Gary Lineker - foot in mouth again

I think he should stick to the terms of his contract.

He’s actually right. In terms of the extent of destruction in the timeframe it is worse than all of those conflicts and in terms of the concentration of civilian casualties it’s also worse. Iran-Iraq war was largely fought on the border of the countries and mainly involved soldiers, it was a war of attrition fought in trenches much like WWI. You might be right about Vietnam, 2.2 million dead civilians averages out to about 300 per day. Right now, at the rate he’s going, Netanyahu is killing on average about 160 Palestinians every day.

but these are all very different conflicts — war in Afghanistan went on for 20 years and killed 29,000 civilians (but a lot of that was Americans hopelessly trying fight a militia in the mountains). Again, Netanyahu has already topped that (I’m sure he’s so proud). But I think you’re missing Lineker’s point which is he hasn’t seen anything like this in his lifetime and he’s correct. What could he possibly remember as a child in the 1960s? But more importantly, the way we’ve been exposed to this war is unlike anything else — it’s been pretty much live-streamed to our personal devices. So when Israel sends a 2,000 pound US made bomb on a neighbourhood in Khan Younis, because it thinks 1/2 Hamas members live there, we will see the crushed and torn bodies of little babies or (for instance) the four year old girl who’s torso was ripped almost in half and left hanging from a broken concrete wall, within hours if not minutes of it happening. The images have been absolutely, without exception, the most horrifying because of their shear number and volume. And it’s interesting because Oct 7 was a horrifying, shocking 6 hours of hell but Israel has been seeking vengeance for it so far with 220 days of utter destruction, death and deliberate starvation. Israel’s response has been wildly disproportionate. There’s no justification for it. You can’t say that 34,000 Palestinians deserve to be killed or needed to be killed for the 1,200 people (chunk of them IDF btw) killed by Hamas and PIJ and the 230 hostages. That’s just a distinctly amoral form of racism, surely? I honestly haven’t lived through anything like this. Because as well as the bombs, it’s the fact that Israeli right wing nut jobs are destroying shipments of aid at border crossings and the aid deliveries are being deliberately stalled. Oh and the water! Not sure if many people know this but Gazans are not allowed to collect their own rain water and also chocolate imports have always been banned by Israel. And in general the aerial bombardment is also officially worse than Dresden. So yeah it is absolutely f8cking awful and he’s absolutely right.

Is that a question or a statement?

Public figure should keep within the bounds of their contracts, especially when taxpayers like me pay their wages.

Time to defund the BBC methinks...

Oh boy, I wish I could still watch TV without having to pay the BBC for a licence, but I can't without having some enforcement officer knocking at my door.

So as I licence payer I think I have the right to say how my money is spent.

He’s actually right. In terms of the extent of destruction in the timeframe it is worse than all of those conflicts and in terms of the concentration of civilian casualties it’s also worse. Iran-Iraq war was largely fought on the border of the countries and mainly involved soldiers, it was a war of attrition fought in trenches much like WWI. You might be right about Vietnam, 2.2 million dead civilians averages out to about 300 per day. Right now, at the rate he’s going, Netanyahu is killing on average about 160 Palestinians every day.

but these are all very different conflicts — war in Afghanistan went on for 20 years and killed 29,000 civilians (but a lot of that was Americans hopelessly trying fight a militia in the mountains). Again, Netanyahu has already topped that (I’m sure he’s so proud). But I think you’re missing Lineker’s point which is he hasn’t seen anything like this in his lifetime and he’s correct. What could he possibly remember as a child in the 1960s? But more importantly, the way we’ve been exposed to this war is unlike anything else — it’s been pretty much live-streamed to our personal devices. So when Israel sends a 2,000 pound US made bomb on a neighbourhood in Khan Younis, because it thinks 1/2 Hamas members live there, we will see the crushed and torn bodies of little babies or (for instance) the four year old girl who’s torso was ripped almost in half and left hanging from a broken concrete wall, within hours if not minutes of it happening. The images have been absolutely, without exception, the most horrifying because of their shear number and volume. And it’s interesting because Oct 7 was a horrifying, shocking 6 hours of hell but Israel has been seeking vengeance for it so far with 220 days of utter destruction, death and deliberate starvation. Israel’s response has been wildly disproportionate. There’s no justification for it. You can’t say that 34,000 Palestinians deserve to be killed or needed to be killed for the 1,200 people (chunk of them IDF btw) killed by Hamas and PIJ and the 230 hostages. That’s just a distinctly amoral form of racism, surely? I honestly haven’t lived through anything like this. Because as well as the bombs, it’s the fact that Israeli right wing nut jobs are destroying shipments of aid at border crossings and the aid deliveries are being deliberately stalled. Oh and the water! Not sure if many people know this but Gazans are not allowed to collect their own rain water and also chocolate imports have always been banned by Israel. And in general the aerial bombardment is also officially worse than Dresden. So yeah it is absolutely f8cking awful and he’s absolutely right.

There has been no ruling on genocide, plausible or otherwise.

You are missing the point of the post.

Gary Lineker is paid by me (and every other licence payer) to be a football pundit not a political commentator.

He appears to minimise the Oct 7th attacks, which is disgraceful.

It's starting to look more like a smear campaign by yourself of the man, because you don't agree with his political views on the current conflict 🤔
What has this or what you replied to, have anything to do with your original OP?