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UK revokes visa of law student who addressed pro-Palestine protest

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NotSoBigCrocodile · 17/05/2024 13:56

With all the recent threads about the protests, I wonder what everyone thinks about the U.K. Government revoking the visa of 19 year old law student Dana Abuqamar. She said that:

“Freedom of expression is a fundamental human right, but it seems to not apply to ethnic minorities, particularly Muslims and Palestinians like myself.”

She is challenging the decision and has accused the U.K. of hypocrisy. These are her comments, which she said have been taken out of context:

https://x.com/australianwoma1/status/1791064513321795956

I always see written on Mumsnet that “freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequence.”

Do you think the Government’s decision is the correct one?

x.com

https://x.com/australianwoma1/status/1791064513321795956

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Myb · 19/05/2024 09:55

onegrumpyoldwoman · 19/05/2024 06:53

For work.

Some ME countries prefer to 'import' Western workers with skills they don't have themselves.

Regarding your point, my issue wasn't with you. Another poster made a comment about why Muslims or Middle Easterns are in this country, and I countered it by saying that Brits are living in their countries too, regardless of the reasoning....fact is they are there. That poster has since disappeared lol

Myb · 19/05/2024 09:53

onegrumpyoldwoman · 19/05/2024 07:05

@Myb from UK Government website -

The make-up of people on small boats has been changing. From January 2018 to June 2022, Iranian (28%) and Iraqi (20%) nationals represented nearly half of all small boat arrivals. In the first six months of 2022, over half (51%) of small boat arrivals were from three nationalities – Albanian (18%), Afghan (18%) and Iranian (15%).
However, since May 2022, there has been a significant increase in the number of Albanians crossing the channel on small boats. From May to September 2022 Albanian nationals alone comprised 42% of small boat crossings, with 11,102 Albanians arriving by small boat in those five months. In contrast, over the whole of 2021 there were a total of 815 Albanian nationals who arrived by this method. In some weeks over the summer, more than half of small boat arrivals claimed to be Albanian.

Those coming from Albania – a safe and prosperous country – are travelling through multiple countries to make the journey to the UK. Following the passing of the Nationality and Borders Act, asylum claims may be inadmissible if someone travels through a safe third country before reaching the UK.

These are official figures lol many who get through disappear and live in black economy but what you have done is proved my point. Majority are here because Britain ruined their country. I'm sure if I search deep enough, somewhere somehow there will be a British hand in Albanian politics too lol

onegrumpyoldwoman · 19/05/2024 07:05

@Myb from UK Government website -

The make-up of people on small boats has been changing. From January 2018 to June 2022, Iranian (28%) and Iraqi (20%) nationals represented nearly half of all small boat arrivals. In the first six months of 2022, over half (51%) of small boat arrivals were from three nationalities – Albanian (18%), Afghan (18%) and Iranian (15%).
However, since May 2022, there has been a significant increase in the number of Albanians crossing the channel on small boats. From May to September 2022 Albanian nationals alone comprised 42% of small boat crossings, with 11,102 Albanians arriving by small boat in those five months. In contrast, over the whole of 2021 there were a total of 815 Albanian nationals who arrived by this method. In some weeks over the summer, more than half of small boat arrivals claimed to be Albanian.

Those coming from Albania – a safe and prosperous country – are travelling through multiple countries to make the journey to the UK. Following the passing of the Nationality and Borders Act, asylum claims may be inadmissible if someone travels through a safe third country before reaching the UK.

Tukmgru · 19/05/2024 07:02

You can’t be pro Palestinian and pro Hamas. You can’t be pro Israel and pro Netanyahu. The leadership both want to perpetuate a forever war to keep power and do not care one bit about the civilians dying. They both claim to do it because their sky fairy is better than the other one’s sky fairy, but really because it’s easier to whip up religious fervour than deal with real problems.

onegrumpyoldwoman · 19/05/2024 06:57

Myb · 18/05/2024 23:20

Please check up on your facts before embarrassing yourself publicly...
The most common nationalities crossing over are Afghans, Syria, Iraq, Libyans etc and all of these countries have one thing in common - they have all been blessed with "freedom" courtesy of UK, UK etc and guess what? They're now making the most of that freedom...by travelling around. Why are you complaining?

You are mistaken - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53699511?embed=true

Migrants in a dinghy sail in the Channel toward the south coast of England

How many people cross the Channel in small boats and how many claim asylum in the UK?

Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has said that "stopping the boats" coming to the UK is a key priority.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53699511?embed=true

onegrumpyoldwoman · 19/05/2024 06:53

Myb · 18/05/2024 23:14

But that wasn't the point though...why are they going there in the first place?

For work.

Some ME countries prefer to 'import' Western workers with skills they don't have themselves.

