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Finallyloggedin · 11/05/2024 19:16

It’s just beyond awful. The idf have dropped leaflets telling Palestinians to move. There is no where for them to go. This is beyond awful. More children will be blown apart, more families destroyed and all for what? Sick beyond what I ever imagined.

The idf have no plan apart from indiscriminate killing.

https://x.com/qudsnen/status/1789316577482989829?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

https://x.com/kahlissee/status/1789184916670013731?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

https://x.com/drtruthe/status/1789311217259139492?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog - this image is very disturbing. I don’t want to upset anyone. The people who really need to see it are those still defending the actions of Israel. And I can show them thousands more images if they think this is an unfortunate isolated incident. This is what idf WANT to do. It is the purpose of the bombs.

https://x.com/qudsnen/status/1789316577482989829?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

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threeoldbicycles · 24/05/2024 19:03

ConnieCounter · 24/05/2024 19:01

I know what the term means.

Then stop berating me for using it correctly.

ConnieCounter · 24/05/2024 19:01

threeoldbicycles · 24/05/2024 19:00

It's obvious you've never been in the military and therefore do not understand the meaning of "collateral damage."

Collateral damage refers to unintended harm or injury caused by a specific action or event. Specifically, it often refers to civilian casualties resulting from military operations.

For example, during armed conflicts, civilians who are not directly targeted may suffer injuries or death due to the impact of military actions.

The term highlights the unintended consequences that can occur when attempting to achieve a particular goal or objective, especially in situations where the primary target is not civilians.

In essence, collateral damage underscores the complexity and ethical challenges associated with warfare and other high-risk activities

I know what the term means.

threeoldbicycles · 24/05/2024 19:00

ConnieCounter · 24/05/2024 18:51

Well I know you agree 🙄

You can't just ignore the tens of thousands of dead civilians. I know you don't care about them, you said they were "collateral damage" which speaks volumes. But I think they're important.

It's obvious you've never been in the military and therefore do not understand the meaning of "collateral damage."

Collateral damage refers to unintended harm or injury caused by a specific action or event. Specifically, it often refers to civilian casualties resulting from military operations.

For example, during armed conflicts, civilians who are not directly targeted may suffer injuries or death due to the impact of military actions.

The term highlights the unintended consequences that can occur when attempting to achieve a particular goal or objective, especially in situations where the primary target is not civilians.

In essence, collateral damage underscores the complexity and ethical challenges associated with warfare and other high-risk activities

ConnieCounter · 24/05/2024 18:51

threeoldbicycles · 24/05/2024 18:49

I don't think they are saying that at all.

They are saying that Hamas should pay for their crimes and I agree,

Well I know you agree 🙄

You can't just ignore the tens of thousands of dead civilians. I know you don't care about them, you said they were "collateral damage" which speaks volumes. But I think they're important.

threeoldbicycles · 24/05/2024 18:49

ConnieCounter · 24/05/2024 18:48

I'm not suggesting it's OK that they were killed though. That poster is saying that Israel "has the right" to kill tens of thousands of civilians. Unbelievable.

I don't think they are saying that at all.

They are saying that Hamas should pay for their crimes and I agree,

ConnieCounter · 24/05/2024 18:48

threeoldbicycles · 24/05/2024 18:46

@ConnieCounter "What did the 15000 dead children do to deserve this?"

What did 1,200 innocent Israeli men. women & children deserve to be killed after being burned, tortured, raped and humiliated ??

I'm not suggesting it's OK that they were killed though. That poster is saying that Israel "has the right" to kill tens of thousands of civilians. Unbelievable.

threeoldbicycles · 24/05/2024 18:46

@ConnieCounter "What did the 15000 dead children do to deserve this?"

What did 1,200 innocent Israeli men. women & children deserve to be killed after being burned, tortured, raped and humiliated ??

Liv999 · 24/05/2024 18:46

SammyScrounge · 24/05/2024 18:33

We have seen what Hamas did in October. We have seen what they are doing to the.female hostages right now
Israel is making them pay for their crimes. They have the right.

In your opinion how long do you think innocent Palestinian men women and children should be made "pay for their crimes"? Until they're completely eradicated?Would that be good enough for you?

ConnieCounter · 24/05/2024 18:36

SammyScrounge · 24/05/2024 18:33

We have seen what Hamas did in October. We have seen what they are doing to the.female hostages right now
Israel is making them pay for their crimes. They have the right.

What did the 15000 dead children do to deserve this? Your post is disgusting.

SammyScrounge · 24/05/2024 18:33

Finallyloggedin · 11/05/2024 19:16

It’s just beyond awful. The idf have dropped leaflets telling Palestinians to move. There is no where for them to go. This is beyond awful. More children will be blown apart, more families destroyed and all for what? Sick beyond what I ever imagined.

