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Gary Lineker - foot in mouth again

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onegrumpyoldwoman · 16/05/2024 07:39

I wish this guy would stick to football or selling crisps

Most recently, he gave an interview to Medhi Hassan (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/05/12/lineker-appears-to-call-oct-7-attacks-the-hamas-thing/ ) where he appeared to minimise the October 7th Hamas attacks as “the Hamas thing”, whilst falsely stating of the war in Gaza “I can’t think of anything that I’ve seen worse in my lifetime”. This statement is absurd hyperbole given that Mr Lineker was born in 1960 and has hence lived through major wars such as Vietnam, Iraq, Iran-Iraq, the Soviet and Western interventions in Afghanistan, and the Syrian Civil War, all of which have cost hundreds of thousands, in some cases millions, of lives.

I do not believe that it is compatible with Mr Lineker’s role as a presenter on Match of the Day, and hence an employee of our national public broadcaster, which is supposed to be politically impartial, for him to take such outspoken stances.

Watch: Gary Lineker appears to call Oct 7 attacks ‘the Hamas thing’

Critics claim ‘tone-deaf’ presenter is minimising worst anti-Semitic atrocity since the Holocaust

https://webelieveinisrael.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=4f205ffabc02c1048c024eebe&id=c59e28cde9&e=da30c7163e

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onegrumpyoldwoman · 16/05/2024 12:14

Auvergne63 · 16/05/2024 11:58

I should have said you used the link to character assassinate him or I just dreamt it?

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For the last time, I didn't post that link.

Address your concerns to the person that did.

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IbisDancer · 16/05/2024 12:07

In this world, if you don’t put your money where your mouth is, no one will listen.

IbisDancer · 16/05/2024 12:06

onegrumpyoldwoman · 16/05/2024 11:42

Thanks for the advice - I might just do that, 🙂

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It’s not a bad idea, phone BBC and state why you are unhappy and then take a stand and stop giving them your money. I have.

Auvergne63 · 16/05/2024 11:58

onegrumpyoldwoman · 16/05/2024 11:49

Agreed with it?

It happened - it's fact.

I have no idea what you mean.

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I should have said you used the link to character assassinate him or I just dreamt it?

Dulra · 16/05/2024 11:56

onegrumpyoldwoman · 16/05/2024 11:26

I didn't post that clip.

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I know I quoted the poster that did and was responding to them

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onegrumpyoldwoman · 16/05/2024 11:49

Auvergne63 · 16/05/2024 11:47

But you agreed with it. Have the courage of your convictions, please.

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Agreed with it?

It happened - it's fact.

I have no idea what you mean.

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Auvergne63 · 16/05/2024 11:47

onegrumpyoldwoman · 16/05/2024 11:36

@Auvergne63 It looks to me like you or whoever posted the link

I've already said 3 times I didn't post the link, so go and thrown brickbats at someone else.

But you agreed with it. Have the courage of your convictions, please.

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onegrumpyoldwoman · 16/05/2024 11:46

MissyB1 · 16/05/2024 11:46

Do let us know how hard they laughed…

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Watch this space.......🙂

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MissyB1 · 16/05/2024 11:46

onegrumpyoldwoman · 16/05/2024 11:42

Thanks for the advice - I might just do that, 🙂

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Do let us know how hard they laughed…

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onegrumpyoldwoman · 16/05/2024 11:42

MissyB1 · 16/05/2024 11:41

Gagged how? He’s not broken his contract by the looks of it. You want his contract changed?? Oh well phone his boss and see how you get on 😂

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Thanks for the advice - I might just do that, 🙂

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MissyB1 · 16/05/2024 11:41

onegrumpyoldwoman · 16/05/2024 11:11

I never said he should be sacked, I said he should be gagged.

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Gagged how? He’s not broken his contract by the looks of it. You want his contract changed?? Oh well phone his boss and see how you get on 😂

Hoppinggreen · 16/05/2024 11:41

I am not sure how Gary Linekers upset stomach means that what Israel is doing in Gaza any more palatable but here we are

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onegrumpyoldwoman · 16/05/2024 11:36

@Auvergne63 It looks to me like you or whoever posted the link

I've already said 3 times I didn't post the link, so go and thrown brickbats at someone else.

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Mellowdramadrama · 16/05/2024 11:33

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Auvergne63 · 16/05/2024 11:31

onegrumpyoldwoman · 16/05/2024 11:06

@Auvergne63 Why post an article on him defecating on the pitch? It is irrelevant.

I disagree.

To behave like that shows complete disrespect to other footballers (including his own team-mates) who have to play on the same pitch.

He admits he was unwell with diarrhoea the night before but still went ahead and played because he wanted to. No respect for others it seems.

