Terrible but not surprised - Jewish community under threat

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Jewish students at university are feeling particularly vulnerable. I feel for them .

I’m not Jewish but I did find your posts concerning and confusing.
Are you saying that Starmer is antisemitic because he removed Jewish party members who were behaving in antisemitic ways?
Or are you saying he is not antisemitic enough because he has a wife who is Jewish and will use his money to fund Israel ?
Honestly - it all came across in a very peculiar way and I assume you spend too much time in very particular social media echo chambers so think these opinions are ok.

Honestly, if you can't say something without being offensive to Jewish people then maybe you just shouldn't talk about certain topics? Because the thing that is actually worrying is how you can say the stuff you're saying and yet see no problem with it even when the problems are pointed out to you

Yes, outrageous of me to put your words together and it making you look bad.

And then you come on this morning and start wittering about how antisemitism levels are over-inflated.

I was not baiting or goading anyone. I have opinions, and I'm as entitled to them as you are. For you then to all jump on me, and pick apart my comments to turn them into different sentences.. it's really worrying

It's not! But way to detract from the thread, by putting my words together in a specific way to make me look bad.

On a thread about the Jewish community under threat its such a tell tale when people jump onto these threads to argue with, bait and goad away at Jews. Some even turn up to every similar thread to do this. Its like a sport And if we're super lucky we get an added slice of "look at those good Jews protesting, see there cant be antisemitism".

There what is, exactly? 🤔

Anyone who is well-versed in antisemitism knows that the definition doesn't include criticism of Israel. So by you yourself saying you're fully versed in it, it means you were purposely spreading lies about the definition of antisemitism earlier rather than doing so mistakenly. Why was that?

It's what you did. Last night.

Wow. Look at what you did there. Bravo!

Gosh, it might be the idea that Keir Starmer's Jewish wife would be happy that the antisemitic dictator Keir Starmer was weaponising antisemitism to rid the party of his Jewish political opponents because (insert Jewish tropes here).

Ah there it is... yes I'm well versed... no, I'm not antisemitic... yes, I get accused often... no, that does not make me antisemitic!

How did I 'attack' her?

If you're so well-versed in it then you'll already have known you were spreading lies. And if you're being accused of antisemitism so frequently, maybe take a look at what you're saying and how you're saying it. Plenty of people seem to be able to criticise Israel without being anti-Semitic, I'm not sure why you struggle so much?

Like I said last night, totally disingenuous.

I said it was 'win win' for a woman for her husband to make money AND to support her family in another country. I didn't even mention that she was Jewish. If she wasn't Jewish I would still say that about a politicians wife.

Which I apologised for, because I didn't mean to imply that 'Jewish' was a race. I got told off for it, accepted that's how it came across and apologised that I had mis-worded

You needed to be to get your attack in on Keir Starmer's wife.

Well if it isn't, that's great! But I've been accused of being antisemitic many times for criticising the State of Israel and its actions in Palestine. To the point that I believe it must be! And yes, I'm fully versed on the definition of antisemitism.

Yes, I was explaining it in the same language that you used.

Other races?

But you are suggesting that they are overinflated.

I'm not denying the numbers will be high. I'm saying that all hate figures are high right now. It's the ugly times we live in.

Still waiting on acknowledgement that criticism of Israel isn't actually considered anti-Semitic, @HelenHen .

Do you know why the definitions of antisemitism include things that don't apply to discrimination against other races?

It's because antisemitism doesn't take the same form as other forms of racism. Other races don't have conspiracy theories about them secretly controlling the world, for example.