The idf have no plan apart from indiscriminate killing.

https://x.com/qudsnen/status/1789316577482989829?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

https://x.com/kahlissee/status/1789184916670013731?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

https://x.com/drtruthe/status/1789311217259139492?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog - this image is very disturbing. I don’t want to upset anyone. The people who really need to see it are those still defending the actions of Israel. And I can show them thousands more images if they think this is an unfortunate isolated incident. This is what idf WANT to do. It is the purpose of the bombs.

We have seen what Hamas did in October. We have seen what they are doing to the.female hostages right now
Israel is making them pay for their crimes. They have the right.

Liv999 · 24/05/2024 18:22

threeoldbicycles · 24/05/2024 18:12

I suggest you look up the definition of "Yellow Journalism" as well.

I suggest you take your blinkers off

Liv999 · 24/05/2024 18:20

threeoldbicycles · 24/05/2024 18:09

So what's your solution?

What's yours? Bomb the shit out of Gaza for the next 20 years? I'm not a politician I don't know what the solution is, but there has to be a cessation of violence first of all on both sides, nothing will work until that happens, the Americans played a huge role in the peace process in Northern Ireland, I know Hamas probably wouldn't want to engage in talks with them, but perhaps some other country or countries? What's happening now is barbaric and has to stop

mactire · 24/05/2024 18:15

threeoldbicycles · 24/05/2024 18:12

Just look up the definition of "Yellow Journalism".

Oh, so posting pictures of what is happening on the ground is exaggerating now? Documenting Israeli brutality for the world to see is wrong?

Try a new strategy to shutdown criticism of Israel, this one isn’t working.

threeoldbicycles · 24/05/2024 18:12

Liv999 · 24/05/2024 18:11

It's immoral but unfortunately it's what's happening right now to innocent Palestinians

I suggest you look up the definition of "Yellow Journalism" as well.

threeoldbicycles · 24/05/2024 18:12

mactire · 24/05/2024 18:09

Absolutely incredible that Palestinians and Palestinian allies are now being blamed for posting pictures of the horrors Israel are subjecting them to. Guess some people just don’t want light shone on what is being done by the most moral army in the world.

Just look up the definition of "Yellow Journalism".

Liv999 · 24/05/2024 18:11

threeoldbicycles · 24/05/2024 18:08

It not valid for anything, it's Yellow Journalism and it's immoral.

It's immoral but unfortunately it's what's happening right now to innocent Palestinians

threeoldbicycles · 24/05/2024 18:09

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So what's your solution?

mactire · 24/05/2024 18:09

Absolutely incredible that Palestinians and Palestinian allies are now being blamed for posting pictures of the horrors Israel are subjecting them to. Guess some people just don’t want light shone on what is being done by the most moral army in the world.

threeoldbicycles · 24/05/2024 18:08

Auvergne63 · 24/05/2024 17:56

Well I want to hear them. That's why I asked you too.
I am a mother and a grandmother and yes, it is upsetting but it is needed to bear witness to the horrors Palestinian mothers are going through. This is also valid for the victims of 07/10.

It not valid for anything, it's Yellow Journalism and it's immoral.

Liv999 · 24/05/2024 18:06

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Scirocco · 24/05/2024 18:02

threeoldbicycles · 24/05/2024 17:51

Why post counter arguments because no-one wants to hear any?

They'd sooner post pictures of dead children just to upset mothers.

If you're upset looking at the pictures, just imagine how the mothers of those children might feel.

ConnieCounter · 24/05/2024 17:59

threeoldbicycles · 24/05/2024 17:08

We all know that Hamas doesn't give accurate figures for casualties.

They are a terrorist group remember?

Yes, using civilians as 'human shields' is disgusting.

You must be furious at the IDF if the use of human shields disgusts you. I have a funny feeling it's OK when they do it though.

And yes, the use of the term "collateral damage" and your general attitude towards Palestinians on this thread is awful.

Auvergne63 · 24/05/2024 17:56

threeoldbicycles · 24/05/2024 17:51

Why post counter arguments because no-one wants to hear any?

They'd sooner post pictures of dead children just to upset mothers.

Well I want to hear them. That's why I asked you too.
I am a mother and a grandmother and yes, it is upsetting but it is needed to bear witness to the horrors Palestinian mothers are going through. This is also valid for the victims of 07/10.

threeoldbicycles · 24/05/2024 17:51

Auvergne63 · 24/05/2024 17:43

Maybe, instead of accusing people of being antisemitic, you could post counter arguments?

Why post counter arguments because no-one wants to hear any?

They'd sooner post pictures of dead children just to upset mothers.

threeoldbicycles · 24/05/2024 17:50

Liv999 · 24/05/2024 17:45

Oh so maybe it wasn't 13,000 innocent children slaughtered, maybe it was 12,000 or even 11,000, would that make it any better? The innocent children murdered by Hamas in the Oct 7th attack were the victims of a brutal terrorist attack but the children murdered by Israeli forces are "collateral damage", it's all murder, no justification for ANY of it

Can you think of a better way to get rid of Hamas?

I'm sure the IDF would love to hear it.