is allowed to kill and not be called terrorist? The fact that you picked those words tell me where you stand.
Again, if you press on a group of people for far too long there will be consequences. I won't Hamas of anything. I know that if someone tried to deny you access to basic stuff in this life you would do what you could to free yourself.

blurry5205 · 26/05/2024 14:15

justaanothermum · 26/05/2024 14:05

Livelovebehappy you, yoursel is actually blinkered in her own echo chamber.
If Israel wasn’t trying to punish people of Gaza with keeping food from people of Gaza, controll their water supplies there would be no need to create an organisation that would fight them back and resist.
Why was Hamas created?
Why are you trying to gaslight us?
Israel is exposed wether you like it or not. Their agenda is to take Gaza. Some may have believed Israel at the beginning, until they didn’t believe it anymore. And no one but pathetic people like you still believe this lie. It’s called GENOCIDE AND OCCUPATION.
I wonder Livelovebehappy, if someone came to your own home pretending to be homeless, you give them a room and eventually they fight with you to take your whole house. What would happen? Would you accept it and moved out or you would fight it?
And if you would would fight it, neighbours would call you a terrorist for fighting back. Simplify things and change your perspective, you’ll understand things better.

I wonder Livelovebehappy, if someone came to your own home pretending to be homeless, you give them a room and eventually they fight with you to take your whole house. What would happen? Would you accept it and moved out or you would fight it?
And if you would would fight it, neighbours would call you a terrorist for fighting back. Simplify things and change your perspective, you’ll understand things better.

Just to be clear, are you saying Hamas are not terrorist? Are you calling what happened on October 7th fighting back?

justaanothermum · 26/05/2024 14:05

Livelovebehappy you, yoursel is actually blinkered in her own echo chamber.
If Israel wasn’t trying to punish people of Gaza with keeping food from people of Gaza, controll their water supplies there would be no need to create an organisation that would fight them back and resist.
Why was Hamas created?
Why are you trying to gaslight us?
Israel is exposed wether you like it or not. Their agenda is to take Gaza. Some may have believed Israel at the beginning, until they didn’t believe it anymore. And no one but pathetic people like you still believe this lie. It’s called GENOCIDE AND OCCUPATION.
I wonder Livelovebehappy, if someone came to your own home pretending to be homeless, you give them a room and eventually they fight with you to take your whole house. What would happen? Would you accept it and moved out or you would fight it?
And if you would would fight it, neighbours would call you a terrorist for fighting back. Simplify things and change your perspective, you’ll understand things better.

Livelovebehappy · 26/05/2024 13:49

BibiSuzanne · 26/05/2024 13:45

Dont trivialise my apology to suit your narrative. It was genuine.

Of course it was….

BibiSuzanne · 26/05/2024 13:45

Dont trivialise my apology to suit your narrative. It was genuine.

Livelovebehappy · 26/05/2024 13:38

BibiSuzanne · 26/05/2024 10:44

One thread. I got it wrong and I apologised.

But the quotes out there. You clearly feel it, or wouldn’t have quoted it. Are you saying sorry for saying it openly, rather than keeping it to yourself, even though it’s something that you believe? Surely you can’t say something like that and then say ‘oops, sorry, don’t know why I said that as I don’t really believe it’.

Livelovebehappy · 26/05/2024 13:34

Auvergne63 · 26/05/2024 09:09

I am starting to believe that you have difficulties with comprehension.

No. Unfortunately it’s you who has trouble with comprehension. I have an opinion. You have a different one. As with other similar posts to this, there really is no point in debating with people who are so blinkered, in their own echo chamber. A point that has been ignored - why do you think Hamas are refusing to release the remaining hostages? They released the others some weeks ago. Israel have asked for their release so that a cease fire can be put in place. Hamas could, as they did with the others, negotiate to release some of the jailed Palestinians in exchange. My opinion is that the remaining hostages have been murdered, or been raped and tortured in captivity, and to release them would expose Hamas for the savages they are. I’m guessing you will say that of course there are none, because Israel killed them accidentally as they were collateral damage during the bombings. I would disagree on the basis that had this been the case, Hamas would have already declared this. Ironically, we are both wanting the war to stop, but both have different views on how this should be achieved. I say, release the hostages, and then sit down at the table to discuss with third party mediators. You say stop the bombings with hostage release not being a condition, because apparently their murders and torture were necessary to get the terrorist’s point across, and so don’t matter.

LauraNorda · 26/05/2024 11:56

79Helene · 26/05/2024 11:13

@LauraNorda I bet I can't either, because I wasn't aiming that at you, which I think was pretty obvious.

@79Helene Now that I have noticed you were replying to BibiSuzanne, who would absolutely say such things, I understand your annoyance.

In fairness to BibiSuzanne, at least she apologised but people should really check their sources before posting such falsehoods.

BibiSuzanne · 26/05/2024 11:21

79Helene · 26/05/2024 11:13

@LauraNorda I bet I can't either, because I wasn't aiming that at you, which I think was pretty obvious.

It was aimed at me and I had apologised

79Helene · 26/05/2024 11:13

@LauraNorda I bet I can't either, because I wasn't aiming that at you, which I think was pretty obvious.

LauraNorda · 26/05/2024 11:13

justaanothermum · 26/05/2024 10:32

You call it trendy Laura Norda, I call it genocide.
Killing children everyday and trying to defend them is a trend to you. Not to me. Terrorist that started and terrorists that keep murdering. For the land. Keep replying, exposing yourself and what a fool you are.

Yes, everything you just said is true of hamas and you keep defending them. It is not me that is being exposed.

LauraNorda · 26/05/2024 11:10

79Helene · 26/05/2024 10:43

Trendy is not a word I would have used, but given that you don't think twice about spreading rape denial on other threads, you might want to sit your faux shock out on this one.

Rape denial? I bet you can't link to a single instance of me doing that.

BibiSuzanne · 26/05/2024 10:44

One thread. I got it wrong and I apologised.

79Helene · 26/05/2024 10:43

BibiSuzanne · 26/05/2024 10:34

Trendy???? Wtf?

Trendy is not a word I would have used, but given that you don't think twice about spreading rape denial on other threads, you might want to sit your faux shock out on this one.

BibiSuzanne · 26/05/2024 10:34

Trendy???? Wtf?

justaanothermum · 26/05/2024 10:32

You call it trendy Laura Norda, I call it genocide.
Killing children everyday and trying to defend them is a trend to you. Not to me. Terrorist that started and terrorists that keep murdering. For the land. Keep replying, exposing yourself and what a fool you are.

LauraNorda · 26/05/2024 10:29

justaanothermum · 26/05/2024 09:13

Laura Norda and Live love be happy is just two of you. You're the delusional ones, trying your hardest to convince us that Israel is just defending themselves or they don't want the land.
They want the land, Netanyahu stated it himself. They will start taking over the land and "rebuild it".
Thinking you can fool us here, you're the fool. Both of you.

I would rather stand alone in opposing these terrorists rather than jump on the trendy bandwagon like you.

You probably turn a blind eye to the cowering mods on here who pull any post that even slightly critisises hamas or gazans compliance with them.

If Israel really wanted this postage stamp piece of land, why pull out in 2005?