Why aren’t the people protesting against Israel calling for Hamas to disarm and disband?

I am grateful to @Tripeandonions for the links. I have tried to do my own research but hard to find unbiased sources as you say and all sources have their biases but the more different perspectives (from informed sources not people who get all their information from tik tok or msm) the better.

Well, I'm afraid i can't help you any more.

I can only producer the articles that are available on the internet as I'm not a scholar of ME history.

Im aware of that, thanks ever so; what I was objecting to was the proferring of a biased article to another poster who had expressed an interest in understanding the facts. That’s not cricket.

I'm still not sure what info you want but please free free to Google yourself. 🙂

Something that looked like it was trying to weigh differing views and perspectives rather than accept one uncritically would be a start

So I can't see how there will be a palestine state?

So that's you and me both baffled.

All I can say is that it would have to be created with input from the various protagonists with regard to International Law.

You;ll be hard-pressed to find an "unbiased" account in the current conflict but try this -
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/02/21/why-arab-states-wont-support-palestinians-qa-00142277

or this -

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/why-egypt-and-other-arab-countries-refuse-to-accept-palestinian-refugees-from-gaza/ar-AA1jk6RR

I'm not sure what you would accept as "unbiased" ?

This is hardly an unbiased account.

This is the new anti semitic trope that’s getting going, hot on the heels of October 7th denial, and holocaust denial before that.
its a deeply weird mindset.

Oh thanks @Tripeandonionsthat is helpful . It is my understanding that Palestinians were offered 50% + of the land after the war but refused to share with Israel. Then several surrounding states waged war on Israel and lost. So as happens in all winners in wars Israel increased their territory. So I can't see how there will be a palestine state?

This is a bit out of date but may answer your question -

https://apnews.com/article/palestinian-jordan-egypt-israel-refugee-502c06d004767d4b64848d878b66bd3d

Evidence please.

I agree

Edited to add that innocent people are suffering and both the Israeli and Hamas government are responsible . There are just endless circular arguments on these threads .

Millions of people were displaced after the war including Jewish people from Middle Eastern countries. I wonder why other Arab countries have not offered displaced people from that region a home? (Just as millions of others had to move elsewhere).

I don’t see this war as a conflict between ‘victim’ and ‘oppressor’. I’m sure there is fault with the IDF, but equally I don’t think all the deaths are the ‘fault’ of the Israelis.

Pointing out that the Palestinian leadership may be responsible for some of the carnage due to the methods they use is just rational.

That’s a fair point - it can be read a lot of ways. I suppose I read it that people felt oppressed under British rule and felt that there was no alternative to violence during the troubles. Not that they justify everything the IRA did.

I’m Irish so I do fully understand the history.

My point was in response to someone saying the Palestinians support Hamas. The Northern Ireland situation is different but there are some lessons from the peace process in the north nonetheless. Oppression and inequality leads to violent groups being formed.

Because a thousand wrongs don’t make a right.

Why are people so invested in this conflict? They're both vile.

Israeli forcibly removed Palestinians from their homes in 1947 or to use your terminology invaded the Palestinians in 1947.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba#:~:text=The%20roots%20of%20the%20Nakba,few%20Palestinian%20Arabs%20as%20possible.

Israel have responded, after October 7th, in a way that has caused the loss of many thousand civilian lives. About half of the population of Gaza was under 18; it was obvious that many of these would be children.

The governments of the West (especially the US) certainly don't want the collapse of the state of Israel, which is one of Hamas' key objectives and generally they have been supportive of Israel, and acknowledged that any state would want to take action after the murders, rapes and hostage-taking etc.

However, Netanyahu has not been following advice from the US, especially in invading Rafah, with the potential for many more civilian deaths there.

Read what I put, in no way am I saying Israel does not kill people in the West Bank, nor the West Bank kill Israelis, but Hamas in Gaza are different to to Palestinians in the West Bank and while they hold power in Gaza, nothing can change

Because OlderGlaswegian , More people are now aware that Palestinians have been living under a brutal occupation, where the occupier is now facing genicide charges.

Is it too simple to wonder why the Palestinians don't force an election, and to not vote for hammas in that election ?

Is it too simple to wonder why there are protests re Israel are performing at Eurovision, when it was Hammas that invaded where the Israelis were living, killing them and taking hostages.

When Russia invaded Ukraine, the ' world ' / ' everyone ' was on the Ukraine's side, why isn't the ' world ' / ' everyone ' on Israel's side

Israeli/British hostage killed hours after Hamas released a video of him alive.

And people support these evil creatures.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13407165/Hamas-announce-British-Israeli-hostage-killed-Gaza-just-hours-raising-familys-hopes-releasing-video-alive.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&ito=social-twitter_mailonline