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Gary Lineker - foot in mouth again

390 replies

onegrumpyoldwoman · 16/05/2024 07:39

I wish this guy would stick to football or selling crisps

Most recently, he gave an interview to Medhi Hassan (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/05/12/lineker-appears-to-call-oct-7-attacks-the-hamas-thing/ ) where he appeared to minimise the October 7th Hamas attacks as “the Hamas thing”, whilst falsely stating of the war in Gaza “I can’t think of anything that I’ve seen worse in my lifetime”. This statement is absurd hyperbole given that Mr Lineker was born in 1960 and has hence lived through major wars such as Vietnam, Iraq, Iran-Iraq, the Soviet and Western interventions in Afghanistan, and the Syrian Civil War, all of which have cost hundreds of thousands, in some cases millions, of lives.

I do not believe that it is compatible with Mr Lineker’s role as a presenter on Match of the Day, and hence an employee of our national public broadcaster, which is supposed to be politically impartial, for him to take such outspoken stances.

Watch: Gary Lineker appears to call Oct 7 attacks ‘the Hamas thing’

Critics claim ‘tone-deaf’ presenter is minimising worst anti-Semitic atrocity since the Holocaust

https://webelieveinisrael.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=4f205ffabc02c1048c024eebe&id=c59e28cde9&e=da30c7163e

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EasternStandard · 18/05/2024 10:52

Teddleshon · 18/05/2024 10:35

@Underthinker we don’t really have to speculate on that though do we? Hamas have explicitly stated their aim is to repeat October 7 again and again until the s
State of Israel no longer exists.

I’m genuinely amazed that people think Gary Lineker’s comments on this could help the situation in any way.

I think it’s more about GL then helping

He’s decided he needs to speak on various things. What the public think in return will be mixed.

MrsSkylerWhite · 18/05/2024 10:50

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Such gravitas. Such moral seriousness. How is the man not our prime minister????😂”

Because we’ve had 3 highly moral, serious PMs, one after the other.
Not.

CurlewKate · 18/05/2024 10:50

@Teddleshon "I’m genuinely amazed that people think Gary Lineker’s comments on this could help the situation in any way."

Pretty sure the discussion is about whether it was OK for him to say it rather than whether it would help the situation. Personally I think the more people talk about the situation the better.

Dulra · 18/05/2024 10:46

onegrumpyoldwoman · 18/05/2024 10:31

It wasn't a joke about kids being killed.

What are you talking about?

Read my post. I specifically said
to make jokes about a post talking about kids being killed
Which it was

AhNowTed · 18/05/2024 10:42

Teddleshon · 18/05/2024 10:35

@Underthinker we don’t really have to speculate on that though do we? Hamas have explicitly stated their aim is to repeat October 7 again and again until the s
State of Israel no longer exists.

I’m genuinely amazed that people think Gary Lineker’s comments on this could help the situation in any way.

Meanwhile Israeli government ministers call for the complete displacement of Gazans, the building of Jewish settlements in Gaza, and watch silently while Palestinian homes in the West Bank are destroyed and their land stolen.

Teddleshon · 18/05/2024 10:35

@Underthinker we don’t really have to speculate on that though do we? Hamas have explicitly stated their aim is to repeat October 7 again and again until the s
State of Israel no longer exists.

I’m genuinely amazed that people think Gary Lineker’s comments on this could help the situation in any way.

onegrumpyoldwoman · 18/05/2024 10:32

AhNowTed · 18/05/2024 10:18

Laughing at the slaughter of children just about sums up this ridiculous thread.

Where did that occur?

You lost me,

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onegrumpyoldwoman · 18/05/2024 10:31

Dulra · 18/05/2024 10:17

I think it's a bit tone deaf to make jokes about a post talking about kids being killed, each to their own I guess 🙄

It wasn't a joke about kids being killed.

What are you talking about?

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CurlewKate · 18/05/2024 10:27

And, tedious though it is to have to keep repeating it, I am neither anti semitic nor anti Israel. Like many Jewish people and many Israelis I am anti the actions of the IDF, anti Netanyahu and anti the Israeli government propaganda machine.

ssd · 18/05/2024 10:25

onegrumpyoldwoman · 18/05/2024 10:13

😂😂

Your smiley faces says everything

Good for Gary Lineker. We need more people speaking out.

