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All Eyes on Rafah

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Finallyloggedin · 11/05/2024 19:16

It’s just beyond awful. The idf have dropped leaflets telling Palestinians to move. There is no where for them to go. This is beyond awful. More children will be blown apart, more families destroyed and all for what? Sick beyond what I ever imagined.

The idf have no plan apart from indiscriminate killing.

https://x.com/qudsnen/status/1789316577482989829?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

https://x.com/kahlissee/status/1789184916670013731?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

https://x.com/drtruthe/status/1789311217259139492?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog - this image is very disturbing. I don’t want to upset anyone. The people who really need to see it are those still defending the actions of Israel. And I can show them thousands more images if they think this is an unfortunate isolated incident. This is what idf WANT to do. It is the purpose of the bombs.

https://x.com/qudsnen/status/1789316577482989829?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

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ConnieCounter · 13/07/2024 15:33

I don't have the energy to be honest. I'd be here all day. Still jarring to read such nonsense though.

Auvergne63 · 13/07/2024 15:30

ConnieCounter · 13/07/2024 15:26

This post contains so much offensive and dangerous disinformation I don't even know where to start.

Don't bother. There is not point.

ConnieCounter · 13/07/2024 15:26

UnashamedSlattern · 13/07/2024 15:21

There is no way the location in the video of the alleged ‘massacre’ site is the same location as the hit on Deif’s compound!

Do I believe there is a lot of lying, manipulation, misinformation and propaganda going on. Yes.

Do I believe that Hamas kills and bombs its own people to blame it on Israel. Yes.

Do I believe Hamas deliberately locates legitimate targets in and among civilians. Yes.

Do I believe Hamas and Palestinian doctors and journalists like those who held civilian Israeli hostage in their own homes. No.

Shockingly there is proof of doctoring and faking videos and pictures the like of which has never seen before in any other conflict, freely available all over the internet like the one on Twitter just now of apparently a 15 year old Palestinian girl surrounded by Israeli settlers who had just shot and killed her when she had actually just stabbed an Israeli police officer in the neck, wasn’t shot and had been released from prison in 2023. Pictures was from 2015.

Where do you think term ‘Pallywood’ comes from?

If there is a choice between believing a terrorist entity capable of the atrocities of Oct 7th and the atrocities it’s perpetrated on in its own people, and the army of a democratic country, it’s a no brainer really. I just need to engage my brain. More people should try it.

This post contains so much offensive and dangerous disinformation I don't even know where to start.

Auvergne63 · 13/07/2024 15:24

UnashamedSlattern · 13/07/2024 14:10

Not what happened. Look at the aerial photographs.

https://x.com/IDF/status/1812093008319267038

It is shocking but unsurprising that the main players on these threads still lap up Hamas lies.

I am getting tired of being accused of "lapping up Hamas lies".
I have eyes. ears and a critical mind. I read sources on this conflict in French and English, from sources that are acknowledged to be reputable.
I could accuse you of "lapping the Israeli government lies and propaganda". I won't insult your intelligence though.
Could you, please, expand on who the main players are?

UnashamedSlattern · 13/07/2024 15:21

AhNowTed · 13/07/2024 14:29

BBC: videos from the area show smouldering wreckage and bloodied casualties being loaded onto stretchers. People can be seen trying desperately to pick through the rubble of a large crater with their hands.

One of the doctors at a hospital dealing with the aftermath of the attack has told the BBC it is “one of the black days”.

Speaking to Newshour on the BBC World Service, Dr Mohammed Abu Rayya said the majority of cases coming in were dead, with others suffering from multiple shrapnel wounds.

He said it was like being in "hell", adding that many of the casualties were civilians, notably women and children.

Footage from the nearby Kuwait field hospital showed scenes of chaos with patients being treated on the floor.

The Nasser medical complex in Khan Younis is "overwhelmed" and no longer able to function, said British charity Medical Aid for Palestinians (MAP).

But sure, everyone is lying including the BBC and a British charity. FFS!

There is no way the location in the video of the alleged ‘massacre’ site is the same location as the hit on Deif’s compound!

Do I believe there is a lot of lying, manipulation, misinformation and propaganda going on. Yes.

Do I believe that Hamas kills and bombs its own people to blame it on Israel. Yes.

Do I believe Hamas deliberately locates legitimate targets in and among civilians. Yes.

Do I believe Hamas and Palestinian doctors and journalists like those who held civilian Israeli hostage in their own homes. No.

Shockingly there is proof of doctoring and faking videos and pictures the like of which has never seen before in any other conflict, freely available all over the internet like the one on Twitter just now of apparently a 15 year old Palestinian girl surrounded by Israeli settlers who had just shot and killed her when she had actually just stabbed an Israeli police officer in the neck, wasn’t shot and had been released from prison in 2023. Pictures was from 2015.

Where do you think term ‘Pallywood’ comes from?