Myb · 18/05/2024 23:20

onegrumpyoldwoman · 18/05/2024 22:18

So you are saying that we ( UK ) wrecked Iran, Turkey, Albania, Eritrea, Vietnam and Egypt ?

(Most popular nationalities crossing the channel in small boats)

Please enlighten me as to when this happened?

I don't think I even know properly where Eritrea is, never mind when we had troops there. 🤔

Please check up on your facts before embarrassing yourself publicly...
The most common nationalities crossing over are Afghans, Syria, Iraq, Libyans etc and all of these countries have one thing in common - they have all been blessed with "freedom" courtesy of UK, UK etc and guess what? They're now making the most of that freedom...by travelling around. Why are you complaining?

Myb · 18/05/2024 23:14

onegrumpyoldwoman · 18/05/2024 21:40

I think you'll find that most ME countries only allow non-Islamics to live there on short-term contracts to do various skilled jobs. usually two years.

But that wasn't the point though...why are they going there in the first place?

onegrumpyoldwoman · 18/05/2024 22:18

Myb · 18/05/2024 21:37

Oh that's because you ruined their countries...only fair they turn up

So you are saying that we ( UK ) wrecked Iran, Turkey, Albania, Eritrea, Vietnam and Egypt ?

(Most popular nationalities crossing the channel in small boats)

Please enlighten me as to when this happened?

I don't think I even know properly where Eritrea is, never mind when we had troops there. 🤔

onegrumpyoldwoman · 18/05/2024 21:40

Myb · 18/05/2024 21:37

Plenty of Brits living in Middle East...under dictatorship...what's your point?

I think you'll find that most ME countries only allow non-Islamics to live there on short-term contracts to do various skilled jobs. usually two years.

peanutbuttertoasty · 18/05/2024 21:39

Byeee! Don’t let the door hit you on the way out!
the government is being unreasonable though for only picking on young women they are unafraid of, when in reality there are thousands of men they should be deporting but don’t dare.

Myb · 18/05/2024 21:37

onegrumpyoldwoman · 18/05/2024 21:25

@keenforhelp Plenty of people seem to prefer it here than Islamic republics or states.

And the 100's of people coming across the channel weekly proves it !

Oh that's because you ruined their countries...only fair they turn up

Myb · 18/05/2024 21:37

keenforhelp · 18/05/2024 17:25

Plenty of people seem to prefer it here than Islamic republics or states.

Wonder why that is?

Plenty of Brits living in Middle East...under dictatorship...what's your point?

onegrumpyoldwoman · 18/05/2024 21:25

@keenforhelp Plenty of people seem to prefer it here than Islamic republics or states.

And the 100's of people coming across the channel weekly proves it !

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Plenty of people seem to prefer it here than Islamic republics or states.

Wonder why that is?

keenforhelp · 18/05/2024 17:24

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@myb are you for real?

A simple search reveals the following. I would say it does not get worse than Islamist terrorism. Scary stuff.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks

According to Fondapol, a French think tank, between 1979 and May 2021, at least 48,035 Islamist terrorist attacks took place worldwide, causing the deaths of at least 210,138 people. During this period, each Islamist attack resulted in the death of about 4.4 persons on average. The most common type of weapon used are explosives (43.9%). The main target of these attacks is the military (31.7%), followed by civilians (25.0%) and police forces (18.3%). Afghanistan was the country most affected by Islamist terrorism, followed by Iraq and Somalia. With at least 82 Islamist attacks and 332 deaths, France remains the country most affected by Islamist terrorism within the European Union. The majority of Islamist attacks (89.5%) were in Muslim countries and the victims were mainly Muslims, in the same proportions.[1]

and info here:
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/target/etc/modern.html

The Evolution Of Islamic Terrorism - An Overview | Target America | FRONTLINE | PBS

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/target/etc/modern.html

Marjoriefrobisher · 18/05/2024 16:37

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Best clear off then. This website is full of us awful British types. And you’re providing us with far more amusement than we’re entitled to, scum that we are.

Myb · 18/05/2024 16:35

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Marjoriefrobisher · 18/05/2024 16:34

SharonEllis · 18/05/2024 16:29

But absolutely on point!

She’ll get me deleted now. Just watch.
so happy to dish out vileness to others, so sensitive when it comes to themselves, this sort

noblegiraffe · 18/05/2024 16:30

Normal people tend to think that all terrorism is bad.

SharonEllis · 18/05/2024 16:29

Marjoriefrobisher · 18/05/2024 16:28

Sorry, I was more succinct (and ruder)

But absolutely on point!

Marjoriefrobisher · 18/05/2024 16:28

SharonEllis · 18/05/2024 16:27

I'm not even going to reply to this silliness but every post you write makes you less credible than the last.

Sorry, I was more succinct (and ruder)

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I'm not even going to reply to this silliness but every post you write makes you less credible than the last.

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