CurlewKate · 18/05/2024 10:23

@Underthinker

  1. If Hamas could have killed 30000 civilians on October 7th, do you think they would have? Yes-because they are unspeakable bastards.
  2. If Israel could eliminate Hamas as a fighting force without killing a single civilian do you think they wouldn't? I don't know. I hope so.
quantumbutterfly · 18/05/2024 10:21

Feel free to jump on the hamster wheel of performative outrage, it's sustainable energy.

AhNowTed · 18/05/2024 10:18

Laughing at the slaughter of children just about sums up this ridiculous thread.

Dulra · 18/05/2024 10:17

onegrumpyoldwoman · 18/05/2024 10:13

😂😂

I think it's a bit tone deaf to make jokes about a post talking about kids being killed, each to their own I guess 🙄

onegrumpyoldwoman · 18/05/2024 10:13

quantumbutterfly · 18/05/2024 10:12

Was it a particularly big explosion?

😂😂

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quantumbutterfly · 18/05/2024 10:12

AhNowTed · 18/05/2024 10:06

That folks can watch an apartheid state annihilate thousands of innocent children before our eyes, and quibble about a football presenter’s employment contract, blows my fucking mind.

Was it a particularly big explosion?

Underthinker · 18/05/2024 10:08

Dulra · 18/05/2024 09:49

more at anti-Israel posters

I'm not aware of any anti-Israel posters. Just because people disagree with Netanyahu and the IDFs activities in Gaza does not mean they are anti Israel, we need to be careful with the language we use.

Yes wasn't sure how to phrase that. I was more curious about the answers from those who are fully against Israel's military actions in Gaza.

AhNowTed · 18/05/2024 10:06

That folks can watch an apartheid state annihilate thousands of innocent children before our eyes, and quibble about a football presenter’s employment contract, blows my fucking mind.

Dulra · 18/05/2024 09:49

Underthinker · 18/05/2024 09:02

Two hypothetical questions, probably directed more at anti-Israel posters than others, but interested what people think..

  1. If Hamas could have killed 30000 civilians on October 7th, do you think they would have?

  2. If Israel could eliminate Hamas as a fighting force without killing a single civilian do you think they wouldn't?

more at anti-Israel posters

I'm not aware of any anti-Israel posters. Just because people disagree with Netanyahu and the IDFs activities in Gaza does not mean they are anti Israel, we need to be careful with the language we use.

EasternStandard · 18/05/2024 09:48

BlastedPimples · 18/05/2024 09:42

"

  1. If Hamas could have killed 30000 civilians on October 7th, do you think they would have?"

Do you not know what is in the Hamas charter??

They are intent on killing all Jews. Their frenzied killing on 7th October was gleeful and triumphant.

Yes the answer to that one is everyone

quantumbutterfly · 18/05/2024 09:42

onegrumpyoldwoman · 18/05/2024 09:10

Answers -

1.Yes

2.We need to be careful with this question as it seems to be posed as a double negative.
I think that if the IDF could have removed Hamas (fighters and organisers ) by capturing and imprisoning them all without any civilian casualties, then they would have done so.

.

Agree

BlastedPimples · 18/05/2024 09:42

"

  1. If Hamas could have killed 30000 civilians on October 7th, do you think they would have?"

Do you not know what is in the Hamas charter??

They are intent on killing all Jews. Their frenzied killing on 7th October was gleeful and triumphant.

BlastedPimples · 18/05/2024 09:40

True. Hamas uses civilians as shields after all. Including children. And they don't wear uniforms so hard to identify them.

Utter bastards.

onegrumpyoldwoman · 18/05/2024 09:10

Answers -

1.Yes

2.We need to be careful with this question as it seems to be posed as a double negative.
I think that if the IDF could have removed Hamas (fighters and organisers ) by capturing and imprisoning them all without any civilian casualties, then they would have done so.

.

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Underthinker · 18/05/2024 09:02

Two hypothetical questions, probably directed more at anti-Israel posters than others, but interested what people think..

  1. If Hamas could have killed 30000 civilians on October 7th, do you think they would have?

  2. If Israel could eliminate Hamas as a fighting force without killing a single civilian do you think they wouldn't?