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Gary Lineker - foot in mouth again

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onegrumpyoldwoman · 16/05/2024 07:39

I wish this guy would stick to football or selling crisps

Most recently, he gave an interview to Medhi Hassan (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/05/12/lineker-appears-to-call-oct-7-attacks-the-hamas-thing/ ) where he appeared to minimise the October 7th Hamas attacks as “the Hamas thing”, whilst falsely stating of the war in Gaza “I can’t think of anything that I’ve seen worse in my lifetime”. This statement is absurd hyperbole given that Mr Lineker was born in 1960 and has hence lived through major wars such as Vietnam, Iraq, Iran-Iraq, the Soviet and Western interventions in Afghanistan, and the Syrian Civil War, all of which have cost hundreds of thousands, in some cases millions, of lives.

I do not believe that it is compatible with Mr Lineker’s role as a presenter on Match of the Day, and hence an employee of our national public broadcaster, which is supposed to be politically impartial, for him to take such outspoken stances.

Watch: Gary Lineker appears to call Oct 7 attacks ‘the Hamas thing’

Critics claim ‘tone-deaf’ presenter is minimising worst anti-Semitic atrocity since the Holocaust

https://webelieveinisrael.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=4f205ffabc02c1048c024eebe&id=c59e28cde9&e=da30c7163e

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Teddleshon · 16/05/2024 09:09

There has been no ruling on genocide, plausible or otherwise.

onegrumpyoldwoman · 16/05/2024 09:08

murgugug · 16/05/2024 09:07

Even so, it hasn't been ruled as a "genocide".

The jury's still out on that one.

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Lenoftheglen · 16/05/2024 09:04

“I can’t think of anything that I’ve seen worse in my lifetime”.

I completely agree with him. Telling him to stick to football, calling him a half wit and idiot doesn't change what he and a great many of us have seen.

Staggering such a post has been made. Bad old Gary Lineker eh 🙄

Dulra · 16/05/2024 09:02

Mellowdramadrama · 16/05/2024 08:51

@Hélène79 Yes, I think this is the case to an extent although the Syrian civil war has had significant coverage in the mainstream news and across social media. Less people have given a toss though for some reason

I do agree to an extent with this. Asad is a brutal dictator and probably up there with the worst people of our time. However, Syria or Asad is not our ally and neither are we supplying him weapons so I don't think the two are quite comparable.

@Hélène79
I completely disagree that people did not give a toss about Syrians, people very much did "give a toss" in my country anyway, and we have taken in thousands of Syrian refugees as programme refugees and send tens of thousands in Humanitarian aid. No democratic nation supported Assad or funded his campaign against his people so there was not the same amount of protests but I guarantee if UK or US were sending arms to Assad there would have been uproar.
I always find it pretty insulting when people claim others didn't care about something what you are really saying is you didn't so you assume no one else did too.

GatoGato · 16/05/2024 09:02

People seem to think (I don't mean you OP 😊) that because someone is famous, it means their opinions on areas completely outside their chosen field are useful, or meaningful.

Would I seek Lineker's opinion on football, crisps or squeezing a sponsorship deal for all it's worth? Absolutely.

Would I seek his opinion on politics or any other issue? Absolutely not, the man's an idiot. A woke, virtue signalling idiot.

Lemoonada · 16/05/2024 08:59

Yeah I agree with him. This is the most horrific abuse of power and loss of infrastructure and life in a short space of time that we have seen in recent history. It's the ongoing and relentless nature of it. The proven lies that have been used to justify a genocide. I agree with him.

onegrumpyoldwoman · 16/05/2024 08:55

Mellowdramadrama · 16/05/2024 08:51

@Hélène79 Yes, I think this is the case to an extent although the Syrian civil war has had significant coverage in the mainstream news and across social media. Less people have given a toss though for some reason

I do agree to an extent with this. Asad is a brutal dictator and probably up there with the worst people of our time. However, Syria or Asad is not our ally and neither are we supplying him weapons so I don't think the two are quite comparable.

That's a good point but don't forget about the horror of the war in Yemen, where we are supply arms to the Saudis.

I don't see any protesters jumping up and down by the railings of this building

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&mediaurl=http%3a%2f%2fmicrosoft.localdataimages.com%2f800_WM%2f2497%2f24970457.jpg&expw=800&exph=600&cbid=OLC.A3ehoD7kh9aueA480x360&cbn=local&idpp=local&thid=OLC.A3ehoD7kh9aueA480x360&ypid=YN1109x226766756&useBFPR=0&eeptype=PhotoGroups&dataGroup=local:datagroup.photos&PhotoGroupName=AllPhotos&PageTag=AllPhotos&selectedIndex=0&id=OLC.A3ehoD7kh9aueA480x360&q=saudi%20embassy%20london&pseg=Local&noidpclose=0&FORM=LOCIMG&ajaxhist=0&ajaxserp=0

(btw that was a picture of the Saudi Embassy )

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Teddleshon · 16/05/2024 08:55

So do you all want Hamas to win?

