Terrible but not surprised - Jewish community under threat

I think you misunderstood what that poster was saying. They didn't say that the Jews who don't actively denounce Israel are fair game. They said all Jews are fair game because of the naughty Jews who refuse to actively denounce Israel. They're apparently the reason anti-semitism exists.

Interestingly, a proportion of the non-Jewish British public also support Netanyahu. Are they also not allowed opinions?

No we are not at risk because of that. We are at risk from anti semites. Do you think we have short memories? Israel didn't even exist during the holocaust, so what was the reason we were at risk then? We've been at risk throughout history. Stop telling us what we have to do to keep safe

So all Jews should denounce Israel to placate the anti-semites? The Jews who don’t actively do so are fair game for being murdered or abused?

It’s totalitarian to suggest people should avoid persecution by demonstrating that their opinions are pure. It’s literally what happened in Stalinist Russia.

SharonEllis · Today 17:03
The huge rise in antisemitism has undoubtedly gone alongside the jump in antiIsrael activity. I think it would be the world's weirdest coincidence if they were not related given the routine conflation of jews/zionists/Israelis.

Agreed, but unfortunately they are intrinsically linked.
If you ask a person their religion and they say Muslim, for the majority of people they won't associate them with a specific country, some may think of Mecca and fewer still may know where it is.
If a person said Christian, again most wouldn't think of a specific country, some might make the jump to Italy/Rome/Vatican city.
Sikhism, India
Buddhism, Nepal
Whereas Judaism/Jewish whoosh straight to Israel.
Do you think a bigot is really going to think about the nuances or are they just going to think in their terms of good guys v's bad guys?
It is shit and unfair, and Jewish people shouldn't have to apologise for the actions of the Israeli government but while the routine conflation of jews/zionists/Israelis exists assholes will continue to asshole until people are able to see the separation.

Yes, absolutely.

The fact is, a large proportion of Jews in the UK and all over the world, do support what Netanyahu and the IDF are doing now. Another signficant proportion totally denounce this, both here, all over the world and in Israel. But because of the first group, they are all at risk in so many ways, which is so wrong.

It is pretty fatuous, to say the least, to suggest that Jews would be safer if we condemned Israel more. The whole community could be out there condemning Israel and people like the guys arrested would still be at it.

It probably would make some protestors better inclined towards Jews, but it shouldn't have to. I'm against Israel's actions and have been on protests but I always make it very clear that this does not make me the 'right kind of Jew' and that's not why I'm doing it. I believe Israel should continue to exist because it does exist, whether people like that or not, and because 7 million Jews are now established there; which means I'd be written off my some protestors as an evil ethno-supremacist, colonialist Zionist. But you can't win 'em all.

It would be great if one of the posters critical of Israel would explain to zzbutton how what they are saying is anti-semitic. Maybe they'd believe it then?

Great minds. We've solved anti semitism between us!

Ha @Comedycook didn't see this before I posted. Too fucking right.

Oh cool! So if I, as a Jew, publicly condemn the government of a country I have never been to and have no interaction with, I qualify as a Good Jew and I will be safe? Will I be rewarded with a nice big Gold Star that I can wear on my clothes?

So apparently it's all fine. If you're Jewish all you have to do is condemn Israel and you'll be safe. I don't know how the anti semites will able to differentiate between Jews who have and haven't condemned Israel. Does anyone have any good ideas as to how Jewish people could identify themselves whilst out in public.

Answers on a postcard please

And this thread is not about that. It's about anti semitism.

No, I didn't say that.

I said that the usa is supporting Isreal and think they are wrong to do so because..

They are encouraging and supporting outright mass slaughter.

If that's the key difference according to you, I assume you think all Chinese people should call out the treatment of the Uyghur Muslims in china?

Oh ok. So the anti semite who is waiting to attack a Jewish person...just needs to know that that particular Jewish person is a "good jew" who has condemned Israel and they will be spared? Is that correct?

Yes do go

The usa are controlling what happens in Isreal.

The powers that are controlling us? Who the hell are they?

Of course they should! Everyone should!

We should recognise we are all one together.

The powers that are controlling us are trying to divide us.

Text book antisemitism to hold Jews in this country responsible for the actions of the Israeli government AND demandimg that they publicly condemn Israel - for anyone who is still not sure. The only people resonsible for antisemitism are antisemites. Which governments's actions are you demanding other religious minorities collectively publicly condemn?