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Terrible but not surprised - Jewish community under threat

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mids2019 · 14/05/2024 15:58

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx0331xxd7xo

It appears Jews are not safe in the UK at all.

Can we seriously look at the impact of anti semitism now?

Police at the home of one of the men arrested over an alleged terror plot

Three in court over alleged plan to attack Jewish community

Three men are accused of planning a gun attack on the Jewish community in North-West England.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx0331xxd7xo

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HelenHen · 20/05/2024 22:24

Lilacblossom70 · 20/05/2024 22:22

Yeah come on guys keep up. His wife is Jewish therefore she wants to be richer and get him to pull strings on Israel.

Honestly I'm torn between reporting this poster and letting everyone see the posts in all their offensive glory.

Omg not because she's Jewish... surely we all want to be richer? 😂 you're being ridiculous

HelenHen · 20/05/2024 22:24

Lilacblossom70 · 20/05/2024 22:20

Israel’s settler-colonial enterprise

Jeez, are you the Leeds uni student I heard on radio 4 the other day?!?!?

So you're saying that when Starmer chucked out all the antisemites, he was actually being antisemitic? Good job you're here to tell all the Jewish people who might vote Labour.

This is surely a wind-up.

BTW what does any of it have to do with the thread title? apart from stopping people talking about antisemitic attacks

That was a quote from the link.

And I brought up starmer in response to someone claiming the Labour party was trying to stamp out antisemitism.

25milesfromhome · 20/05/2024 22:23

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Oh dear.

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Yeah come on guys keep up. His wife is Jewish therefore she wants to be richer and get him to pull strings on Israel.

Honestly I'm torn between reporting this poster and letting everyone see the posts in all their offensive glory.

HelenHen · 20/05/2024 22:21

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Lilacblossom70 · 20/05/2024 22:20

Israel’s settler-colonial enterprise

Jeez, are you the Leeds uni student I heard on radio 4 the other day?!?!?

So you're saying that when Starmer chucked out all the antisemites, he was actually being antisemitic? Good job you're here to tell all the Jewish people who might vote Labour.

This is surely a wind-up.

BTW what does any of it have to do with the thread title? apart from stopping people talking about antisemitic attacks

HelenHen · 20/05/2024 22:15

Hélène79 · 20/05/2024 21:56

What, rooting out the antisemites and cranks? Good for him I say. You might want to reflect on why you have a problem with that and keeping throwing about the phrase "diluting antisemitism", not just on this thread.

It's quite obvious you don't know the first thing about antisemitism and how it manifests itself, and how it's really fucking easy to spot.

Why I have a problem with somebody manipulating democracy to further his own interests... and manipulating the Jewish people to do so?

Why are you OK with that? He has expelled more Jewish people from the Labour party than his predecessor did... under the guise of antisemitism.

This link explains it pretty well

www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2023/6/22/weaponisation-of-anti-semitism-is-bad-for-palestinians-and-jews

"There is, however, another, equally concerning and damaging consequence of the baseless accusations of anti-Semitism directed at pro-Palestinian voices: they make all charges of anti-Semitism, including very real ones, less convincing.

Indeed, accusing everyone criticising Israel’s settler-colonial enterprise of being anti-Semitic is extremely dangerous because it will eventually begin, if it hasn’t already, to cast doubt on the very existence of the very real, damaging and pervasive societal ill that is anti-Semitism"

Whan you find ways to accuse people who are generally supportive of Jewish issues to be antisemitic, you risk alienating yourself from friends. Most normal people are disgusted by antisemitism, but when the term means that you cannot criticise the Israeli government, that is not right.

Hélène79 · 20/05/2024 21:56

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What, rooting out the antisemites and cranks? Good for him I say. You might want to reflect on why you have a problem with that and keeping throwing about the phrase "diluting antisemitism", not just on this thread.

It's quite obvious you don't know the first thing about antisemitism and how it manifests itself, and how it's really fucking easy to spot.

25milesfromhome · 20/05/2024 21:55

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Why is it win win for his wife?

HelenHen · 20/05/2024 21:42

25milesfromhome · 20/05/2024 21:40

I 'might'. But I don't want to.

Well that's very grown up of you 😂

25milesfromhome · 20/05/2024 21:40

HelenHen · 20/05/2024 21:13

You might want to explain then?

I 'might'. But I don't want to.

HelenHen · 20/05/2024 21:36

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Hélène79 · 20/05/2024 21:24

HelenHen · 20/05/2024 21:04

Starmer is antisemitic. He is using the Jewish people and a very important and emotive term, to rid the party of his political opponents. Its quite blatant.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66753637.amp

Stop talking nonsense 😂Honestly, it's the most ridiculous and tedious reach.

I'm sure if Starmer was actually antisemitic his wife would be serving him papers.

HelenHen · 20/05/2024 21:13

25milesfromhome · 20/05/2024 21:10

I think you might have misunderstood who I was mocking here.

You might want to explain then?

25milesfromhome · 20/05/2024 21:10

I think you might have misunderstood who I was mocking here.

HelenHen · 20/05/2024 21:09

25milesfromhome · 20/05/2024 21:08

You're not.

Just you?

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You're not.

HelenHen · 20/05/2024 21:07

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PeasfullPerson · 20/05/2024 21:06

noblegiraffe · 19/05/2024 23:39

I think that all bets are off now that disinformation is massively spread and whipped up by the internet.

I think anyone thinking 'I'm older, therefore wiser, and therefore not going to get sucked in' is probably naive to how vulnerable they are.

I think you’re right that any age can be vulnerable. And I also think that most people believe they could never be sucked in by disinformation, because it’s comforting to believe that.

But I do think that age is one of many factors that can potentially make somebody more vulnerable. Which isn’t the same as saying all young people are more vulnerable than all old people.

25milesfromhome · 20/05/2024 21:06

HelenHen · 20/05/2024 21:04

Starmer is antisemitic. He is using the Jewish people and a very important and emotive term, to rid the party of his political opponents. Its quite blatant.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66753637.amp

Jumped the shark and invoked NotJewish Voice for Labour? Oh dear.

25milesfromhome · 20/05/2024 21:05

HelenHen · 20/05/2024 20:57

What Starmer did: using antisemitism to rid his party of political opponents, was antisemitic in itself. Its unfortunate and embarrassing for him and I'm really sorry that he abused the term in such a way

No, I think the only people 'using antisemitism' in this scenario were the antisemites. Do you think that was antisemitic or 'antisemitic'? I mean, it wasn't either but I'm curious about your categorising system.

HelenHen · 20/05/2024 21:04

Starmer is antisemitic. He is using the Jewish people and a very important and emotive term, to rid the party of his political opponents. Its quite blatant.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66753637.amp

noblegiraffe · 20/05/2024 21:00

That doesn’t even make any sense.

HelenHen · 20/05/2024 20:57

What Starmer did: using antisemitism to rid his party of political opponents, was antisemitic in itself. Its unfortunate and embarrassing for him and I'm really sorry that he abused the term in such a way