Eggmoobean · 16/05/2024 08:53

The bbc should sack this man. It is not his job role to spout out about politics and world affairs.

”the Hamas thing” is insulting. There was slaughter (is slaughter) going on with both hamas and Israel. No one should play down either. It’s disrespectful to the victims.

TomeTome · 16/05/2024 08:52

If all the people paid by me were able to voice their opinions I would imagine there would be vanishing little support at all for the slaughter of the Palestinians. He’s a grown man with a mainstream opinion who isn’t afraid to speak. I admire him for it and agree that watching the carnage unfolding in Palestine has been heart wrenching. Well said that man.

Mellowdramadrama · 16/05/2024 08:51

@Hélène79 Yes, I think this is the case to an extent although the Syrian civil war has had significant coverage in the mainstream news and across social media. Less people have given a toss though for some reason

I do agree to an extent with this. Asad is a brutal dictator and probably up there with the worst people of our time. However, Syria or Asad is not our ally and neither are we supplying him weapons so I don't think the two are quite comparable.

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SouthernMamma · 16/05/2024 08:49

Just like some right wingers are thrilled by an Islamic terror attack in order to justify their views, there are a sizeable number on the Left who rejoice in Israeli offensives so they can let loose on their barely contained antisemitism. The position of the Palestinian people is awful - the question is why did Hamas choose to release such terror on their people? Is it because their puppet masters, Iran, on Putin's instructions, effectively diverted attention and, more importantly, resources away from Ukraine? I understand both Ukraine and Israel are desperate for the batteries needed for the air defence system they both use. We all know Putin cares little for life and those little Palestinian children - and the Israelis who suffered - have paid a terrible price.

Itisalovelyday · 16/05/2024 08:48

JimBobsWife · 16/05/2024 08:08

The Yemeni civil war is and has been horrific in humanitarian terms but seems to get very little real attention.

The wars in Syria and Sudan are the same.

I don't agree with Israel's actions at all but they do seem to come under a different microscope.

This!

onegrumpyoldwoman · 16/05/2024 08:46

Mellowdramadrama · 16/05/2024 08:21

Well the actions of the Israeli government have been horrendous, certainly not the behaviour expected from an ally to say the least. And that's putting it quite mildly so why are you surprised that people are shocked or upset by it OP?

You are missing the point of the post.

Gary Lineker is paid by me (and every other licence payer) to be a football pundit not a political commentator.

He appears to minimise the Oct 7th attacks, which is disgraceful.

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Hélène79 · 16/05/2024 08:45

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Define Zionist.

Mellowdramadrama · 16/05/2024 08:43

Or if it bothers you so much you could just not listen to what he has to say? As some of the rest of us quite appreciate him speaking out, as evidently can be noted on this thread itself.

Hélène79 · 16/05/2024 08:42

JimBobsWife · 16/05/2024 08:05

I think people think it's the worst they've seen because of the coverage and attention it's got. Plus it's very fresh in people's minds.

I don't really see how you can quantify war and decide which is the worst but I'm sure there have been plenty of less publicised conflicts since 1960 which are equally horrific.

Yes, I think this is the case to an extent although the Syrian civil war has had significant coverage in the mainstream news and across social media. Less people have given a toss though for some reason.

In 1994 Gary Lineker was 33. The Rwanda genocide saw 800,000 massacred in a 100-day period.

He enjoys the flattery of the Left but is just as selective in the atrocities he chooses to highlight (or omit more like).

onegrumpyoldwoman · 16/05/2024 08:40

elevens24 · 16/05/2024 08:32

I agree with him and welcome public figures speaking up about the genocide happening in Gaza.

Public figure should keep within the bounds of their contracts, especially when taxpayers like me pay their wages.

Time to defund the BBC methinks...

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elevens24 · 16/05/2024 08:32

I agree with him and welcome public figures speaking up about the genocide happening in Gaza.

Mellowdramadrama · 16/05/2024 08:27

Grandmasswagbag · 16/05/2024 08:11

The daily death rate in Gaza is widely considered to be the highest of any recent major conflict. I believe around half the dead are children. Then there is the displacement of potentially more than 1 mil people into a tiny area with famine, disease, sparse medical care. I think it’s definitely a contender OP.

Aye I agree. And then asking women and children to go to places where the Israeli government told them were safe and then proceeding to strike those places to maim and kill them and firing and killing aid workers, absolutely shocking behaviour.
I'm surprised there's not more outrage for the poor British aid worker who was terribly killed for only trying to help.

Mellowdramadrama · 16/05/2024 08:21

Well the actions of the Israeli government have been horrendous, certainly not the behaviour expected from an ally to say the least. And that's putting it quite mildly so why are you surprised that people are shocked or upset by it OP?

youngones1 · 16/05/2024 08:13

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