Just gross.

https://talksport.com/football/699510/gary-lineker-soiling-himself-england-1990-world-cup/

It looks to me like you or whoever posted the link try to find anything to discredit the man because you don't agree with his opinions. It is quite amusing.
Would you also condemn Paula Radcliffe for doing the same, in front of the public ( including children), which she called "an embarrassing necessity"?

Scirocco · 16/05/2024 11:31

So when someone says something people don't like, it's apparently fine to bring up a time they were embarrassingly unwell in public over 30 years ago...

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onegrumpyoldwoman · 16/05/2024 11:26

Dulra · 16/05/2024 11:25

Not sure what point you are trying to make posting this. Not unusual for sports stars to get caught out in very visible situations. Posting this says more about you tbh

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I didn't post that clip.

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onegrumpyoldwoman · 16/05/2024 11:25

murgugug · 16/05/2024 11:19

I really don't like the tone of your thread OP. Bringing up an unfortunate incident about him having diarrhea for god's sake.

Nasty.

I didn't bring it up.

Don't engage if you find it distasteful.

And, yes, I agree that diarrhea is "nasty" and people who have it should stay at home.

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Dulra · 16/05/2024 11:25

User1979289 · 16/05/2024 09:32

When I think of this anti-semitic misogynist I always remember the time he shat himself and wiped his arse on the pitch. Sum's him up in so many ways.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xfvyi5

Not sure what point you are trying to make posting this. Not unusual for sports stars to get caught out in very visible situations. Posting this says more about you tbh

ohfook · 16/05/2024 11:23

Granted I'm younger than Linekar but I can't remember seeing anything this bad in my lifetime in terms of the sheer number of children being killed. However the news is much more prevalent now than it was when I was younger.

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onegrumpyoldwoman · 16/05/2024 11:23

Mellowdramadrama · 16/05/2024 11:14

Right so you are posting articles about him unrelated to your OP but getting upset when being called out on it. It clearly is a smear campaign because you disagree with his views.
I doubt you would be doing the same if he was fiercely pro-Israel.

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^ That is your opinion, which you are free to have.

If anyone who behaved in such a gross manner was fiercely pro-Israel, I would be embarrassed for Israel and I would certainly say so.

I'm not afraid to say, that IMO, some politicians in the Israeli Parliament are right-wing nutters, but as far as I am aware none of them have taken a dump on a football pitch.

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murgugug · 16/05/2024 11:19

I really don't like the tone of your thread OP. Bringing up an unfortunate incident about him having diarrhea for god's sake.

Nasty.

IbisDancer · 16/05/2024 11:15

LordPercyPercy · 16/05/2024 11:05

The genocide was 8 months after the civil war ended with Arusha peace accords. It happened during a power vacuum after the president was assassinated. How do you not know this?

Yes because the peace accord was broken due to the president's assasination! If a peace accord is broken, then war has broken out again.
You're splitting insane hairs to somehow prove that this was different/less bad because.... an international definition? Lack of Israeli involvement?
Either way, the minimisation is pretty breathtaking.

… edited because wasn’t very nice of me,

Mellowdramadrama · 16/05/2024 11:14

onegrumpyoldwoman · 16/05/2024 11:06

@Auvergne63 Why post an article on him defecating on the pitch? It is irrelevant.

I disagree.

To behave like that shows complete disrespect to other footballers (including his own team-mates) who have to play on the same pitch.

He admits he was unwell with diarrhoea the night before but still went ahead and played because he wanted to. No respect for others it seems.

Just gross.

https://talksport.com/football/699510/gary-lineker-soiling-himself-england-1990-world-cup/

Right so you are posting articles about him unrelated to your OP but getting upset when being called out on it. It clearly is a smear campaign because you disagree with his views.
I doubt you would be doing the same if he was fiercely pro-Israel.

IbisDancer · 16/05/2024 11:14

LordPercyPercy · 16/05/2024 11:05

The genocide was 8 months after the civil war ended with Arusha peace accords. It happened during a power vacuum after the president was assassinated. How do you not know this?

Yes because the peace accord was broken due to the president's assasination! If a peace accord is broken, then war has broken out again.
You're splitting insane hairs to somehow prove that this was different/less bad because.... an international definition? Lack of Israeli involvement?
Either way, the minimisation is pretty breathtaking.

No, I’m not saying anything is less bad at all. I am saying the Rwanda genocide was not a war. It occurred after one civil war and before a second civil war, not during a civil war. Some historians view the second civil war as a restart of same civil war, but either way all historians I have read agree that the Rwandan genocide did not occur during or as part of a war, but between civil wars or during a period of peace where a longer civil war stopped. The second civil war or restart of civil war occurred after the genocide was mostly done and one goal of that civil war was to stop it.

This doesn’t make it less bad in any way.

Genocides are usually done without a war going on between the two peoples. The Holocaust wasn’t a war between Germany and Jewish insurgents/terrorists or a Jewish state, one party was the state and the other were just regular civilians.

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