If there is a choice between believing a terrorist entity capable of the atrocities of Oct 7th and the atrocities it’s perpetrated on in its own people, and the army of a democratic country, it’s a no brainer really. I just need to engage my brain. More people should try it.

LiterallyOnFire · 13/07/2024 15:10

anotherlevel · 13/07/2024 14:17

@UnashamedSlattern If the IDF knew there were senior Hamas members plus more there, were they not able to be a bit more clinical with their approach and avoid civilian deaths?

I'm by no means an expert on warfare but it does seem to me that the US, for example, rack up so called "friendly fire" & "collateral damage" deaths in huge numbers all over the shop and lie determinedly about it. Maybe we just don't usually get a realistic idea of how messy war is.

I'm sure there are lots of other moving parts, too.

AhNowTed · 13/07/2024 15:06

That IDF 'before and after' looks like something I'd knock up on PowerPoint.

ConnieCounter · 13/07/2024 15:05

UnashamedSlattern · 13/07/2024 14:10

Not what happened. Look at the aerial photographs.

https://x.com/IDF/status/1812093008319267038

It is shocking but unsurprising that the main players on these threads still lap up Hamas lies.

I'm amazed people still "lap up" the IDF's bullshit. All they do is lie.

anotherlevel · 13/07/2024 14:36

The IDF are so honest we have no reason to not believe them.

AhNowTed · 13/07/2024 14:29

BBC: videos from the area show smouldering wreckage and bloodied casualties being loaded onto stretchers. People can be seen trying desperately to pick through the rubble of a large crater with their hands.

One of the doctors at a hospital dealing with the aftermath of the attack has told the BBC it is “one of the black days”.

Speaking to Newshour on the BBC World Service, Dr Mohammed Abu Rayya said the majority of cases coming in were dead, with others suffering from multiple shrapnel wounds.

He said it was like being in "hell", adding that many of the casualties were civilians, notably women and children.

Footage from the nearby Kuwait field hospital showed scenes of chaos with patients being treated on the floor.

The Nasser medical complex in Khan Younis is "overwhelmed" and no longer able to function, said British charity Medical Aid for Palestinians (MAP).

But sure, everyone is lying including the BBC and a British charity. FFS!

anotherlevel · 13/07/2024 14:17

@UnashamedSlattern If the IDF knew there were senior Hamas members plus more there, were they not able to be a bit more clinical with their approach and avoid civilian deaths?

UnashamedSlattern · 13/07/2024 14:10

anotherlevel · 13/07/2024 13:51

Never heard anything truer than "it is impossible to exaggerate the level of criminality immorality and crass, murderous stupidity that come together in the massacre Israel carried out in Al-Mawasi this morning."

Not what happened. Look at the aerial photographs.

https://x.com/IDF/status/1812093008319267038

It is shocking but unsurprising that the main players on these threads still lap up Hamas lies.

x.com

https://x.com/IDF/status/1812093008319267038

anotherlevel · 13/07/2024 13:51

AhNowTed · 13/07/2024 13:19

1/ It is impossible to exaggerate the level of criminality, immorality and crass, murderous stupidity that come together in the massacre Israel carried out in Al-Mawasi this morning. Criminality: Israel used wildly disproportionate force assassinate two people.

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x.com/ori_goldberg/status/1812089028751049181?s=46&t=tm415yZZZz0e-dE263leqA

Never heard anything truer than "it is impossible to exaggerate the level of criminality immorality and crass, murderous stupidity that come together in the massacre Israel carried out in Al-Mawasi this morning."

AhNowTed · 13/07/2024 13:44

Designated a "safe zone" by Israel.

Then bombed.

It goes without saying, how can this be justified. But those cries fall on deaf ears and feel utterly depressingly pointless.

AhNowTed · 13/07/2024 13:19

1/ It is impossible to exaggerate the level of criminality, immorality and crass, murderous stupidity that come together in the massacre Israel carried out in Al-Mawasi this morning. Criminality: Israel used wildly disproportionate force assassinate two people.

Thread.

x.com/ori_goldberg/status/1812089028751049181?s=46&t=tm415yZZZz0e-dE263leqA

anotherlevel · 13/07/2024 12:26

Finallyloggedin · 13/07/2024 12:23

Just when we think things can’t get more evil, they do.

I think at this point we shouldn't expect anything less than evil or worse to happen. It's been atrocity after atrocity.

anotherlevel · 13/07/2024 12:24

Upsetting and graphic scenes coming out of the West of Khan Younis. Also reporting over 100 killed.

www.instagram.com/reel/C9W9DwlAkUj/?igsh=MXU1b3g3cWpmOXp5ZQ==

Finallyloggedin · 13/07/2024 12:23

Just when we think things can’t get more evil, they do.

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anotherlevel · 13/07/2024 12:09

Absolutely horrific scenes coming out. My heart aches and aches for them. My brain cannot comprehend how anyone can justify this.

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ConnieCounter · 13/07/2024 11:08

Absolutely horrendous scenes. They're barbarians.